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[ATOMICSWAP]

LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.

do you think this token will success?

Litecoin didn't do this, you're confused.

We certainly hope it will be a success - working hard on it.

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[heinemannplus]

No full node wallet yet??
 

Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2515675.msg29331612#msg29331612

Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later

So they didn't code and test this before announcing the project? Seems kinda unprofessional.

Of course we tested, and continuing to test, and will release all of the source code soon - it's extremely difficult to do what we did, as it's not just some fork, it's basically an exchange built into the protocol level of bitcoin - nobody has ever attempted such a thing before, it is very technologically difficult.

does it mean that you still working in the project

[Huxleyfree]

No full node wallet yet??
 

Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2515675.msg29331612#msg29331612

I stay tuned the

[Biomech]

Here's my issue: One, if you didn't have the code already working, why would you not then DELAY the fork? That part, you can get from a dozen github repos, the most currently famous being BCH.

Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?

And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.

What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.

BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.

OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???

As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.

[DocSnyd3r]

LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.

do you think this token will success?

Litecoin didn't do this, you're confused.

We certainly hope it will be a success - working hard on it.

https://medium.com/the-litecoin-school-of-crypto/the-case-for-litecoin-via-atomic-swaps-e825b0ec078

 

I'd value it at about $ 15-20 like Bitcore fork. Now I don't even trust their claims and still no source.

[MasterQ]

Here's my issue: One, if you didn't have the code already working, why would you not then DELAY the fork? That part, you can get from a dozen github repos, the most currently famous being BCH.

Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?

And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.

What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.

BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.

OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???

As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.

The more I look into this the more it screams scam IMO. To top it all off the only exchange this is listed on is Yobit which looks like a scam exchange itself based off hundreds of complaints.

Does Yobit let you withdraw BTC yet or is there a contract deadline date? If they do can anyone confirm they have withdrawn their BTC?

[Ayms]

Here's my issue: One, if you didn't have the code already working, why would you not then DELAY the fork? That part, you can get from a dozen github repos, the most currently famous being BCH.

Second, why is there no testnet? Or if there is, see the first question. That's the whole purpose of a testnet. You know, testing?

And if it DOES work, but not quite as intended, would it not make more sense to release what you got (a working, mining capable client, for instance) and work towards fixing that which does NOT work? Or again, delay the fork.

What we have now is something either designed to create fud and scam accusations, or a REALLY SERIOUSLY incompetent dev team.

BCA is alleged to have forked from BTC at block 505888. As I write this, we are at 507311. Making the assumption, as it is not clear at all in the announcement, that the block times are the same and the block reward is the same, that means the dev team ALONE has had access to this chain. If they coded no premine, they still have mined 1423 blocks since then. that's 17787.5 BCA, even if they claim no premine. Granted, the number of people who had coins at the initial block is going to be vastly more than that, but this just smells like market manipulation.

OTOH. If it doesn't yet work, then what the hell is the POINT of forking first and fixing later???

As for the sale of futures.. well, on a semi anonymous project who's only traceable asset is a pretty website, that's plain out sucker bait. Whether the Bitcoin Atom team has anything to do with that or not, it's still just wrong. Not a fan of Yobit to begin with, but that borders on criminal.

The more I look into this the more it screams scam IMO. To top it all off the only exchange this is listed on is Yobit which looks like a scam exchange itself based off hundreds of complaints.

Does Yobit let you withdraw BTC yet or is there a contract deadline date? If they do can anyone confirm they have withdrawn their BTC?

It smells the very same than Bitcoin Interest, which is definitely a big scam, please see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2616641.msg29489124#msg29489124 and following post

See also how the "team" answered bulls to my questions post after post, thinking that people could swallow this

Then I ask again the very same question to Atom but I don't expect to get any answer

Go away from this one too

[Schopenhauer365]

LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.

Do you think  BCA could be succesful?

[Huxleyfree]

LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.

Do you think  BCA could be succesful?

they have all the keys to make this project succesful

[DocSnyd3r]

LOL Litecoin did this and it already works.

Do you think  BCA could be succesful?

What would be a usecase which is not already there ten times. Maybe there will be a pump sometime bit I don't gamble.
I will sell as soon there is a mainnet, if ever.

Swaps are nice but why would I swap into this. I stick with Bitcoin that tech I can believe in they try to copy.

I alone could start a coin like this trust come through development and adoption, this has 0.

Coming from a guy who has some DOGE (because it is cool to have it) Guess what I will buy from potentially selling this.

[superbtc4376]

BCA Person out there-

Do you have a timeline so this doesn't look like a high school project? Soon doesn't work.

[Schopenhauer365]

What value have BCA already?

[BitcoinAtom_support]

BCA Person out there-

Do you have a timeline so this doesn't look like a high school project? Soon doesn't work.

Hey superbtc4376, it's the matter of few days only, perhaps even less. We will be launching asap. Thank you for your support.

[atracom]

What value have BCA already?

Around 34$, which is rather decent so far if compared to the start. I'm skeptical concerning bitcoin forks but this one shows good, not sure about technical, but at least PR background and underlayer, and this is what allowed it not to sink right after the birth.

[DocSnyd3r]

What value have BCA already?

Around 34$, which is rather decent so far if compared to the start. I'm skeptical concerning bitcoin forks but this one shows good, not sure about technical, but at least PR background and underlayer, and this is what allowed it not to sink right after the birth.

Birth? Do not forget that there is no coin yet without mainnet. So far marketing only and betting on the price of a coin that might exist in the future.

If you only care about marketing and price you are part of a ponzi scheme since you rely on the greater fool who will buy into that marketing.

[1Bullion]

Atom seems to be a new and unique project! I'll keep coins for some time before selling them) I wish good luck to the project! I think Atom will surprise me!

[atracom]

If you only care about marketing and price you are part of a ponzi scheme since you rely on the greater fool who will buy into that marketing.

I do not and I am not, since that small amount I hold is just the result of automatic deposit after the fork. But will take any money they give me, no matter where they're taken from: solid tech base or just pure marketing. That's what the cryptoworld look like nowadays, I believe.

[Joneskay]

Atom seems to be a new and unique project! I'll keep coins for some time before selling them) I wish good luck to the project! I think Atom will surprise me!

bI will keep them too because I want to see if the price rise

[Schopenhauer365]

What value have BCA already?

Around 34$, which is rather decent so far if compared to the start. I'm skeptical concerning bitcoin forks but this one shows good, not sure about technical, but at least PR background and underlayer, and this is what allowed it not to sink right after the birth.

do you think they will rise their value?

[bitcoinman93]

No full node wallet yet??
 

Should be ready by February 7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2515675.msg29331612#msg29331612

Based on what has been told in their telegram group i hope even for sooner release. I guess this Sunday/Monday make sense. The price of bca has been decreasing because of insecurity over the source and wallets release so I hope devs will bring an end to that saga. I guess their hybrid consensus is what causes the delay, it's a new thing to bitcoin code therefore they might be facing some last time difficulties to launch. It's normal that delays occur, I see no point to panic. Better to wait now and make conclusions later

...yeah....

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Try like 2011, maybe earlier. Novacoin. Peercoin. Kick it up to 2013... TEK, SYNC, TECH, FIRE, TRK,...... I could go to hundreds. Hybrid POS/POW is NOT NEW NEWS

I'm hoping you misunderstood, because if that's what they said, well, I'll be calling shenanigans. It's really beginning to look like this one's just another cash grab.

bro what I meant was the hybrid consensus along with atomic swaps through nodes potentially with lightning network, that's definitely a new thing. Or please navigate me if that's already implemented in some of the existing coins or forks, I'm always happy to learn new things. I think people in this thread are being too harsh on BCA developers, I have experiences what it takes to deliver the quality code and the last 1% always takes longest time. Especially if you're under the time pressure, time goes even faster. Let's just wait and see the outcome. If they take weeks more or deliver shitty product, then let's be harsh. But before that, I want to express my support to the team.