Just got off the phone with Bitmain re next batch of S9

[iohen]

If anyone is concerned about the EU import tax with customs authorities in (NOT VAT), I sent an email to the general customs department in Prague, requiring the correct import designation code (as what type of goods the miners are supposed to be presented to the customs authority) and the amount in % the EU authorities will ask.

As I already did my search in the customs index and the miners - being basically an integrated electronics cirtuit, with operation memory, processors, etc. can be applied the designation code 8542311100, which does not require any customs tax at all (coming from China). But will confirm as soon as I get an answer.

I know there are guys from Poland, which should be the same as here in Czech Republic, am not sure how it is in the UK and US. Anyone can pitch in and leave their own experience, so everyone is prepared when the letter comes, that your miners have been confiscated and that the customs office needs explanations and some paperwork.


This is the link to the certificates for the Antminer S9. For EU, the CE and FCC certificates might be needed. So have them ready to make the process at the customs office as smooth as possible.

https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/224442167-Certificate-of-Conformity-for-S9.

[nemopowertools]

If anyone is concerned about the EU import tax with customs authorities in (NOT VAT), I sent an email to the general customs department in Prague, requiring the correct import designation code (as what type of goods the miners are supposed to be presented to the customs authority) and the amount in % the EU authorities will ask.

As I already did my search in the customs index and the miners - being basically an integrated electronics cirtuit, with operation memory, processors, etc. can be applied the designation code 8542311100, which does not require any customs tax at all (coming from China). But will confirm as soon as I get an answer.

I know there are guys from Poland, which should be the same as here in Czech Republic, am not sure how it is in the UK and US. Anyone can pitch in and leave their own experience, so everyone is prepared when the letter comes, that your miners have been confiscated and that the customs office needs explanations and some paperwork.


This is the link to the certificates for the Antminer S9. For EU, the CE and FCC certificates might be needed. So have them ready to make the process at the customs office as smooth as possible.

https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/224442167-Certificate-of-Conformity-for-S9.

Thank you Iohen, this is very useful information.
Amstellodamois: We will get standard insurance for shipping from the shipping company. 

[iohen]

For anyone interested to follow it up, this is the EU customs index and the suggested designation code, found it in English as well  

But as I said in my last post, will confirm if it is correct

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&Taric=8542311100&EndPub=&Domain=TARIC&MeasText=&Offset=0&Area=CN&ShowMatchingGoods=&callbackuri=CBU-7&Regulation=&LangDescr=cs&MeasType=&textSearch=&StartPub=&SimDate=20180107&measStartDat=&OrderNum=&GoodsText=&search_text=goods&ExpandAll=&measEndDat=

[Amstellodamois]

iohen> What's the VAT in CZ?

I'm thinking it would be interesting to ship a batch into one low-VAT country, and then dispatch to EU buyers.

[iohen]

iohen> What's the VAT in CZ?

I'm thinking it would be interested to ship a batch into one low-VAT country, and then dispatch to EU buyers.

The VAT is 21%, not a low VAT country.

If everything is supposed to be transparent and correct, and also importing through official channels, there is no way around the EU taxation.

Nevertheless, I would like to join up in your venture. The relationship between businesses in the EU (both must be VAT registered) is tax free. Get in touch with me through PM or my email iohen@seznam.cz and we can discuss some details about your plans.

Take care

Jan

[Amstellodamois]

The relationship between businesses in the EU (both must be VAT registered) is tax free.

I was thinking about natural persons, actually. If someone was to import them to country A and then dispatch them throughout the EU, all units would be taxed under the rate of country A.

But it might not be worth the trouble. Still, saving on delivery...maybe?

[Elix9]

I'm also curious how the warranty situation would work out. If we had an issue with a unit, would we be able to reconcile it directly with Bitmain?

[Amstellodamois]

[Mode=Stage fright]Ahem! Guys, I'd like to submit an idea...[/Mode]

While I want to believe Nimo's offer is legit and I try not to imagine the worse whenever I see an opportunity, I've been wondering about what sort of guarantee we could set up. While the escrow is one side of the story (i.e. make sure the supplier gets his million), how can we make sure the goods would actually be shipped to us in the end?

Nimo, would you find it acceptable if the miners were delivered directly to a parcel forwarding company in China or HK? Or possibly DHL/Fedex/Whatever, I assume they'd be happy to do some custom service to make four hundred times 50 bucks.

[micro-mining]

Hi Nimo, Just to let you know i received a PM from a suspicious account that has 0 posts and "suspicious" username similar to yours. Can you please check and report if spam.

https://imgur.com/a/9NhyS

[iohen]

Hi Nimo, Just to let you know i received a PM from a suspicious account that has 0 posts and "suspicious" username similar to yours. Can you please check and report if spam.

https://imgur.com/a/9NhyS

wow, this is hardcore - makes me want to puke, the web admins SHOULD do something about this

[micro-mining]

Hi Nimo, Just to let you know i received a PM from a suspicious account that has 0 posts and "suspicious" username similar to yours. Can you please check and report if spam.

https://imgur.com/a/9NhyS

wow, this is hardcore - makes me want to puke, the web admins SHOULD do something about this

Yeah, its really really annoying.. Can't imagine how many people have been burned in these situations by these scammers.

[nemopowertools]

Hi Nimo, Just to let you know i received a PM from a suspicious account that has 0 posts and "suspicious" username similar to yours. Can you please check and report if spam.

https://imgur.com/a/9NhyS

wow, this is hardcore - makes me want to puke, the web admins SHOULD do something about this

Yeah, its really really annoying.. Can't imagine how many people have been burned in these situations by these scammers.

That account is NOT MINE.
Do not send any money to this guy. We don't yet have an escrow in place and and the list is still not completed (still missing ~50 to make it to the 500 mark).

When we do finish setting up the list we will inform you via Email and send the full documents and escrow terms.

Admins should check who opened this account and delete it / ban the IP.
My phone number is (415) 347-5970 and I'm currently in PST time zone. If you're unsure about something, CALL ME before transferring any money related to this group buy.

[nemopowertools]

I emailed everyone on the email list about this. Hope nobody sent any money to this guy.
Thanks for the heads up.

[inexile]

I’m n for 50

[coma24]

Just added 5 to the signup (first post here), also in NJ. Would be happy to have the units sent to a single east coast location and then farmed out appropriately via Philipma.

Can you address how warranty issues would be handled?

[tankengine9]

hi nimo

i am from toronto and i would like to partake in this group buy

i am interested in 5 units

[samm23]

I emailed everyone on the email list about this. Hope nobody sent any money to this guy.
Thanks for the heads up.

I added my name to the list interested in 10 units.

[ikerbals]

I would like to purchase one, USA.

[philipma1957]

A thief trying to scam be careful

my name is

philipma1957   = real
philippma1957 = fake

please tag the fake
and I am NOT doing escrow







So

How many units for east coast?

If I get a direct shipment from  Hong Kong it will be say 20  or more pieces that is way over 2500usd.

Which means 3% Import

And if  I re-ship each piece would be 30-40 with proper insurance.

So 2445 a unit add 75 for import tax  is 2520 and 30 - 40 re ship makes it too costly.

I think I will pass

[rnuvo]

Is this still a go? I’m interested as well!