[ POOL CLOSED ] Mainframe Mining Cooperative

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First block found!!

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136,874   119 left   vladimir   2011-07-18 02:10:01 PM

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[spankymio]

Seems like the contribution stats didn't reset for the new round.

[spankymio]

It's in "account details", perhaps it deserves a separate page, though.

Maybe it only appeared the moment I pointed more than one worker at it, but I just never noticed it before - as mentioned, maybe I never scrolled down enough. 

[klaaster]

Great  , now the ball gets rolling.

[AnnihilaT]

woot! we did it guys... one thing about round stats... we handle rounds a tiny bit different than u might be used to... basically we define a round as the period of time between payouts so you won't see round stats change till we hit 120 confirms on this first block.   each 120 confirms a payout is done and the round officially ends...   hope that clears up any confusion... on my list todo I want to make a FAQ page that explains these types of things so that newcomers understand what our stats mean

anni

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basically we define a round as the period of time between payouts so you won't see round stats change till we hit 120 confirms on this first block.

What happens if another block is found before the first one has 120 confirms? How are the payout shares calculated then?

[spankymio]

basically we define a round as the period of time between payouts so you won't see round stats change till we hit 120 confirms on this first block.   each 120 confirms a payout is done and the round officially ends...  

that is horribly useful for pool hopping. I could have had my miners pointing at another pool generating small regular amounts of bitcoins then as soon as you receive your 1st block I jump on MMC to grab some shares for the 17 hours or so it takes to accept 120 confirmations on a block - reducing the work that has been done by the people in from the start? 

[AnnihilaT]

Hi guys,

Sorry this is my fault for not explaining well enough.... i was at the eye doctor replying on my phone so i didnt maybe explain it as well as i should have.   

When i say that we define a round as periods between payouts i meant this ONLY for the purpose of generating statistics.  CERTAINLY NOT for calculating payouts.   

If it took 100,000 shares to find block one then the round shares counter will keep going until 120 confirms are reach for that first block and a payout is done. 

Right before payout on block 1 the counter might say 350,000 round shares (block 1 plus shares towards block 2). but calculations are done only on that 100,000 shares alone and only those who contributed to that 100,000 shares are paid out of that block.

After block 1 is paid out, the 100,000 shares which contributed to finding that block will removed from the current round leaving that 150,000 shares towards block 2.   So you will see the round shares not reset to 0 after we have the first block confirmed -rather you will see them drastically reduce (its gonna be something like $current_number - the 5.8 million it took to get us to that first block). 

One other thing to note which i know will cause confusion.   Your round estimate at the moment is taking into consideration the entire amount of round shares so you can expect that it too will change when the first block is confirmed.   

I understand it might be a bit confusing and we have plans to work on this to make it better as we get the time.   I also think that the biggest oddities and confusion will only be apparent until we have the first confirmed block.  After that it should make more sense how the stats are done.   

Open to any discussion or ideas about this and appreciate the feedback!

Cheers,
Anni

[spankymio]

When i say that we define a round as periods between payouts i meant this ONLY for the purpose of generating statistics.  CERTAINLY NOT for calculating payouts.   

Clarified perfectly for me. Thanks.

[AnnihilaT]

basically we define a round as the period of time between payouts so you won't see round stats change till we hit 120 confirms on this first block.

What happens if another block is found before the first one has 120 confirms? How are the payout shares calculated then?

in case the last post didnt answer this one directly,   we know and track which shares belong to which block and payout them out accordingly.   Its just our statistics that follow a somewhat non tradtional approach.  The data is all there in the databases appropriately its just how you choose to interpret and display this data which can be left up to preference.

[AnnihilaT]

Hit the second block already!  Can we do three in a day ?

[Math Man]

Hit the second block already!  Can we do three in a day ?

"Ask and ye shall receive."

Talk about good luck!

[biochem]

Slowly transfer my GPU power to this pool. 

[klaaster]

Hit the second block already!  Can we do three in a day ?

Yes he can!
Poetic justice.  

[AnnihilaT]

All,

For the coming "first" payout for the first confirmed block,  I will be in bed (4am my time)... im trusting the tests i have done and am going to let everything run automagically as coded but if anything goes seriously wrong i will be around 4-5 hours later to fix things when i wake up.  backups of data are secure and everything can be restored if something goes wrong.  

It's not my intention to worry anyone but just to reassure that since its a new pool there could be issues and if there are any we have disaster recovery plans in place to cope with any situation.  If there are problems,  we will fix them and make it right.  

Lets keep our fingers crossed!

Nite all!

[AnnihilaT]

Slowly transfer my GPU power to this pool. 

WElcome

[Math Man]

All,

For the coming "first" payout for the first confirmed block,  I will be in bed (4am my time)... im trusting the tests i have done and am going to let everything run automagically as coded but if anything goes seriously wrong i will be around 4-5 hours later to fix things when i wake up.  backups of data are secure and everything can be restored if something goes wrong. 

It's not my intention to worry anyone but just to reassure that since its a new pool there could be issues and if there are any we have disaster recovery plans in place to cope with any situation.  If there are problems,  we will fix them and make it right. 

Lets keep our fingers crossed!

Nite all!

The 1st block reached 120 confirmations, but I'm still seeing a 0 BTC account balance.  Did anyone receive any BTC from the first block?

Also, I'm pretty sure the total pool shares didn't go down by ~5.8 million from the first block.

I'll just hang tight until Annihala wakes up. 

EDIT:  About 35 minutes after I posted this, some BTC showed up in my account balance, but the total pool shares still don't seem to be reduced by the first block's shares.

[kripz]

Where can i check ny number of share submitted and total shares per block?

[rearwheels]

Hi guys,

I've added Mainframe MC to www.btc-poolwatch.com

If you mine at multiple pools, this should be useful to you.

The main page auto-refreshes every 5 minutes.

If you point your iphone/android phones to it, it will be formatted to 320px width so everything displays nicely.

Hope you guys like it.

Regards,
Koo

[AnnihilaT]

Guys,

there were issues....   im on it.