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April 09, 2014, 07:59:09 AM
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gerade mal in meinen Thrust geschaut:
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RenHoek 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-10-22   50.00000000   Reference   Hat mit fadenscheiniger Behauptung einen Vertragsrückzieher gemacht.
Kein seriöser Geschäftsmann, meiner Meinung nach!
Ich habe ihm nie was verkauft... und ich will solche Falschaussagen auch nicht in meiner Historie.. .wer löscht sowas  ?
Niemand.
Es hat ja wenigstens keine Auswirkungen auf dein Rating, wenn das jemand ist, der selbst nirgendwo in den Trust-Listen steht.
Ärgere dich nicht, ignorier' es einfach.

genaugenommen ist das Trustsytem ein Witz ! Warum ? Da ist eine Zahl.... basierend auf Settings die Du ohne weiteres nicht nachvollziehen kannst....
Also schaust Du Dir die Wertungen der User direkt an... und stellst fest: Ebay zu schlimmsten Zeiten: Rache-Bewertung über Rache-Bewertung.....

Und die Tatsache das niemand die Bewertungen prüft.... sorgt natürlich dafür das gerade bei aktiven Usern / Shop-Betreibern das ganze extreme Ausmaße annimmt.

Aber egal: Das Trustsystem ist toll... never touch a running System - Mit der Einstellung würden wir die Erde immer noch alle für eine Scheibe halten  !
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April 10, 2014, 01:04:47 PM
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Ist der Algorithmus nachdem der trust-score berechnet wird öffentlich?
Auf die Schnelle nichts dazu gefunden.

Bzw (wie) fließt der riskierte BTC Betrag darin ein?


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April 10, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
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Ist der Algorithmus nachdem der trust-score berechnet wird öffentlich?
Auf die Schnelle nichts dazu gefunden.

Bzw (wie) fließt der riskierte BTC Betrag darin ein?



Hab nur das folgende gefunden , ist aber mal angepasst worden :

New number in brackets? I thought it was the number of people that have trusted that user in your trust network, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

EDIT: Number of users directly in your trust list that have gave positive feedback?

One person in your trust network can increase the third number to infinity (maybe literally). The fourth number in parenthesis can't be manipulated so easily. It's a rough approximation of the number of trust points from distinct users per month. So if I rate someone 3 times in one month and 3 times in another month, the fourth number should be 6. But if I rate them 1000 times in one month, their fourth number should be ~5. (But it's actually only an approximation of this.)

I needed to get this number for the trust score anyway, so I thought I'd include it.

The trust score is currently calculated like this:
floor((min(fourth_number,10*months_since_first_positive_report)/10)^2*months_since_first_positive_report - distinct_scam_reporters * scam_factor)

Where scam_factor starts at 0.5 and increases by 1 if the newest scam report is less than 7 days old and by 3 if months_since_first_positive_report is less than 2.

It will be more clear in a couple months whether this is a good algorithm. I'll tweak it more then.

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April 10, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
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thx  Smiley
dachte doch ich hätte irgendwo mal eine Formel dazu gesehen.

Verstehe ich dich richtig dass die Formel im quote wahrscheinlich nicht mehr aktuell ist?
Wobei der BTC Betrag ja eh nicht darin einfließt

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November 08, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
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Trust-System wurde angepasst:

1. es gibt jetzt neutrale Ratings.
2. man kann User aus der Trust-Liste ausschließen, indem man ein ~ vor den Namen setzt.

I made three improvements to the Trust system:

Firstly, there is now a neutral rating type. Neutral ratings don't affect a person's trust score at all. On a person's trust page, positive ratings are bold, neutral ratings are italic, and negative ratings are red bold-italic.

Secondly, it is now possible to exclude users in your trust list. Prefix a person's name with a tilde character (~) if you want to exclude them. If you exclude someone, then you will never see that person's ratings as trusted, even if the person is trusted by other people in your trust network.

Exclusions also travel through the trust network. If one person in your trust network trusts someone and another person excludes them, then whether or not they're seen as trusted for you is decided using these rules:
1. If someone at a lower depth (ie, closer to your trust list) disagrees with someone at a higher depth, then the person at the lowest depth wins. Due to this, no one can overrule anything you put in your trust list directly.
2. If multiple people at the same depth disagree, then the rating type that is most popular among these people wins. For example, say that you have three people in your trust list. If two of them trust someone and one of them excludes that person, then the person will not be excluded.
3. If an equal number of people at the same depth include and exclude a person, then the person will be included.

Finally, I added an easier-to-understand way of viewing your trust network to the trust settings page. The number in parentheses is the number of people in the preceding (lower) depth level who trust the person minus the number of people at the preceding depth level who exclude that person. This view contains slightly less information than the hierarchical view -- there's a link to the old view at the bottom of the trust settings page.

Also, the maximum trust depth is now 4 instead of 3, though it's probably still not a good idea to go above 2.

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February 19, 2015, 12:20:57 AM
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Super, danke für diesen ausführlichen Beitrag
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October 04, 2017, 08:44:08 PM
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Finde das Trust System super. Auch die Beschreibung passt sehr gut.
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October 11, 2017, 07:16:29 PM
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Finde das System auch genial und bin auf mein Trustrating echt stolz


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October 18, 2017, 08:15:17 AM
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Danke für die Erklärung mit dem Trust-Netzwerk. War mir so gar nicht bewußt!

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