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August 24, 2013, 07:57:13 PM |
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So I preordered a miner, and I have yet to pay for it... So I'm happy. I can just wait and see and when they actually try to take my money, then I can see if it's a scam.
Exactly, unless they start asking for payment that's the best we can do, besides ignoring the trolls. |
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RHA
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August 24, 2013, 10:17:05 PM |
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Was: We are aware that predicting the difficulty growth rate can be difficult due to the large number of undisclosed miners and new entrants. That’s why we’re dedicated to offering the best prices now and in the long term. Although the difficulty rate is up at a exponential growth rate we are quite confident that the difficulty rate will not pass 350 Million within 4/5 months as that would require an additional 3 PH or e.g. 50,000+ Gen1 Avalon units to be shipped before December.
xCrowd will be the best hedge against near term difficulty increases due to our low prices. We’re also offering a discount of 50% to double your hash rate if the difficulty rate rises beyond 200 million before we start shipping. If the difficulty rate passes 200 Million before we start bulk shipping, our customers will receive a 50% discount on any future blade or unit purchases.
For example, if you purchase a low-entry eight blade Olympus unit you will be able to upgrade to another additional eight units for just an additional $3,996. If the difficulty rate passes 300 million you can request an additional upgrade for just 25% of the original price. For example: a 16 blade Olympus unit will only cost $9,990 (excl shipping & PSU options) when upgraded at a difficulty rate of 300M+.
Regardless of the future, we can assure you that we will always set our prices according to your expected ROI, which makes xCrowd the best bet for a long time to come. Now is: We’re aware that mining the network can be difficult due to the large number of undisclosed miners and pools. The difficulty rate is growing exponentially.
Still, we’re confident that 300 million won’t be reached within the next four to five months. After all, we wouldn’t have started if that was so—it would mean an additional 2.7 Peta Hashes or, for example, 40,000+ Gen1 Avalon units to be shipped before December.
xCrowd will be the best hedge against near term difficulty increases due to our low prices. We’re also offering a discount of 50% off your next order (of the same unit) if the difficulty rate rises beyond 300 million before we start shipping. If the difficulty rate passes 200 Million before we start bulk shipping, our customers will receive a 50% discount on any future blade or unit purchases. For example, if you purchase a low-entry eight blade Olympus unit you will be able to upgrade to another additional eight units for a total price of 200 MH/ $. If the difficulty rate passes 300 million you can request an additional 100% of your total order at no extra cost aside from shipping and tax. A $7992 eight blade Olympus unit can be upgraded to 16 blades at 2.4 TH/s for free, excluding shipping, tax, and PSU options.
Regardless of the future, we can assure you our price of 200 MH/s per dollar makes xCrowd the best bet for a long time to come. The sentences are promising but a bit incoherent. Someone who wrote them, has troubles with maths. For instance the 200 MH/s per $ rate means $750 for a 150 GH/s blade - now it costs $999, with a 50% discount it would cost $500, not $750. Also the 30% of (100%+10%) price was calculated improperly at the shop pages (both with and without PSU). Strange. If there is really a team of engineers, who no one of them is asked for help in calculations? |
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RoadStress
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August 24, 2013, 10:26:27 PM |
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When do we call xCrowd history?
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battsali
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August 24, 2013, 10:47:36 PM |
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I will give them until Monday. +1
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August 24, 2013, 11:03:19 PM |
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So I preordered a miner, and I have yet to pay for it... So I'm happy. I can just wait and see and when they actually try to take my money, then I can see if it's a scam.
So after you preordered a miner and haven't received any word from xCrowd stuff you call yourself happy? People are strange... |
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Anenome5
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August 25, 2013, 02:56:11 AM |
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If we don't hear from them in a day or so it's likely the scam is complete.
The scam may never have involved our BTC at all. Maybe it was an investor scam, where he simply wanted to show millions of dollars in pre-orders to take someone's money and now he's gone. Who knows.
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Ytterbium
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August 25, 2013, 10:16:47 AM |
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So I preordered a miner, and I have yet to pay for it... So I'm happy. I can just wait and see and when they actually try to take my money, then I can see if it's a scam.
So after you preordered a miner and haven't received any word from xCrowd stuff you call yourself happy? People are strange... They filled out the order form but they haven't actually paid yet, so so far there is nothing to worry about. I still think they are total scam, though. |
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btc_uzr
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August 25, 2013, 02:06:47 PM |
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Whois Information For: xcrowd.co.uk Domain name: xcrowd.co.uk Registrant: Terra Deux Ltd Registrant type: UK Limited Company, (Company number: 8606096) Registrant's address: 2 city arcade BIRMINGHAM West Midlands B2 4TX United Kingdom Registrar: Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-reg [Tag = 123-REG] URL: http://www.123-reg.co.ukRelevant dates: Registered on: 06-Feb-2013
Expiry date: 06-Feb-2014Last updated: 07-Aug-2013 Registration status: Registered until expiry date. Name servers: ns3357.hostgator.com ns3358.hostgator.com WHOIS lookup made at 14:45:58 25-Aug-2013 WHOIS search results for: XCROWD.COM (Registered) Domain Name: XCROWD.COM Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.comUpdated Date: 2013-04-01 23:50:22 Creation Date: 2006-02-17 12:14:23
Registrar Expiration Date: 2014-02-17 12:14:23Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited Registrant Name: Zane Gocha Registrant Organization: ZTG BRANDS Registrant Street: 660 4th St Registrant Street: Suite 561 Registrant City: San Francisco Registrant State/Province: California Registrant Postal Code: 94107 Registrant Country: United States Admin Name: Zane Gocha Admin Organization: ZTG BRANDS Admin Street: 660 4th St Admin Street: Suite 561 Admin City: San Francisco Admin State/Province: California Admin Postal Code: 94107 Admin Country: United States Admin Phone: +1.8888945434 Admin Fax: Admin Email: sales@namerific.comTech Name: Zane Gocha Tech Organization: ZTG BRANDS Tech Street: 660 4th St Tech Street: Suite 561 Tech City: San Francisco Tech State/Province: California Tech Postal Code: 94107 Tech Country: United States Tech Phone: +1.8888945434 Tech Fax: Tech Email: sales@namerific.comName Server: NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Name Server: NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Domains were registered way before they appeared in here. Why are .co.uk and .com not having the same owner ? In addition I'm wondering why they picked one year duration for their domain, only, while domains are quite cheap.. |
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DebitMe
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August 25, 2013, 02:34:30 PM |
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Alright opinions are changing. Xcrowd, you need to come in here and make some sort of "I am not dead" announcement, with some of the big questions answered. If not by Monday I will have completely changed my mind on the validity of this company.
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Teka
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August 25, 2013, 02:39:20 PM |
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Alright opinions are changing. Xcrowd, you need to come in here and make some sort of "I am not dead" announcement, with some of the big questions answered. If not by Monday I will have completely changed my mind on the validity of this company.
I would give them until Tuesday considering that Monday is a bank holiday in the UK. |
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abuelau
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August 25, 2013, 06:46:21 PM |
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Yep, I would give him until Tuesday. It's a bank holiday here on Monday, lots of people are away as it's the last weekend before school starts again.
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Bitcoinorama
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August 25, 2013, 09:48:38 PM
Last edit: August 25, 2013, 10:00:40 PM by Bitcoinorama |
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Yep, I would give him until Tuesday. It's a bank holiday here on Monday, lots of people are away as it's the last weekend before school starts again.
You think he's still at school?! Seriously though from his recent comms and when he was announcing preparedness for the order opening and he stated at one point is was 1, or 2am, that was definitely not UK GMT. Wherever he is operating from now it's not in the UK. Go back through the thread. See for yourself. EDIT: Bingo; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248396.msg2944412#msg294441What was supposed to happen tomorrow aka today? Lol
The site was supposed to open for Xcrowd orders. Today the 16th. The website should be accessible to everyone later in the day. It's still around 2am here. Please subscribe to our newsletter for first hand updates on when we do go live. That's not 2am GMT, as it was 8am GMT when that post was made, wherever he is it's 6 hours behind the UK... |
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abuelau
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August 25, 2013, 10:39:38 PM |
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I actually meant that he either have kids or his family (brothers, sisters) has them so he might have gone away for the weekend.
Anyway, good catch regarding the times, 6 hours behind UK could be somewhere in the USA, Canada or Latin America...
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abuelau
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August 25, 2013, 11:07:03 PM |
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Well it matters just a bit because I left some BTC in a wallet and didn't invest in anything so that I would have it ready whenever I needed... if I am not using it for xCrowd, I want to invest in something else...
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Xyver
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August 26, 2013, 08:41:27 AM |
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So I preordered a miner, and I have yet to pay for it... So I'm happy. I can just wait and see and when they actually try to take my money, then I can see if it's a scam.
So after you preordered a miner and haven't received any word from xCrowd stuff you call yourself happy? People are strange... They filled out the order form but they haven't actually paid yet, so so far there is nothing to worry about. I still think they are total scam, though. Exactly. If they're a scam, I've got nothing to lose. If they aren't a scam, I've got an early order in. Let's hope it's here by Christmas! |
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btc_uzr
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August 26, 2013, 11:57:21 AM |
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So I preordered a miner, and I have yet to pay for it... So I'm happy. I can just wait and see and when they actually try to take my money, then I can see if it's a scam.
So after you preordered a miner and haven't received any word from xCrowd stuff you call yourself happy? People are strange... They filled out the order form but they haven't actually paid yet, so so far there is nothing to worry about. I still think they are total scam, though. Exactly. If they're a scam, I've got nothing to lose. If they aren't a scam, I've got an early order in. Let's hope it's here by Christmas! +1 |
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Tad3j
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August 26, 2013, 12:50:55 PM |
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So I preordered a miner, and I have yet to pay for it... So I'm happy. I can just wait and see and when they actually try to take my money, then I can see if it's a scam.
So after you preordered a miner and haven't received any word from xCrowd stuff you call yourself happy? People are strange... They filled out the order form but they haven't actually paid yet, so so far there is nothing to worry about. I still think they are total scam, though. Exactly. If they're a scam, I've got nothing to lose. If they aren't a scam, I've got an early order in. Let's hope it's here by Christmas! +1 |
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xcrowd (OP)
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August 26, 2013, 03:49:40 PM |
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We're still alive and we haven't ran off with any "reservations" just yet for those worried. Some of the allegations are slightly amusing but quite a few relevant points were made. It seems like it won't be worth the hassle in securing escrows in the first place if we have to deal with the same folks for the next 5 months if we're able to go without escrows or deposits in general.
The reason we've been absent from the forum for the past few days this weekend is so that we could spend some time going over the latest simulations of our main design from our verification partners and weighting our options (same reason why we haven't requested any escrow deposits yet).
Details will be released when we deem it ready to be published, in the meantime if you have any questions please do contact us directly or simply wait for further updates from us.
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