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July 02, 2013, 07:06:40 PM
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ok, i have purchased some space in the cloud to secure the network with a main node. if anyone knows how to set up/run this from ssh, please pm me. if you help me get it running i will pay you 2,500 NAN.

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July 02, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
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Going to run a quick lotto.  Not many people have nanotokens yet so we'll see how it goes.

http://lotto.coinworld.us/test/

Notice the test in the URL this isn't on the main page. We'll draw in just a little under 6 hours if anyone wants to play.

i will put up 5,000 for the lottery
To get in or have it in the main page ?

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July 02, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
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Going to run a quick lotto.  Not many people have nanotokens yet so we'll see how it goes.

http://lotto.coinworld.us/test/

Notice the test in the URL this isn't on the main page. We'll draw in just a little under 6 hours if anyone wants to play.

i will put up 5,000 for the lottery
To get in or have it in the main page ?
no, i'm just putting the money in for the lottery, i do not wish to enter it myself.

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July 02, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
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Going to run a quick lotto.  Not many people have nanotokens yet so we'll see how it goes.

http://lotto.coinworld.us/test/

Notice the test in the URL this isn't on the main page. We'll draw in just a little under 6 hours if anyone wants to play.

i will put up 5,000 for the lottery
To get in or have it in the main page ?
no, i'm just putting the money in for the lottery, i do not wish to enter it myself.

Awesome, communicate with the lottery organizer and get the price there ASAP. Will make the pool a LOT bigger Smiley
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July 02, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
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I've purchased 11 Tickets...last of the big spenders lol   Wink Looks like a nice bit of fun.....waiting for the confirms........ Grin
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July 02, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
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r3wt did indeed visit the lotto:



Click the image to go play.

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July 02, 2013, 08:23:30 PM
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r3wt did indeed visit the lotto:



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Did you really take the 500 'rake' from the money OP GAVE to the lottery?
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July 02, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
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we really do, and at this time I can't change it without tearing the prize/drawing logic apart.

Once the site is all consolidated and running smoothly I may take a look at handling donations and promos separately. The lottery script is fairly straightforward at the moment, and tracking these items outside of existing logic will add more to the lotto than the entire sum of the drawing code at this time. It's not something that's going to come online in the next few hours.

Coin devs and promoters wanting to donate was not part of our original plan. It's been brought up to me several times, and in each case when I give out an address it's made clear to them what will happen.

This lottery today is not for a bounty and may or not be made into a permanent part of the site.  I made several changes to the scripts after the drawing Sunday and wanted to run the script for something "small". r3wt liked the promo and decided to juice the pot.

So now it's not small - but that's how it works.

I plan to add a donations page to all of the lotteries, and it will be clearly explained there as well.
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July 02, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
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where did everyone go lol

http://coinworld.us:8884

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July 02, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
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where did everyone go lol

http://coinworld.us:8884

Good question.... coin confirms are so slooooowwwww .... poor little pool
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July 02, 2013, 09:09:52 PM
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Cool coin, you can send NaN without having to pay the fee.
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July 02, 2013, 09:15:52 PM
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we really do, and at this time I can't change it without tearing the prize/drawing logic apart.

Once the site is all consolidated and running smoothly I may take a look at handling donations and promos separately. The lottery script is fairly straightforward at the moment, and tracking these items outside of existing logic will add more to the lotto than the entire sum of the drawing code at this time. It's not something that's going to come online in the next few hours.

Coin devs and promoters wanting to donate was not part of our original plan. It's been brought up to me several times, and in each case when I give out an address it's made clear to them what will happen.

This lottery today is not for a bounty and may or not be made into a permanent part of the site.  I made several changes to the scripts after the drawing Sunday and wanted to run the script for something "small". r3wt liked the promo and decided to juice the pot.

So now it's not small - but that's how it works.

I plan to add a donations page to all of the lotteries, and it will be clearly explained there as well.

No worries,
Honestly you are worth the coins for setting it up. Why haven't 'reservations' updated with ticket purchases? Or am I looking at the wrong thing?
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July 02, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
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Why haven't 'reservations' updated with ticket purchases? Or am I looking at the wrong thing?

"Reservations" is the amount of people who have entered. So right now there are 7 people who have entered tickets into the lotto.

I don't think it displays anywhere the amount of individual tickets have been purchased, but you can assume there's at least 4769.

FTR: Before I entered the prize was 14.something, I assume there was maybe 15 tickets. Then I added 50 and it looks like r3wt threw in 5000. That's 5065 I know of.

Edit: Almost forgot, you can see the exact amount of tickets after the draw is over on the history page. The first round had 15 tickets: http://lotto.coinworld.us/test/history.php

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July 02, 2013, 10:33:50 PM
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Hey sorry I was trying to post when the forum went down and then I got distracted.  HEre's what I had written:

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No worries,
Honestly you are worth the coins for setting it up. Why haven't 'reservations' updated with ticket purchases? Or am I looking at the wrong thing?

This part is different for sure.

Reservations are the number of people that have submitted prize addresses (and received reservation addresses) to the drawing.

Each reservation address will have tickets calculated for it, according to the deposits sent to that address, at drawing time.

Here's a breakdown:

When a user submits a payment address on the front page, a reservation address is created, and paired with that payment address in the database.

- That reservation address can accept payments until the drawing. In fact, you can send payments to that reservation address from any other payment address, all of the tickets created at drawing time will be counted towards the same payout address that was originally used to generate the reservation.

There are a couple of potential uses for this.  First of all if you can get their reservation address (or just create one using their account) you can buy tickets for friends or other people - you can pass out your own reservation address in hopes that others will buy you tickets.

An individual (let's say a coin foundation or dev) could create a reservation and then ask supporters to buy tickets in hopes of receiving the jackpot.

Who knows what people will come up with.

Does that part make sense?

So the number of reservations on the page tells you how many players (payout addresses) are trying for the pot.

It doesn't tell you about the number of tickets that each reservation has.

Also, back with the donations.  The donations are not associated with a reservation or any tickets. The size of the prize pool is disconnected from the number of reservations or the number of tickets.

So, when the drawing comes, the reservation addresses are scanned for deposits. Only the reservation addresses not donation addresses.
The deposits that have made at least one confirmation into the reservation accounts are divided by the ticket price into a number of tickets for that particular reservation.

When all reservations have had their deposits counted, the drawing for 5 winners is performed against the list of tickets in the order of 1st, 2nd etc..

After the tickets have been drawn, the script checks the specific account for this drawing in the wallet.

This balance should contain all deposits to correct reservation addresses (ticket sales).  It should also contain any donations that were received for this drawing. It may contain other seed funds from us - and there may be odds and ends, I have people sending fractional coins in their deposits.  These fractional coins do not result in an additional ticket (floor not round) but they do get divided in and distributed amongst the winners.

So now we have our winners and our total revenues for this drawing.  

Balance * .9 = prize fund.
Balance * .09 = "The Rake"

The remaining .01 sits around in the general wallet balance until it's either large enough for us to split manually, or eaten by TX fees. I think there has to be a hedge before we write a sendmany with 5 outs and 3k inputs or something crazy.

So, without some manual wallet prowling and a bit of math, I don't even know how many tickets are actually being sold once I have given out a donation address or things vary from 1/1 with prize pool and reservations.


I can simulate the drawing logic until it produces a ticket count, but so far I've considered doing this realtime to be a little resource intensive.

You never know how many tickets are sold in a gov'mint lotto anyways, heh.

Sorry for the long ramble.  I'm trying to get this all sorted and clarified so that I can write some good copy for the site and it helps me to explain it a few times.

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Why haven't 'reservations' updated with ticket purchases? Or am I looking at the wrong thing?

"Reservations" is the amount of people who have entered. So right now there are 7 people who have entered tickets into the lotto.

I don't think it displays anywhere the amount of individual tickets have been purchased, but you can assume there's at least 4769.

FTR: Before I entered the prize was 14.something, I assume there was maybe 15 tickets. Then I added 50 and it looks like r3wt threw in 5000. That's 5065 I know of.

Edit: Almost forgot, you can see the exact amount of tickets after the draw is over on the history page. The first round had 15 tickets: http://lotto.coinworld.us/test/history.php

Yeah you've got it basically right, the breakdown above should clarify a little. It looks like someone may have tossed in some odd amounts just to see what happens.

Thee amount shown in the prize banner is (deposits + donations (5005 NAN I know of) * .9)
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July 02, 2013, 10:41:47 PM
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Blockexplorer should be working fine now cat you can test it.updated the db

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July 02, 2013, 10:57:24 PM
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OK this maybe getting close to threadjacking but a bump for nanotoken and for those watching I went in the wallet and pulled the lotto account balance.

5804.55555555 NAN.

This * .9 = 5224.09999999 shown currently in the prize banner.

this minus donation and seed money = 799.55555555 tickets purchased.

So there are 799 tickets divided in a currently unknown fashion between 7 addresses trying for a 5224.09999999 prize.

Prize is divided into 5 portions of 50%, 20%, 10%, 10%, 10%.

That's 100% of the prize fund. Which is 90% of deposits.  Which is not related directly to ticket sales.

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EDIT Which changed by the time i posted.



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July 02, 2013, 11:11:57 PM
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Blockexplorer should be working fine now cat you can test it.updated the db

excellent work MobGod. this is exactly why i reserved so many bounties. The people who put the work in to create services for these coins are the ones who earn their keep. now its time for us to straighten out the block reward and make the miners happy. then maybe we can call it a success.

I'd like to thank everyone who has helped, participated, influenced, and helped guide me into bringing NanoTokens from a dream to a reality. I will continue to do my best to make the coin the best it can be.

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July 03, 2013, 01:14:37 AM
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the drawing went on schedule and here's where the results will be for the next day or so:

http://lotto.coinworld.us/test/history.php?draw=2

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July 03, 2013, 01:25:07 AM
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Wow constant payouts seems like your really earning something till you realize these still have no value. Hope something good happens with NanoTokens.
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July 03, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
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Here's a logo I made!



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