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August 10, 2013, 01:10:07 AM |
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loling at myself.. Their page is password protected, so I took their miners off my list. Obviously it's just so they can update it for tomorrow though. I'll fix my page then. Please have some info on who is designing chips, it is strange you still have job listings posted. If that and the manufacturing company are explained then a lot of people will be excited to jump on board.
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CYPER
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August 10, 2013, 01:18:53 AM |
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loling at myself.. Their page is password protected, so I took their miners off my list. Obviously it's just so they can update it for tomorrow though. I'll fix my page then. Please have some info on who is designing chips, it is strange you still have job listings posted. If that and the manufacturing company are explained then a lot of people will be excited to jump on board.
Your comparison table is wrong. Have a look: http://res.cloudinary.com/hrscywv4p/image/upload/c_limit,h_900,w_1200/joenspmvlcveo2uzlaue.pngOlympus is $999 per blade, but each blade is 75GH/s, thus for 1.2TH/s you need 16 blades as shown in the picture = $15984 Basically each blade is 75GH/s and the more you buy the cheaper it gets, the cheapest being $999 when you buy 8 or more for the Olympus  I don't think there is 9.6TH/s product, not even 3.7TH/s The fastest is Olympus with 32 blades for a total of 2.4TH/s and a price of $31968. Not sure why there are different prices underneath??? Also their pricing doesn't seem consistent, because cheaper product are better in terms of cost per GH/s. |
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August 10, 2013, 01:54:14 AM |
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Tonight, KNC released pricing around single digit levels per GH/s for November shipping. That means any competitor will need to beat that by at least 25% considering KNC will have already shipped two months of products. Why go with a new company when one will have a history and competitive price. Playing it save today means just waiting for November and buying a KNC unit and having it shipped the next day. Soon there will be no more pre-orders unless the reward is huge.
GOOD LUCK!!! Hope you shock us with your prices and details tomorrow!
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August 10, 2013, 02:23:20 AM |
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Tonight, KNC released pricing around single digit levels per GH/s for November shipping. Eh? Oh, yeah mean sub $10/GH/sec? Yeah. Apparently the actual manufacturing cost of the chips themselves is $2 gh/sec, add in the machine, admin, and shipping and parts costs for the rest. Figure, $4.5/gh is the total cost and the rest possibly profit. Still room for cutting the price further, down to, say, $6 /gh/sec. |
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August 10, 2013, 03:03:39 AM
Last edit: August 10, 2013, 03:56:40 AM by FCTaiChi |
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Tonight, KNC released pricing around single digit levels per GH/s for November shipping. That means any competitor will need to beat that by at least 25% considering KNC will have already shipped two months of products. Why go with a new company when one will have a history and competitive price. Playing it save today means just waiting for November and buying a KNC unit and having it shipped the next day. Soon there will be no more pre-orders unless the reward is huge.
GOOD LUCK!!! Hope you shock us with your prices and details tomorrow!
Oh you're right, I should add that. I did for BitFury's alternate timed pricing. Just a sec and I'll have it up. Thanks CYPER, I should have checked with numbers like that. I have had companies claim that kind of number before, and put them up just to show that it was unreasonable. |
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August 10, 2013, 03:06:39 AM |
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Tonight, KNC released pricing around single digit levels per GH/s for November shipping. That means any competitor will need to beat that by at least 25% considering KNC will have already shipped two months of products. Why go with a new company when one will have a history and competitive price. Playing it save today means just waiting for November and buying a KNC unit and having it shipped the next day. Soon there will be no more pre-orders unless the reward is huge.
GOOD LUCK!!! Hope you shock us with your prices and details tomorrow!
Funny to talk about a company's "history" when all it means is that they've already taken pre-orders for months prior to November. Things are moving so quickly in the bitcoin ASIC world that "one month in the future" is already "history"  |
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CYPER
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August 10, 2013, 11:01:01 AM |
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Thanks CYPER, I should have checked with numbers like that. I have had companies claim that kind of number before, and put them up just to show that it was unreasonable.
Your calculations are still wrong  It is very easy to calculate - Blade Speed / Bitcoin Price So 75GH/s / ($1099/102) = 75/10.774 = 6.96 GH/B Btw do you use the same USD/BTC exchange rate for all machines? I would assume you import it dynamically every time the table is refreshed by the viewer? But still I think you should stick to GH/s per USD |
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fiktionist
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August 10, 2013, 12:29:59 PM |
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@xCrowd: Your Website is protected, whats happening there? Also you announced tomorrow on twitter, whats happening tomorrow? https://twitter.com/x_Crowd/status/364711185125343233don't leave youre customers in the dark. |
liked that post? Official BeerAdress: 12Q9d7tntiQXARjpVSRKnQhzJy4MoAaonL
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 10, 2013, 12:46:20 PM |
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Unfortunately there were some vulnerabilities on our website that others were attempting to exploit. We are literally working around the clock to get everything prepared for the launch. You could always contact us through twitter or by email - Contact@xCrowd.co.ukWe will be sending out a newsletter within a few hours. |
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dvdrewritable
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August 10, 2013, 01:56:08 PM |
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are you affiliated with candy store guys, address is the same?
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 10, 2013, 02:00:16 PM |
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are you affiliated with candy store guys, address is the same?
Not affiliated but our website is temporarily registered to the office above the store as one of our investor used to be based there. The team will be split between the Bay area, Austin and the Guangdong region in China over the next few months. |
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eve
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August 10, 2013, 02:13:10 PM |
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can someone from BIRMINGHAM, UK go and check them out, do they really have an office?
2 city arcade
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 10, 2013, 02:24:24 PM |
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Not affiliated but our website is temporarily registered to the office above the store as one of our investor used to be based there.
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is he the one driving the flashy aston and jeeps, got a hot temper does not like scratches on them anyway keeping an eye on your updates- looking very hot, especially a fan of 'pay on delivery'.. hoping everything comes to fruition You must be referring to one of the owners of Candy store. I'm too loyal to my Tesla roadster to even consider those outdated rusty petrol hungry machines  . Cheers, Abdi |
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 10, 2013, 02:30:59 PM |
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can someone from BIRMINGHAM, UK go and check them out, do they really have an office?
2 city arcade
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Wouldn't be worth the effort of having our office based in Birmingham. It was already a uphill battle in recruiting talented people to move there for my previous ventures and we won't be even attempting it for xCrowd. The registered address was just a temporarily mailing address until we are ready to announce more about the company and those involved. We will be hosting a number of open office days as soon as we get our first test batch from our TSMC shuttle. We aren't interested in simply showing of a FPGA demonstration as that won't be useful to anyone. |
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qnosh
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August 10, 2013, 02:33:19 PM |
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Could xCrowd tell us where is the branch(office) at Guangdong region in China? Shenzhen? if so, my girlfriend might drop by and take some pictures or something ...  |
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 10, 2013, 02:38:52 PM |
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Could xCrowd tell us where is the branch(office) at Guangdong region in China? Shenzhen? if so, my girlfriend might drop by and take some pictures or something ... We are working with a design house based in Shenzhen and a PCB manufacturer near Guangzhou, but we don't have an office there (yet) unfortunately. The guys there are pretty much in between hotels and living in airport lobbies. We will be hosting an open day in Shenzhen and HK as soon we are able to get the first prototypes together. |
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FCTaiChi
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August 10, 2013, 02:48:54 PM |
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Your calculations are still wrong I have the largest systems for each category, price being 10*1099=10990 16*999=15984 Maybe I'm being dense, I really am not seeing where I went wrong. Just want to make sure everything is in the right place. |
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CYPER
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August 10, 2013, 02:58:45 PM |
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Your calculations are still wrong I have the largest systems for each category, price being 10*1099=10990 16*999=15984 Maybe I'm being dense, I really am not seeing where I went wrong. Just want to make sure everything is in the right place. In one of the xCrowd topics it was established that each blade is 75GH/s, which might not be the case, but it looks like it. According to your calculations each blade is 150GH/s Maybe you should wait until more information is presented and then include them in your table. At the moment there are 2 sets of prices and it is unclear which one is for what. But one this is sure: there is no way 2400GH/s would cost 16K USD |
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 10, 2013, 02:59:36 PM |
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Your calculations are still wrong I have the largest systems for each category, price being 10*1099=10990 16*999=15984 Maybe I'm being dense, I really am not seeing where I went wrong. Just want to make sure everything is in the right place. Those prices are correct but you may want to mention that the 30% deposit option price will be slightly higher (~10%) |
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CYPER
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August 10, 2013, 03:01:29 PM |
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Your calculations are still wrong I have the largest systems for each category, price being 10*1099=10990 16*999=15984 Maybe I'm being dense, I really am not seeing where I went wrong. Just want to make sure everything is in the right place. Those prices are correct but you may want to mention that the 30% deposit option price will be slightly higher (~10%) So you are saying that the 2400GH/s Olympus will have a price of 15984USD and will consist of 16 blades, each being 150GH/s? |
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