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Hello people. As a newbie /for some time ago/ I was wondering how the Activity point system is working. Of course you can find the formula in the rules but OK. You have to calculate every time and some people can't even understand it. So I just decided to make one Google Sheet where based on your registration day you can list all the "2 weeks period" (cycle) starting day and plan in the time when you can rank up. Now the Merit Points system is introduced and the game changes. Read the Merit section below. Infographic view on the bottom of this post, all the credit goes to 8Habits

IN ORDER TO RANK UP YOU NEED TO ACCUMULATE BOTH ACTIVITY AND MERIT POINTS AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS BELOW.
THE CALCULATOR IS BASED ON THE ACTIVITY POINTS REQUIREMENTS, BUT IF YOU DON'T MEET THE MERIT POINTS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RANK THE DATES WILL NOT BE CORRECT!




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Regarding the Activity points system >

Explanation:
  • After your registration you have 14 days cycles in which you can gain up to 14 Activity points.
  • Every post generates you 1 Activity point but in 14 days time span you can gain up to 14 Activity points even if you have more than 14 posts.
  • On the day 15 the cycle restarts and you can again collect your 14 points.
Interesting thing is if you have posts over the limit from the previous cycle, with the first comment in the new cycle you get the Activity points from the old posts you had in the previous cycle.
Example:  I had 28 Activity points and 33 comments before the end of the cycle, with my first post in the new cycle my Activity points went up to 34, the same amount as my posts.

Extra info here>
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?




Regarding the Merit points system >


From 25.01.18 you have to collect Merit point together with the activity points in order to Rank-up. This was done to increase the quality of the posts and to prevent the spam.
Here is the new requirements for ranking up according to the forum Administrator- theymos. This is the copy from the Merit & new rank requirements topic, links you will find in extra info section
"In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank                                Required activity                     Required merit
Brand new.....................................0...................................... .........0
Newbie..........................................1.............................. .................0
Jr Member.....................................30.................................. ............0
Member.........................................60.............................. ...............10
Full Member...................................120................................... ........100
Sr. Member....................................240.................................. .........250
Hero Member.................................480..................................... .......500
Legendary Random in the range.......775-1030....................................1000

Q/A Section:


Q: Well, how to collect Merit points?
A: "You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points you get as sMerti (sendable Merit) and they can be sent by you to other people."

Q: Who is giving these points?
A: There will be certain people called "merit sources" which will give points to quality posts. They are 49 at the moment I wrote the , see Merit Statistics link below. In addition according your rank and the merit points you have received you can also give to posts you like, so we can say that everyone can give Merit.

Q: How many points I have ?
A: Follow the link Check your merit, there you can check your points and there will be listed also the points you have recieved and for which post and the points you have given.

Q: I want to know more about the Merit Points System
A: You have to follow the Merit & new rank requirements link below, it's a long discusion there.

Extra info >
Merit & new rank requirements
Check your merit
Merit Statistics



Regarding the Trust system >

Here is how theymos explained the system:

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Trust: 1: -0 / +12(3)
The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts.

These scores are taken from your trust network. They are not global scores. You can edit your trust network here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
If your trust depth is set to 2 (the default), you will trust feedback by people you trust, people they trust, and people they trust. I might change the default in the future; we'll see how this works. Your trust list is public.

On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines:
- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.

If your trust list is totally empty, you trust "DefaultTrust", which includes some trustworthy people that I'll select. But if you add anyone to your trust list, even if they don't trust anyone, DefaultTrust will no longer be considered part of your trust list.

Note: Information is taken from the Trust rules post.

Extra info>
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0



 Infographic - Merit & new rank requirements, all the credit goes to[/u] 8Habits:
Link to the original thread.

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I'll will keep updating this topic, if you want me to add more info, please let men know.

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December 06, 2017, 10:46:07 AM
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Here is a little gem of knowledge that's often omitted from all activity calculator discussion: If you make more than 14 posts a fortnight, they don't go to waste. The excess posts will count as additional activity in the future activity periods where you've made less than 14 posts.

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December 20, 2017, 07:52:27 AM
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The calculations looks correct till now.Got my Activity points today as planned so I guess first test has been passed successfully.

Here is a little gem of knowledge that's often omitted from all activity calculator discussion: If you make more than 14 posts a fortnight, they don't go to waste. The excess posts will count as additional activity in the future activity periods where you've made less than 14 posts.

Yeah just experienced it myself that if you post more than 14 post per 2 weeks the extra posts automatically generate Activity points after your first comment in the new 2 weeks time span. This is great.


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January 05, 2018, 02:55:56 PM
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Here is a little gem of knowledge that's often omitted from all activity calculator discussion: If you make more than 14 posts a fortnight, they don't go to waste. The excess posts will count as additional activity in the future activity periods where you've made less than 14 posts.

Oh man, this is great to know! Explains how I got more Activity immediately after recalculation took place.

Thanks for the calculator OP. Fun to play with.
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January 11, 2018, 02:59:26 AM
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Yeah I observe it.too. I thought my excess posts will be taken as granted but it was been carried out on the following cut off date!!!
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I like your application, it's a very useful tool that I've been missing till now. Thanks a lot!
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I like your app, after trying it out I'm not so active in this forum Cheesy
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January 11, 2018, 07:12:40 PM
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The system are very much considerable.... I mean excess post won't go to waste instead they are like reserve for next date..... Surprising!!!!
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January 11, 2018, 07:14:05 PM
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Man, I've been looking for something like this forever. The ranking system here often makes no sense to me.

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Thank you for this precision! It really helps me as a newbie.
I also foudn this post about rank. I hope it can help!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.msg1861412#msg1861412

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This helped me, and I am about to become a Jr. Member. Yea. Grin
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January 12, 2018, 04:43:57 AM
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Here is a little gem of knowledge that's often omitted from all activity calculator discussion: If you make more than 14 posts a fortnight, they don't go to waste. The excess posts will count as additional activity in the future activity periods where you've made less than 14 posts.
I was enlightened now, thanks for the information. This explains the additional count i experienced before. I thought the website just experiencing error and my comment got posted twice. So i guess 14posts per week is not a limitation, the excess will still be used on the future. I've been thinking to post just the exact 14 post so that others won't get wasted, i understand now.

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January 12, 2018, 06:28:39 AM
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Wow it enlightens me. Thanks for this post. I now understand how does activity points work. So grateful this post helps a lot for newbies like me. I really thought that you need to post the exact 14posts per 2weeks.
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January 12, 2018, 07:21:28 AM
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Interesting. If you post correctly, it will take you just over 2 years to level up to Legendary. When I started out a few years ago, I just posted frequently, because I liked the forum and before I knew it, I reached Legendary. The secret to the success for this, is not to post on the forum to rank up. Come in daily and look for something that interest you and then just chat about it or ask questions to gain more knowledge. 

Time goes by very quickly and before you know it, you will be a Legendary member of this forum.  ^smile^

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January 12, 2018, 09:28:11 AM
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Interesting. If you post correctly, it will take you just over 2 years to level up to Legendary. When I started out a few years ago, I just posted frequently, because I liked the forum and before I knew it, I reached Legendary. The secret to the success for this, is not to post on the forum to rank up. Come in daily and look for something that interest you and then just chat about it or ask questions to gain more knowledge.  

Time goes by very quickly and before you know it, you will be a Legendary member of this forum.  ^smile^

Keep in mind that legendary is a bit more tricky >
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You are guaranteed to become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity, but the exact point in this range at which you become Legendary is random per user.

I am happy that you people find the calculator useful Smiley

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Im pretty sure every 2 weeks you can have 14 activity points so its like 7/7 ..... 7 points a week . so to get full member should be at 4.5 months . you need 126 points of activity. dont worry about that you will get it soon.join some bounty campains too will do good for you.

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January 15, 2018, 11:34:05 PM
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You can get one activity every time you post but its maximum if 14 and it will accumulate every 2weeks and in jr member you need 30 activity so atleast 1month,member 2months,full member 4months and so on be because every rank the actuvity required will be double.

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Basically you have to stay active and contribute a minimum amount of posts over time

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You can accumulate 14 activity every 2weeks so 1activity everyday and when you reach 30 you will be promoted to jr. Member and then multiply it buy two to be member and so on

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January 25, 2018, 09:58:36 AM
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Now the game has changed and for the newcomers coming only for the bounties it will be difficult. Now you have to contribute to the forum and earn Merit points in order to rank-up.
I have updated the calculator with the Merit point system. More information you will find in the calculator Smiley
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