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July 06, 2014, 03:08:00 AM
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Wow a thousand a day? That's called capital controlls and you are totally right to watch out for extreme centralization. This is a potential sign of "fractional reserve" accounting, where only a percentage of the actual currency is actually available to the exchange at any given time. Can we get some kind of rundown on our options? I wouldn't be opposed to officially supporting a well grounded contender or two. Are there any exchange reviews out there? Gathered together? If not.. I sense a development workshop in the making.. At any rate I will be printing up a batch of cold storage paper wallets for impending use.

I may be incorrect as they are being somewhat vague about it, but that is the impression i got from their blog here where they "suggest" verification for users who transfer more then $1k or $20k of value of crypto.  

Question 2:
When you do impose limits, what will be limited?
Answer:
Deposit and Withdrawal amounts and daily/monthly limits.   Trade activity will not be limited.  If you are depositing or withdrawing more than $1k a day or $20k a month worth of cryptocurrencies, then you should go ahead and get the verification process started.  If you meet this criteria, we will also be contacting you directly if you are not verified.

Then again, it could be a sign of regulatory stress. EIther way is not good and a case of why we need to be more distributed.

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July 06, 2014, 03:08:35 AM
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CryptoTown Explained - Goals, Roles and Advantages

Please also see the Reddit post for further discussion and updated post.

CryptoTown On The Ground

Project Goals


  •      Promote adoption of cryptocurrencies as a part of stronger communities
  •      Operate with no single point of failure
  •      Use a decentralized "CryptoMall" approach.
  •      To engage communities with traditional, offline media and 1on1 contact
  •      To use social media to enhance idea persistence and organization
  •      To promote sustainability and self-sufficiency
  •      Utilize Free Open Source Software and Creative Commons licensing
  •      Remain coin neutral while recognizing contribution

Roles & Advantages



The Project:

  •     Produce The Official CryptoTown Guide
  •     Produce other supporting documentation
  •     Open collaboration
  •     Reach out to existing groups and "cryptomalls"
  •     Curate the official set of tools and resources
  •     Collaborate with, but not responsible for, CryptoMall volunteers

CryptoMall (Volunteers):

  •     Completely independent from project
  •     Pioneer and refine methods for adoption of cryptocurrency
  •     Decide which crypto to advocate at their mall
  •     Tailor strategies to situation and goals of the CryptoMall
  •     Sell or provide promotional material to participating businesses
  •     Collaborate with the project to solve problems
  •     Comply with and convey local laws
  •     Coordinate or guide the local trading of crypto

Businesses:

  •     Decide its level of participation
  •     Decide which crypto is ultimately accepted there
  •     Decide to store of sell excess crypto reserves
  •     Decides how to advertise crypto at establishment
  •     Becomes part of a stronger, more self-reliant network
  •     Access to CryptoMall consultants to solve problems
  •     Increase revenue through "cryptotourism"

Coin Communities:

  •     Work with volunteers to improve tool suite including coin specific tools
  •     Facilitate the actual adoption and use of your currency
  •     Display dedication to advancement of cryptocurrencies with material support
  •     An opportunity to pool talent towards common development goals

Individuals:

  •     Start a local CryptoMall
  •     Volunteer at a local CryptoMall
  •     Connect with your local crypto community
  •     Develop software tools based on real world needs
  •     Documentation and Discussion via development workshops
  •     Share information to the project about known tools, methods, and existing projects which are similar or may benefit from collaboration.
  •     Create and share promotional media (generic or coin specific)
  •     A directory to find places that accept crypto
  •     Resources for effective crypto advocacy and adoption

Investors:

  •     Provide business services and advertising
  •     Trade for profit on local exchange
  •     A framework to directly drive demand for cryptocurrencies in general or targeted to a specific one


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July 06, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2014, 09:17:05 PM by BTCat
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Not engaged in votingprocess:
https://poloniex.com/voting (pending approval)
https://www.allcoin.com/vote (pending approval)

Voting active:
https://bter.com/voting
https://www.mintpal.com/voting (once per hour)
https://www.swisscex.com/voting (three per hour)
https://askcoin.net/votes (once per 10 minutes)
https://coinano.com/voting.seam
https://hitbtc.com/vote
https://c-cex.com/?id=vote

Other options not researched yet:

https://www.litebit.eu/
https://anycoindirect.eu/
https://btc-e.com/  Cheesy (asking does not hurt)
https://coinedup.com/
https://www.atomic-trade.com/
http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html
https://agx.io/
https://hashflo.net/
https://www.crypto-trade.com/
https://coin-swap.net
https://prelude.io/
https://alcurex.com (From Finland. Request here and large chance they add it : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=459909.40) Site is a bit slow and low volume.
https://bleutrade.com/
https://cryptonit.net/
https://www.therocktrading.com/
https://justcoin.com/
Here's some more: https://www.cryptonator.com/exchange

Not launched yet:
https://blocktrade.io/
https://cryptorush.in/
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July 06, 2014, 03:31:30 PM
Last edit: July 06, 2014, 04:20:25 PM by papersheepdog
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This is most excellent. I am wondering, should we pick one or 2 out of these to focus on? Let's say Cryptsy went mt gox, what among this list will have the best positioning to replace it? That's the exchange I think we should throw weight behind.

edit: I could see diversity of country/laws as being important, if it is the regulatory stress which is causing this.

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July 06, 2014, 03:51:11 PM
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If you take DOGE/BTC as example in volume (todays):

1. Cryptsy   
2. Mintpal   
3. Bter   
4. Bittrex   
5. Vircurex   
6. Poloniex

BTC-e would be ideal but it is not very likely they will want to list. Perhaps when the CGB marketcap and volume grows. Also their anonymous state does worry people else it could be on 1-3.
Cryptsy is great and I'm glad CGB does well there. Mintpal it's hard to compete with 400 coins willing to list, without a give-away voting campaign we may not get there in the next 2 years. That said, exchanges pop-up like mushrooms and next year there may be another favorite platform. Bter would be great too ofcourse but then you need criteria/tradinghistory to be able to vote, it won't go fast. 
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July 07, 2014, 08:46:46 AM
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Comkort having wallet issues. What's the problem, all seems to be fine.
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July 07, 2014, 12:53:19 PM
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https://askcoin.net/votes is active, if we can vote up early stage it will be 2 months to get listed.
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July 07, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
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MintPal is doing away with the voting system over the next month or so. Might want to get all the votes we can before that happens. (legally of course) Note: I've posted this in several forums for coins I'm invested in.

"Important: Please be aware that we are phasing out the voting system. We have removed the option to make payment votes and will stop taking voting winners from 1st September onwards. The system will continue as normal until then."

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July 08, 2014, 04:34:53 AM
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CGB Core Team Weekly Update - July 8, 2014

Please also see the Reddit post for further discussion.

This post has been put off in favor of some important events which have recently taken place for CGB.  First and foremost, we celebrated CGB's first birthday on the 27th. A fundraising event was held to help pay for a media promotion as part of the marketing strategies of both CGB, and the CryptoTown project. It was a great success with 2 BTC and over 5000 CGB raised and we would like to thank the community for coming together to make this happen (and bahamapascal for doubling donations!). The fruits of this effort have already begun to arrive with an article placed in the CryptoBiz Magazine. They really appreciated the content, and the potential of what we are doing and, in an unexpected surprise, made us the cover story! The funds raised have also paid for some future promotion which we will produce within a month's time as part of an ongoing campaign.  
  
The CryptoTown On The Ground project has been receiving a lot of attention as we refine and better explain it. We are trying to maintain a separation of CGB and CryptoTown to create an example of how other cryptocommunities can help out. I want to quickly explain what we are giving to and getting from the CryptoTown project. The project was created out of necessity for CGB. We have left behind PoW mining as a primary focus and have therefore lost the majority of the attention. This is a question that any coin community can ask: If our mining profitability drops too low, where will the demand come from? The answer is that it should come from adoption into its intended role. Adoption of crypto is a goal of CryptoTown On The Ground.  
  
It should be noted, that just because the CGB Core Team and community have made great contributions to the CryptoTown project, it does not mean that CryptoMalls will advocate for CGB, nor that businesses will end up accepting or storing it. What makes that happen is our continued dedication to making CGB a currency that is easy to use and which has a suite of tools and services available for the use cases we encounter in the project. This is adoption. This is breaking it down into the actual task.  
  
Through the CryptoTown On The Ground project we will be able to open contact between adoption projects (including CryptoMalls), and our support network of consultants and developers. We hope that common goals will enable collaboration amongst cryptocoin communities. Another bonus is recognition in social media via official CryptoTown channels. These benefits are not only available to CGB, but also to any cryptocoin community that wishes to show a strong commitment.  
  
Speaking of collaboration, we would like to put out another request for developers. With our lead developer currently in a semi-inactive state, our Core Team is unable to produce our next client version in a timely manner. If any readers know of a software developer who might fit the bill, let us know! We are able to offer thanks in the form of monetary compensation (CGB).  I will also note here, that there are many other opportunities amongst CGB and CryptoTown for software development.  
  
A special thanks to our consultancy crowd hanging out at our CGB Topic on Bitcointalk. Some excellent, excellent quality discussion has been shared by many especially in the past few weeks. A distinguished mention for BTCat, with outstanding activity and quality. Our community is highly appreciated!  
  
The CGB Core Team

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July 08, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
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CGB Core Team Weekly Update - July 8, 2014

Please also see the Reddit post for further discussion.

This post has been put off in favor of some important events which have recently taken place for CGB.  First and foremost, we celebrated CGB's first birthday on the 27th. A fundraising event was held to help pay for a media promotion as part of the marketing strategies of both CGB, and the CryptoTown project. It was a great success with 2 BTC and over 5000 CGB raised and we would like to thank the community for coming together to make this happen (and bahamapascal for doubling donations!). The fruits of this effort have already begun to arrive with an article placed in the CryptoBiz Magazine. They really appreciated the content, and the potential of what we are doing and, in an unexpected surprise, made us the cover story! The funds raised have also paid for some future promotion which we will produce within a month's time as part of an ongoing campaign.  
  
The CryptoTown On The Ground project has been receiving a lot of attention as we refine and better explain it. We are trying to maintain a separation of CGB and CryptoTown to create an example of how other cryptocommunities can help out. I want to quickly explain what we are giving to and getting from the CryptoTown project. The project was created out of necessity for CGB. We have left behind PoW mining as a primary focus and have therefore lost the majority of the attention. This is a question that any coin community can ask: If our mining profitability drops too low, where will the demand come from? The answer is that it should come from adoption into its intended role. Adoption of crypto is a goal of CryptoTown On The Ground.  
  
It should be noted, that just because the CGB Core Team and community have made great contributions to the CryptoTown project, it does not mean that CryptoMalls will advocate for CGB, nor that businesses will end up accepting or storing it. What makes that happen is our continued dedication to making CGB a currency that is easy to use and which has a suite of tools and services available for the use cases we encounter in the project. This is adoption. This is breaking it down into the actual task.  
  
Through the CryptoTown On The Ground project we will be able to open contact between adoption projects (including CryptoMalls), and our support network of consultants and developers. We hope that common goals will enable collaboration amongst cryptocoin communities. Another bonus is recognition in social media via official CryptoTown channels. These benefits are not only available to CGB, but also to any cryptocoin community that wishes to show a strong commitment.  
  
Speaking of collaboration, we would like to put out another request for developers. With our lead developer currently in a semi-inactive state, our Core Team is unable to produce our next client version in a timely manner. If any readers know of a software developer who might fit the bill, let us know! We are able to offer thanks in the form of monetary compensation (CGB).  I will also note here, that there are many other opportunities amongst CGB and CryptoTown for software development.  
  
A special thanks to our consultancy crowd hanging out at our CGB Topic on Bitcointalk. Some excellent, excellent quality discussion has been shared by many especially in the past few weeks. A distinguished mention for BTCat, with outstanding activity and quality. Our community is highly appreciated!  
  
The CGB Core Team

Thanks PSD! OP updated!
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July 08, 2014, 03:13:38 PM
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July issue of CryptoBiz Magazine is out!!! http://issuu.com/cryptobizmag/docs/crypto-biz-magazine-issue.02-final0/0

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July 08, 2014, 04:47:26 PM
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Just stunning, fantastic development sure to push adoption  Smiley

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July 08, 2014, 11:44:57 PM
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Just stunning, fantastic development sure to push adoption  Smiley

God, I sure hope so.  Is there a site where I can see CGB-BTC exchange rates in a single click?  I mean without having to click through the cryptsy markets?
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July 09, 2014, 03:03:44 AM
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Trickle of  Net;

Thanks, bahamapascal. You understand aright: the time is now.

It is tiny and clunky but you can nuy the products of Cherry Valley Farm Australia with CGB.

Next: the Auustralian proto cgb for physical bullion project is undetway. I sold $125 of silver bullion for CGB yesterday. Details tofollow.
Net still v bad

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July 09, 2014, 10:46:38 AM
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That is a really great looking cover.  Smiley




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Really nice work, and an interesting article about CGB!
Nice work team!, and I hope that this marks the start for the renewed investors interest in our favorite bullion Smiley

Looking forward to the ongoing marketing campaign!
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July 09, 2014, 01:01:19 PM
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Trickle of  Net;

Thanks, bahamapascal. You understand aright: the time is now.

It is tiny and clunky but you can nuy the products of Cherry Valley Farm Australia with CGB.

Next: the Auustralian proto cgb for physical bullion project is undetway. I sold $125 of silver bullion for CGB yesterday. Details tofollow.
Net still v bad

Mark, Australia

Hey Mark! Good to year from ya! That's great to hear about the Farm, and especially the bullion sale. We were thinking of a global CryptoMall dedicated to the exchanges who will make such bullion trades possible. The key behind this is establishing the market, and a "crypto to gold" ratio, just as Silver to Gold is tracked. Investors can have more confidence that their crypto can easily be sold for precious metals or the metals for crypto. Just get to the safety of one or the other can you can then adjust your holdings for a preferred balance.

Much progress has been made on the CryptoTown documentation, but I have still not caught up to the workshops.

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July 09, 2014, 01:19:47 PM
Last edit: July 09, 2014, 01:47:21 PM by BitcoinNational
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CGB Investors

Q. Does the minting function work?

A. Yes it does.   Smiley (like a champ!)

Small problem is unlocking the wallet.  No button.
Easy to fix just use the console command.

Code:
walletpassphrase <passphrase> <timeout>

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July 09, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
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CGB Investors

Q. Does the minting function work?

A. Yes it does.   Smiley (like a champ!)

Small problem is unlocking the wallet.  No button.
Easy to fix just use the console command.

Code:
walletpassphrase <passphrase> <timeout>

And since there is almost no one minting you will find a block very fast. Free coins for anyone who bothers.

I really don't understand why people keep their coins on the exchanges. You are giving away your pos blocks, but even worse, you are giving a lot of coins to cryptsy who are minting and dumping.

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July 09, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
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Someone asked me what's so special about CGB:

It's one of the few coins that never has any problems, technically and no social drama's. Community is always friendly and mature, quite the opposite from many other coins where people are acting rude, childish or totally unprofessional. Many coin dev's lack the ability to do proper marketing and take their coin serious. CGB is very different, ethics is very important for businesses and investors to get involved. That's why CGB will succeed is my believe  Wink

Thanks guys  Cheesy
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