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July 16, 2020, 02:18:11 AM Last edit: July 16, 2020, 02:37:00 AM by Thomasio |
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A good way to get items quickly is to send drones 2-3 squares away from you to empty slots that surround you. Once you do that move in any direction by about 5 squares and then do the same thing again.
Recycling glasses, watches and lightbulbs are good items to recycle for glass if you have a lot of them. Magnifiers and test tubes don’t seem to be too difficult to find and they tend to give you quite a lot of glass, especially Magnifiers. So whenever you find Magnifiers or at least a few test tubes and you need glass then go recycle them, but I do agree with you though. There needs to be more a lot more glass and probably a few more plastic items to find. Too many metal items, but more is better than less.
You have missed my point AND you haven't understood how it works. First of all it doesn't make ANY difference how far away from your position you send a drone to an empty field, in fact you can send 23 (that's my current max) drones simultaneously to THE SAME field, just 1 away from your position, it will complete 23 missions within 1 minute and it will find the EXACT same stuff you find if you send your drones to all different fields. You don't even have to select the field every time, you select the field once and then you click "send a drone" 23 times in a row, takes less than 20 seconds (if your computer is fast enough to update the display that fast). Even if you misclick and launch the same "real" mission twice in a row, the first of the two drones will pick the item from the field and the 2nd drone arriving just half a second later will see this as an empty field where it finds things to recycle, only in this case the empty field costs you just as much energy as the item. But then my main point was that you ALWAYS find so much more metal than anything else, that you end up with a huge supply of metal and no way to use it, because you're missing the glass to upgrade the drones.
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July 21, 2020, 12:22:34 PM |
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But then my main point was that you ALWAYS find so much more metal than anything else, that you end up with a huge supply of metal and no way to use it, because you're missing the glass to upgrade the drones.
I have to agree, recycling rewards are significantly slanted towards Metal, with Plastic being the most common of the two remaining. Right now I have ~6K Metal, 500 Plastic and 0 Glass and can't do anything with that. A few suggestions: - Have areas where certain recyclable items have an increased drop rate. Doubt there should be any glass or much plastic on roads, but there should be more available on cities.
- Increase the range of recyclable items that give Plastic/Glass. PVC pipes, glass panes, tires, etc.
- Rebalance the drops. Some things, like pipes, are very easy to find and give 15-30 Metal when recycled, so either make those items rarer or that they give less metal.
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Thomasio
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July 23, 2020, 01:11:23 AM Last edit: July 23, 2020, 01:23:27 AM by Thomasio |
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EDIT: not forget level 21 missions Thomasio, just not yet done.
I believe this quote is now almost half a year old (just to make sure you can't tell me I wouldn't be patient). We have seen various updates, including a whole new version of the site software, several new cards implemented (where at least one of them has up to this day no value whatsoever), but level 21 missions are nowhere in sight. There was time for tiny little gimmicks, such as creating frames around buttons, there was time for creating a whole bunch of graphics for the recycle items, but apparently implementing a new level BEFORE the first users reach it and thereby keeping some value in cards that "increase chances of success in higher level missions" is at the very bottom of the priority list, only maybe giving a value to the Bitcoin card might be even lower on the list. Meanwhile I'm 62% into level 22 and I'm beginning to wonder, since level 21 missions are by now delayed by over a year, whether or not level 22 missions might be implemented before 2030, while by now with respect to cards that "increase chances of success in higher level missions" we would require level 23 missions already.
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July 23, 2020, 06:54:48 AM |
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Is there a way to get out of this game by getting the little I have "earned"? 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC. They aren't at all big amounts, but they should belong to me. Instead, because of the crazy limits, they will stay in the site owner's pocket forever.
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Thomasio
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July 23, 2020, 12:17:17 PM |
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Is there a way to get out of this game by getting the little I have "earned"? 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC. They aren't at all big amounts, but they should belong to me. Instead, because of the crazy limits, they will stay in the site owner's pocket forever.
Yes there is. You can use the market to exchange all the different cryptos for just one, i.e. all the btc and all the ltc for doge. You might lose a bit of value there because the market is user to user and you will have to offer a good deal to find a buyer, but with that you should be above the withdrawal limit of doge and then you can withdraw that. Furthermore you can even sell crystals, cards and more in the market, to get some more out of it.
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July 23, 2020, 02:23:26 PM |
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Is there a way to get out of this game by getting the little I have "earned"? 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC. They aren't at all big amounts, but they should belong to me. Instead, because of the crazy limits, they will stay in the site owner's pocket forever.
Yes there is. You can use the market to exchange all the different cryptos for just one, i.e. all the btc and all the ltc for doge. You might lose a bit of value there because the market is user to user and you will have to offer a good deal to find a buyer, but with that you should be above the withdrawal limit of doge and then you can withdraw that. Furthermore you can even sell crystals, cards and more in the market, to get some more out of it. I know, but now I need some "token" also for the market and I don't have a clue how to get it. Good Lord...
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July 23, 2020, 03:22:00 PM |
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I know, but now I need some "token" also for the market and I don't have a clue how to get it. Good Lord...
You'll need a 'Trade Token' to use the market. Obviously, you can't buy them right now (because you need at least one for each trade) so you can try to find them on the world map around you. Look for a two-arrow symbol like this ⇄ and send drones to that location.
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July 23, 2020, 04:12:47 PM |
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I know, but now I need some "token" also for the market and I don't have a clue how to get it. Good Lord...
You'll need a 'Trade Token' to use the market. Obviously, you can't buy them right now (because you need at least one for each trade) so you can try to find them on the world map around you. Look for a two-arrow symbol like this ⇄ and send drones to that location. You can also find them in crates and as an ‘extra bonus’ on most world missions sometimes as well.
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Thomasio
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July 23, 2020, 05:05:56 PM |
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Is there a way to get out of this game by getting the little I have "earned"? 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC. They aren't at all big amounts, but they should belong to me. Instead, because of the crazy limits, they will stay in the site owner's pocket forever.
Yes there is. You can use the market to exchange all the different cryptos for just one, i.e. all the btc and all the ltc for doge. You might lose a bit of value there because the market is user to user and you will have to offer a good deal to find a buyer, but with that you should be above the withdrawal limit of doge and then you can withdraw that. Furthermore you can even sell crystals, cards and more in the market, to get some more out of it. I know, but now I need some "token" also for the market and I don't have a clue how to get it. Good Lord... Are you trying to fool us? Do you REALLY want to tell us, you made 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC without ever finding any trade tokens? Even if you have actively tried to avoid getting any trade tokens you should still have at least 100 or so.
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July 24, 2020, 11:29:18 AM |
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Is there a way to get out of this game by getting the little I have "earned"? 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC. They aren't at all big amounts, but they should belong to me. Instead, because of the crazy limits, they will stay in the site owner's pocket forever.
Yes there is. You can use the market to exchange all the different cryptos for just one, i.e. all the btc and all the ltc for doge. You might lose a bit of value there because the market is user to user and you will have to offer a good deal to find a buyer, but with that you should be above the withdrawal limit of doge and then you can withdraw that. Furthermore you can even sell crystals, cards and more in the market, to get some more out of it. I know, but now I need some "token" also for the market and I don't have a clue how to get it. Good Lord... Are you trying to fool us? Do you REALLY want to tell us, you made 20k sat, 120 Doge and 1.8 million LTC without ever finding any trade tokens? Even if you have actively tried to avoid getting any trade tokens you should still have at least 100 or so. Not at all. That was my balance I think before the introduction of the game. I left the site ages ago and only recently it came to my mind that there I have a small balance. What should I do to get this wonderful tokens?
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Thomasio
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July 24, 2020, 01:48:13 PM |
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Not at all. That was my balance I think before the introduction of the game. I left the site ages ago and only recently it came to my mind that there I have a small balance. What should I do to get this wonderful tokens?
Ok, that explains it. Easiest way to get some trade tokens is doing the daily tasks. Top left of the page next to your avatar click "Quests". Scroll through and see which ones are easy, i.e. "Buy 100 Gift tickets" requires only 200 Crystals (if you buy the cheapest). That will give you a bronze and a silver chest you can open (just takes a few more Crystals and a few hours to wait), where you then need a little luck, because many but not all chests contain a few trade tokens. Alternatively you can go to the world, move through the map and look for tokens, as FatFork explained above. Last but not least, once you have at least ONE trade token, you can go to the market and look for offers that sell trade tokens, just don't get scammed, trade tokens shouldn't cost more than 1 sat per token.
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July 26, 2020, 04:28:06 PM Last edit: July 26, 2020, 04:55:07 PM by Thomasio |
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Not sure what it's worth for, but here's an update to my previous bug report about energy.
Not only does one once in a while get energy back, one also frequently loses energy.
As reported above, when spending energy in launching missions and afterwards going to open a crate or so, once in a while one gets the energy back, because the server didn't sync in between. This one apparently depends on server load, rarely happens at night, but frequently during daytime when many users are active.
New for this bug report is how you lose energy and there are several ways.
- Generally you shouldn't switch from any page to any other page (like from map to mining or so) shortly after the auto energy refill every 10 minutes, because quite frequently it will "forget" the 10 energy it just refilled and you lose it again and not even a manual page refresh will solve that. In effect you're kinda forced not to do anything on the site for about 30 seconds after every auto energy refill. - If you're on the crates page opening crates while the auto energy refill kicks in, if you open the next crate within 10 or 20 seconds after the refill, it will "forget" about the energy refill and you lose those 10 energy again. - Launching missions within 10 or 20 seconds after the auto energy refill becomes costly, because the auto refill almost always gets reversed upon next mission launch, meaning launching a level 20 mission will cost 30 energy. - If you are close to full energy, like being level 20 and having 195 out of a max of 200 energy and you do a shortlink to refill energy, usually it will add full 10 energy, meaning you have 205 afterwards, but the auto refill every 10 minutes limits the refill to 200 and this limit remains in place for the next manual refill, so if you have 185 energy, the auto refill fills it to 195 and then you do a shortlink for manual refill within 10 or 20 seconds after the auto refill, the manual refill will also be limited to the max of 200 (this one can be fixed by a manual page refresh in between).
Last but not least you can never be sure whether the energy you get displayed is correct, frequently I see 25 energy or so, click a level 20 mission and get "error, not enough energy" (where I'm guessing that's because a reversed auto refill wasn't updated in the display), other times I know from the time that the auto refill should have kicked in, but it doesn't show the energy added, meaning it will show the 10 energy I had before the auto refill, will let me launch a level 20 mission anyway and then display energy -10 until the next page refresh.
Over all I'd say it halfway balances out, what you gain from this bug is roughly same much as you lose through this bug, but it's really pretty annoying.
I did notice that an attempt was made to fix this, because now when launching missions sometimes it will say "player data updated" after every single mission launch, a gigantic drain on server resources, but that doesn't fix the problem, because all the updates in the world cannot fix an out of sync problem for outsourced processing power in times where the server lags behind the user, especially not if the user's computer is way faster than the server, just the opposite, this attempt to fix things makes things worse, because all these additional updates make the server even slower.
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July 29, 2020, 04:09:56 AM |
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question - what does no extra crate means and the crate is in color red when i check my mission results tab but when i check My crates tab it says there available crates 14/14
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Thomasio
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July 29, 2020, 05:30:42 AM |
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question - what does no extra crate means and the crate is in color red when i check my mission results tab but when i check My crates tab it says there available crates 14/14
That's just a possible, but not secure bonus, read below the red chest and if you see "no extra crate" it just means you didn't get an extra crate this time.
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July 31, 2020, 08:39:13 AM |
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Not at all. That was my balance I think before the introduction of the game. I left the site ages ago and only recently it came to my mind that there I have a small balance. What should I do to get this wonderful tokens?
Ok, that explains it. Easiest way to get some trade tokens is doing the daily tasks. Top left of the page next to your avatar click "Quests". Scroll through and see which ones are easy, i.e. "Buy 100 Gift tickets" requires only 200 Crystals (if you buy the cheapest). That will give you a bronze and a silver chest you can open (just takes a few more Crystals and a few hours to wait), where you then need a little luck, because many but not all chests contain a few trade tokens. Alternatively you can go to the world, move through the map and look for tokens, as FatFork explained above. Last but not least, once you have at least ONE trade token, you can go to the market and look for offers that sell trade tokens, just don't get scammed, trade tokens shouldn't cost more than 1 sat per token. Ok. After 2 days I managed to find one and got somehow another 150 on the market for 200 sats. A bit higher, but ok. Put for sale my sats, doge and cards (I think for a fair price) and let's hope I can get the my LTC. Thanks for the suggestions
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July 31, 2020, 09:29:01 AM |
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Ok. After 2 days I managed to find one and got somehow another 150 on the market for 200 sats. A bit higher, but ok. Put for sale my sats, doge and cards (I think for a fair price) and let's hope I can get the my LTC. Thanks for the suggestions
Okay, I see your offer on the market. For starters, in my opinion, the price ratio for satoshi / litoshi is not good. Litoshi generally has higher value due to easier withdrawal and lower transaction fee so it is unrealistic to expect someone to pay you +2.27% over the actual market value. As for the cards, I see that you offered them all in one bundle, which is fine if you want to get rid of them quickly, but I see that your offer has already been rated as 'scam' by two players (not me). In my experience, cards are better sold in batch according to their effective value. Eg. bronze, silver and gold cards offered separately. In this way, potential customers can easily calculate the average price per card, which will make the purchase decision easier.
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July 31, 2020, 10:22:28 AM |
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Ok. After 2 days I managed to find one and got somehow another 150 on the market for 200 sats. A bit higher, but ok. Put for sale my sats, doge and cards (I think for a fair price) and let's hope I can get the my LTC. Thanks for the suggestions
Okay, I see your offer on the market. For starters, in my opinion, the price ratio for satoshi / litoshi is not good. Litoshi generally has higher value due to easier withdrawal and lower transaction fee so it is unrealistic to expect someone to pay you +2.27% over the actual market value. As for the cards, I see that you offered them all in one bundle, which is fine if you want to get rid of them quickly, but I see that your offer has already been rated as 'scam' by two players (not me). In my experience, cards are better sold in batch according to their effective value. Eg. bronze, silver and gold cards offered separately. In this way, potential customers can easily calculate the average price per card, which will make the purchase decision easier. Thanks for the feed back. So, what is "there" considered a fair ratio BTC/LTC? For those who marked my offer for cards as a scam only human understanding. They are totally free to dislike it, but how it can be a scam only God knows. I don't have a clue on how much they can be worth. I stopped to use the site long ago and I simply would like to get out with something of my balance. Any advice you'd be willing to give me? It would be much appreciated EDIT: You can also DM me if you don't want to make public your suggestions
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Thomasio
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July 31, 2020, 10:35:04 AM |
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So, what is "there" considered a fair ratio BTC/LTC?
I'm frequently trading btc for ltc and I can tell you from experience the borderline where you find buyers/seller is about +10%, meaning you offer a deal where you offer 10% more btc than the current value to get ltc. For those who marked my offer for cards as a scam only human understanding. They are totally free to dislike it, but how it can be a scam only God knows. I don't have a clue on how much they can be worth.
Cards are currently worth the amount of stars on the card times 0.4 sat and it doesn't make any difference whether you offer small or large amounts, above this price you won't find buyers. What I do is simple, I just count how many cards I'm putting on sale, multiply each card by the amount of stars it has and then in the end I multiply the result * 0.4.
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July 31, 2020, 10:43:25 AM Last edit: July 31, 2020, 11:18:12 AM by Senzacervello |
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Cards are currently worth the amount of stars on the card times 0.4 sat and it doesn't make any difference whether you offer small or large amounts, above this price you won't find buyers. What I do is simple, I just count how many cards I'm putting on sale, multiply each card by the amount of stars it has and then in the end I multiply the result * 0.4.
Don't see any star on top of the cards Edit1: Ok. Now I found them. LOL Edit2: corrected the offers according to suggestions (had to use excel for the cards)
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Thomasio
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August 04, 2020, 07:37:00 PM |
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I have to agree, recycling rewards are significantly slanted towards Metal, with Plastic being the most common of the two remaining. Right now I have ~6K Metal, 500 Plastic and 0 Glass and can't do anything with that.
I've just for the fun of it recycled everything I got, the result looks like this: @jamboom, how about an offer in your store that offers trading metal for glass?
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