Why restrict newbs?

[kokjo]

Useless countermeasure.
With such easy captha protection spammers can easily create thousands of accounts, if they want.

cool! then do it!

[Trillium]

I enjoy my newbie sub-forum enslavement. I have a collar and these shiney shackles to prove it ^_^

[alwi]

1. Spam.
2. Discourage the same question being asked over and over.
3. They hate me.
4. I am so alone  
5. ?? ?? ?? ??
6. Profit baseball-bat in face

LOL

[JamesIV]

1. Spam.
2. Discourage the same question being asked over and over.
3. They hate me.
4. I am so alone  
5. ?? ?? ?? ??
6. Profit baseball-bat in face

LOL

I told you they hate me

[ePoint System]

What needs to happen for the restriction to post to other topics to be lifted?

[JamesIV]

What needs to happen for the restriction to post to other topics to be lifted?

A prime example for the need of restrictions.

5 post and to be on the forum for 4 hours.

[ePoint System]

What needs to happen for the restriction to post to other topics to be lifted?

A prime example for the need of restrictions.

5 post and to be on the forum for 4 hours.

To be on the forum AFTER the fifth post or after the first post or in total? Also, how does my question exemplify the need for these restrictions?

[MRKLYE]

I think it is to prevent noobs and smpammers from cloggin' up the forums.. That is my theory anyways.

[ePoint System]

I think it is to prevent noobs and smpammers from cloggin' up the forums.. That is my theory anyways.

Sure, but it would be nice to define the terms clearly. It would also be nice to have a possibility to pay some BTC in order for these restrictions to be lifted with immediate effect.

[jackjack]

Useless countermeasure.
With such easy captha protection spammers can easily create thousands of accounts, if they want.
Instead of annoying 4 hours post restriction better to create 1 hour delay between posts.
Know, where are a lot of newbies in world, but I'm reading this forum for a months before one reply in very important topic and had waited for 4 hours...

Useless?
Surely you wasn't there when it was decided...

[acs26]

I think it is to prevent noobs and smpammers from cloggin' up the forums.. That is my theory anyways.

Sure, but it would be nice to define the terms clearly. It would also be nice to have a possibility to pay some BTC in order for these restrictions to be lifted with immediate effect.

Think about this:

The forums gets about 100-1,000 people per week. Having all of them post on one day would be chaotic. Now think about paying. Think about paying .01BTC to get out of Newbie Mode. Now think about that amount increasing per month because of demand. PEOPLE BE PAYIN DAT .12. The forum would be rich. Now think about how much the donation groups would be. Wanna pay 20BTC for the current 10BTC donation package?

Not to mention, that when people scam they'd feel they're entitled to not getting banned, or having a scammer-tag. So of course that would be abusing that method. Not to mention they'd probably be able to lift the scammer-tag by money.

[Peter Lambert]

Can't figure out what is their consideration of doing this. No one answer questions from Newbie at all. Why they are so sure newbie must not raise good questions and have to be kept prison here...

I answer questions from newbies sometimes. The problem is that very few people actually look for the answer themselves, so we get many, many threads on the same topic, and it feels repetative to answer the same questions over and over and over again. Many times there is even a thread on the same topic on the first page of the section they post in. Like this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244803.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177136.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245409.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244728.0

OK, so some of those are more relevant than others, but I just went through the first couple pages of 'Newbies'

Sure, but it would be nice to define the terms clearly. It would also be nice to have a possibility to pay some BTC in order for these restrictions to be lifted with immediate effect.

The forums gets about 100-1,000 people per week. Having all of them post on one day would be chaotic. Now think about paying. Think about paying .01BTC to get out of Newbie Mode. Now think about that amount increasing per month because of demand. PEOPLE BE PAYIN DAT .12. The forum would be rich. Now think about how much the donation groups would be. Wanna pay 20BTC for the current 10BTC donation package?

The forum already has way more money than they know what to do with, they do not need to add a payment to join.

[jeremiel]

SPAM SPAM  and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts.  Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people.  "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan."  Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

[ePoint System]

SPAM SPAM  and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts.  Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people.  "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan."  Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

That is obvious, but why should that cost be necessarily paid in posts and time? We have a wonderful measure of value here that is transferable. It's called Bitcoin. Why not just use it the way it was meant to be used?

[Peter Lambert]

SPAM SPAM  and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts.  Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people.  "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan."  Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

That is obvious, but why should that cost be necessarily paid in posts and time? We have a wonderful measure of value here that is transferable. It's called Bitcoin. Why not just use it the way it was meant to be used?

You want people to be able to pay money and have a free ride to spamming and scamming? If they do not want to put the time/posts in for getting non-newbie accounts, they can just pay somebody else to go through the time period for them. There are a few people selling accounts, and I am sure you could convince some of the slackers around here to burn some time reading the forum to get out of newbie jail for you. Let the market decide. Hmm ... I have a friend who might be interested in doing that ...

[jeremiel]

SPAM SPAM  and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts.  Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people.  "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan."  Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

That is obvious, but why should that cost be necessarily paid in posts and time? We have a wonderful measure of value here that is transferable. It's called Bitcoin. Why not just use it the way it was meant to be used?

Are you insinuating money equates to freedom of speech?  Or more strictly bitcoin wallet equals freedom speech and the only freedom of speech acceptable?

[ePoint System]

SPAM SPAM  and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts.  Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people.  "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan."  Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

That is obvious, but why should that cost be necessarily paid in posts and time? We have a wonderful measure of value here that is transferable. It's called Bitcoin. Why not just use it the way it was meant to be used?

Are you insinuating money equates to freedom of speech?  Or more strictly bitcoin wallet equals freedom speech and the only freedom of speech acceptable?

No. I am saying that what can be done informally anyway should be possible formally. This is net inefficiency.

[2G2BT]

i just hit 4 hours! yay! my registration date was... April 25th! w00t! pretty sure i broke some records there. ;P

not sure if anyone is ever gonna break mine  - - - - > July 2011 and only just got that keyboard fixed   

[oldgermanfreak]

I'm reading in this Forum for hours and now i have a question in a specifig thread..
and now i'm here  because i can't post anywhere else 

so all i have do do is write a post in the newbie-area and wait almost 4 hours to place my question at the right place?
or should i do more useless postings here do get the rights to post in other threads?


Sorry, for that dump question, but i won't read more useless threads 

[Inedible]

Theres good reason for this rule. It keeps out the hoardes of scammers, and spammers we would get without the restrictions. If your serious about being a member of the forums, 4 hours on the forums and 5 posts shouldnt be a problem.

Haven't you heard? It's now been reduced to ONE post. I suspect even that's too much for some users.