Just got off the phone with Bitmain re next batch of S9

[b0mbsquad]

Latest update from bitmain

https://ibb.co/gaqPnR

Put me down for one single unit. I sent you a text message about it as well. Thanks for your help.

[carnut]

Thank you for the updates, Nemo.

[Amstellodamois]

can you please update us on escrow and shipping? at this point we will have to be highly trusting in you as they are going to from bitmain to your warehouse and then shipped to all of us or possible even stopping again before coming to us

This.

Again, why wouldn't you have the 700 pieces delivered to DHL HK directly?

I guess deal with Bitmain is that they ship to one address. This address has to be OP warehouse address.
Otherwise we would just buy it from Bitmain outselves.

Yes, they require a single payment and a single address to ship to. Shipping to HK is the easiest option.

...which is completely in line with my proposal of having all units shipped to a DHL HK warehouse or any parcel forwarding company!

[iohen]

If anyone is concerned about the EU import tax with customs authorities in (NOT VAT), I sent an email to the general customs department in Prague, requiring the correct import designation code (as what type of goods the miners are supposed to be presented to the customs authority) and the amount in % the EU authorities will ask.

I have an update about this topic.

I have an official statement in hand that states, that the Antminers should be designated under the code HS 8471490000.

Which basically means:
=================
Automatic data-processing machines and units thereof; magnetic or optical readers, machines for transcribing data onto data media in coded form and machines for processing such data, not elsewhere specified or included
- Other automatic data-processing machines
- - Other, presented in the form of systems

The tax duty in EU is 0%.

Can send the statement to anyone, is in Czech language, though. But I am sure you won't have any issues with the customs department, if you label the miners under the HS code stated above.

Don't forget, you need the certification and import declaration for the PSU as well, incl. their CE & FCC certificates.

[iohen]

@Nimo

Escrow process

There are several aspects of the Escrow process that are unclear to me, Nimo. I know you are currently searching for a suitable escrow provider, so you still have enough time to set everything up correctly.

I came into contact with escrow.com, about a different issue, but they seem to be very flexible and eager to get their hands on an accompanying fee, of course

Please let me know how YOU imagine the escrow process stages will happen.

What I imagine:

1. You send out invoices under your LLC inviting everyone to sign in (to an escrow) as a buyer, with you as the sole seller.
2. The escrow will collect into their account according to your issued invoices, in a set timeframe.

(I got in touch with escrow.com about the issue - how long can an escrow operation stay open. Their answer was for 3 years, afterwards, they will charge some extra fees.)

3. You check if all the amounts were paid in full.

... but then what???

The options on a typical escrow are to hold the funds until the buyers receives the goods. Then there is a set of options that can follow, release the funds to you when:
a) shipping documents (of DHL, or which ever courier) are transfered to the escrow
b) the buyer receives the goods and has a certain amount of time to inturn inform the escrow that everything in order and they then release the funds to you.

I also imagine, that you won't fork out 2500x700 units out of your own pocket just waiting for the the payments to arrive (or not to arrive).

I also guess there will be some duds or bad units inside the batch, that will fail during testing, etc., and you could thereby get stuck dealing with a) some returns and b) declined (unreleased) funds by the escrow.

Am not sure if you thought this whole thing through. Or maybe you have and are simply waiting what the escrow says and how we, as a group will than react to the news.

take care

Jan

[dragospd]

If anyone is concerned about the EU import tax with customs authorities in (NOT VAT), I sent an email to the general customs department in Prague, requiring the correct import designation code (as what type of goods the miners are supposed to be presented to the customs authority) and the amount in % the EU authorities will ask.

I have an update about this topic.

I have an official statement in hand that states, that the Antminers should be designated under the code HS 8471490000.

Which basically means:
=================
Automatic data-processing machines and units thereof; magnetic or optical readers, machines for transcribing data onto data media in coded form and machines for processing such data, not elsewhere specified or included
- Other automatic data-processing machines
- - Other, presented in the form of systems

The tax duty in EU is 0%.

Can send the statement to anyone, is in Czech language, though. But I am sure you won't have any issues with the customs department, if you label the miners under the HS code stated above.

Don't forget, you need the certification and import declaration for the PSU as well, incl. their CE & FCC certificates.

Do you mean:

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&Taric=8471490000&EndPub=&Domain=TARIC&MeasText=&Offset=0&Area=&ShowMatchingGoods=&callbackuri=CBU-2&Regulation=&LangDescr=en&MeasType=&textSearch=&StartPub=&SimDate=20180110&measStartDat=&OrderNum=&GoodsText=&search_text=goods&ExpandAll=&measEndDat=


Can't see China though...

[iohen]

@Dragospd

Hello, you can input CN as the origin and also the county where the units will be shipped from.

No difference in the percentage, still 0%

[crypto_curious]

Several of you already met me in SF and I have a couple meetings tomorrow. Whoever still wants to drop by and look at the papers / list / logistic plan is welcome to ping me this week and come.

We have 962 miners accounted for. I'm waiting to get a confirmation about exactly how many we can get.

Can you share, who have visited you?
Whoever visited Nimo, can they confirm that they have seen you? Please just reply here that you've seen with OP in person.
Please do it, for sake of all of us, because without trust this group deal may fall through.

[CryptoHodler30]

+1 it seems we are going to need to trust and not sure how I feel about that. I would come meet you Nimo but I'm in FL

[Tekno2020]

Nemo, Any update on your progress?

[Cryptohasher76]

Nemo, Any update on your progress?

  look on page 8.

https://ibb.co/gaqPnR

[win07]

Several of you already met me in SF and I have a couple meetings tomorrow. Whoever still wants to drop by and look at the papers / list / logistic plan is welcome to ping me this week and come.

We have 962 miners accounted for. I'm waiting to get a confirmation about exactly how many we can get.

Can you share, who have visited you?
Whoever visited Nimo, can they confirm that they have seen you? Please just reply here that you've seen with OP in person.
Please do it, for sake of all of us, because without trust this group deal may fall through.

Can someone confirm this?

[stringinator]

Could Nimo do a Web-ex or Skype conference?  Like a business presentation with video and Q&A.  Just thinking out loud...

[nemopowertools]

Could Nimo do a Web-ex or Skype conference?  Like a business presentation with video and Q&A.  Just thinking out loud...

Yes, we can do that once bitmain confirms the order.
People who met me, if you're around please confirm that I'm a real person (:

[User46759]

Yup can confirm I met Nimo in SF. His deal looks solid and contacts in china are real.



Mike

@Mikeswildcreations.com

[Kapz786]

Yup can confirm I met Nimo in SF. His deal looks solid and contacts in china are real.



Mike

@Mikeswildcreations.com

Anyone who has been a member on this forum longer than 60 seconds want to confirm?

Also your domain doesn't work

[nemopowertools]

Yup can confirm I met Nimo in SF. His deal looks solid and contacts in china are real.



Mike

@Mikeswildcreations.com

Anyone who has been a member on this forum longer than 60 seconds want to confirm?

Also your domain doesn't work

Hope this helps?
https://ibb.co/i9W3Gm

I'm also avilable on skype: n.rotem for video chat this weekend.

[markj113]

Yup can confirm I met Nimo in SF. His deal looks solid and contacts in china are real.



Mike

@Mikeswildcreations.com

People like this make me think this is nothing but a scam.

Guy registers then 6 minutes later he finds this thread and is confirming the OP's identity.

There is also a disproportionate number of newbies and 1 post accounts jumping on board and ordering stupid number of miners probably in a bid to keep bumping this thread to the top and rope in a few muppets to hand over their cash.

This just looks suspicious to me:

[InvisibleKnight]

Yup can confirm I met Nimo in SF. His deal looks solid and contacts in china are real.



Mike

@Mikeswildcreations.com

People like this make me think this is nothing but a scam.

Guy registers then 6 minutes later he finds this thread and is confirming the OP's identity.

There is also a disproportionate number of newbies and 1 post accounts jumping on board and ordering stupid number of miners probably in a bid to keep bumping this thread to the top and rope in a few muppets to hand over their cash.

This just looks suspicious to me:

https://i.imgur.com/ZFmoOH7.png

Your list is off, 200+ units people can order on their own and you don't consider PM only people here and on Reddit. The guy mentioned the group buy on Reddit so I imagine people are coming from there.
Due to s9 shortage at human prices all around the world people have registered only for this group buy.

[markj113]

Your list is off, 200+ units people can order on their own and you don't consider PM only people here and on Reddit. The guy mentioned the group buy on Reddit so I imagine people are coming from there.
Due to s9 shortage at human prices all around the world people have registered only for this group buy.

My list is not off, I have just summarised what all the newbie members have posted.

I am not claiming every newbie account is dodgy but I am pretty sure many are.  Also a post on Reddit does not make it legit.

Top 4 newbie orders = over $1.8 million