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Question: When do you think Avalon will deliver? (Lead time)  Site says 9-10 weeks.
September - 7 (21.2%)
October - 3 (9.1%)
November - 4 (12.1%)
December - 4 (12.1%)
2014 - Never - 15 (45.5%)
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Author Topic: If I ordered chips from Avalon now, what month would I get them?  (Read 1022 times)
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July 05, 2013, 04:56:31 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167726.msg2662307#msg2662307

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July 05, 2013, 05:09:31 AM
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Thought the chips were being sent directly from TSMC, so those mysterious issues associated with the mining units would probably be at a minimum.  I hope.
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July 05, 2013, 05:21:41 AM
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Yifu said he hadn't shipped because the shipping company was conspiring against him.  It has been said that the chips are made, but can't be shipped.  This was attributed to a few boxes containing miners being very strangely damaged.  This does not explain why chips can't be sent through alternative shipping.  The samples aren't even coming, and if they do the original contract has been breached by only giving one order's worth of chips to everyone who ordered, despite how many orders they make.

Who has said the chips are made, but can't be shipped?

Links please.

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July 05, 2013, 05:33:02 AM
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The samples aren't even coming, and if they do the original contract has been breached by only giving one order's worth of chips to everyone who ordered, despite how many orders they make.

Sample chips have been received for some purchases.

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July 05, 2013, 05:33:59 AM
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This was a while ago from the bitcoin conference.  I haven't been keeping up, and it's possible that this information is outdated.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1xgGiejIc
To me this doesn't make sense and I never found an answer.  I'm still fairly neutral about Avalon, I just wish there were a few more answers to even out the bumpy road they have had.

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July 05, 2013, 05:35:20 AM
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This was a while ago from the bitcoin conference.  I haven't been keeping up, and it's possible that this information is outdated.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1xgGiejIc
To me this doesn't make sense and I never found an answer.  I'm still fairly neutral about Avalon, I just wish there were a few more answers to even out the bumpy road they have had.

So no evidence either way.

Given that sample chips are hashing I'd lean more to that they can ship or are shipping. Any day we will know. Given BitFury is shipping chips and boards etc... Avalon chips like BFL are going to be less interesting to the masses who have coin to burn.

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July 05, 2013, 05:36:21 AM
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The samples aren't even coming, and if they do the original contract has been breached by only giving one order's worth of chips to everyone who ordered, despite how many orders they make.

Sample chips have been received for some purchases.
Oh nice.  I am really happy to see that some people from China are getting their shipment orders.  Maybe this is a sign that they will ship soon.

Just so everyone knows this isn't anti Avalon propaganda, I just want to know what the community thinks, as I am going to use it as part of the metric for the section of decentralizedhashing.com

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July 05, 2013, 06:57:20 AM
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Yifu said he hadn't shipped because the shipping company was conspiring against him.
That was about miners, not chips.

The samples aren't even coming, and if they do the original contract has been breached by only giving one order's worth of chips to everyone who ordered, despite how many orders they make.
Wrong. Samples are coming, 30 sample chips for every 10,000 order.
There were some problems at the start (sent only one sample per ordering address), but that was sorted out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230157.msg2428298#msg2428298

Sample chips from order(s) made on may, 27, arrived on june, 20:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187660.msg2531978#msg2531978
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July 05, 2013, 02:36:18 PM
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Yifu said he hadn't shipped because the shipping company was conspiring against him.
That was about miners, not chips.

The samples aren't even coming, and if they do the original contract has been breached by only giving one order's worth of chips to everyone who ordered, despite how many orders they make.
Wrong. Samples are coming, 30 sample chips for every 10,000 order.
There were some problems at the start (sent only one sample per ordering address), but that was sorted out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230157.msg2428298#msg2428298

Sample chips from order(s) made on may, 27, arrived on june, 20:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187660.msg2531978#msg2531978

Exactly, that was about miners not chips.  When he started talking about shipping chips he went into his sabotage story.  That's what throws me, and I've never found an explanation for it, despite asking Yifu, and the Avalon crowd several times.

Ok, great, the situation changed about the chips.  I can't wait for people to start getting their prototypes up.  This is exciting, thanks for links.

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July 05, 2013, 03:01:58 PM
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Ok, great, the situation changed about the chips.  I can't wait for people to start getting their prototypes up.  This is exciting, thanks for links.
Working prototype from burnin's 20 chips board:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg2623157#msg2623157
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg2637343#msg2637343
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July 06, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
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Wow he's good.  I don't think I can switch over to actually say he has a working unit at this point, but I don't see anyone closer.
Thanks again ujka

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July 06, 2013, 06:53:34 PM
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I know it's a prototype. But it's a working prototype! (While others are still showing webpages with CAD sketches and enclosures. And taking pre-orders for that!)
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