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January 16, 2018, 10:31:25 PM
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I am a complete newbie in this thing.. how does this really work?
I would suggest to have a look into our introduction video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRDK5aqiP1U
Our CEO Dr. Yassin Hankir is doing a great job there.

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January 17, 2018, 07:52:38 PM
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"With your mission to make digital currency more attractive & accessible in European continent, I believe in the project with diverse team of AI, UX, Tech, Finance, and Marketing experts. Bravoòooo.
Thanks for your nice words!

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January 19, 2018, 02:08:33 PM
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Great project idea
Thank you!

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January 19, 2018, 04:44:32 PM
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Hi all,

has anyone of you guys bought some tokens on their pre-sale?
Is there anything else than MEW to keep the tokens?

@Tobson2: How about listing on coinmarketcap.com later this year?

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January 19, 2018, 06:18:02 PM
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Hi all,

has anyone of you guys bought some tokens on their pre-sale?
Is there anything else than MEW to keep the tokens?

@Tobson2: How about listing on coinmarketcap.com later this year?

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MEW is perfect to keep the tokens.

coinmarketcap is a great idea, but first we need to close this ICO. Wink

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January 19, 2018, 11:41:57 PM
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How much in fees to users pay when they buy crypto?

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January 20, 2018, 12:00:14 PM
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You have success in pre sale ..
whether ico schedule does not change?..fixed date 09 february Huh
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January 21, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
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How much in fees to users pay when they buy crypto?
We'll orientate on other market platforms like Coinbase and Kraken, this will definitely vary over the time.

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January 21, 2018, 01:14:34 PM
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You have success in pre sale ..
whether ico schedule does not change?..fixed date 09 february Huh
Yes we'll stick with the 9th of February for now. Have a lot of stuff to prepare for that happening. Smiley

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January 21, 2018, 06:45:51 PM
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I am thinking to invest but i have some questions.

You sold out at presale in 7 hours, how many token did you sell or how much eth/fiat did you get? What was you soft cap and did you achieve it?

What is the burning ratio of tokens? %1 of the transactions? %0,1 of the transactions?

Last of all, what will be the things you are asking some tokens for it? What are you offering for Premium features? Or your all app is based on a monthly subscription?

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January 21, 2018, 07:15:31 PM
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I am thinking to invest but i have some questions.

You sold out at presale in 7 hours, how many token did you sell or how much eth/fiat did you get? What was you soft cap and did you achieve it?

What is the burning ratio of tokens? %1 of the transactions? %0,1 of the transactions?

Last of all, what will be the things you are asking some tokens for it? What are you offering for Premium features? Or your all app is based on a monthly subscription?
We sold 500,000,000 tokens in the Pre-Sale. The softcap was at 50,000,000, so yes it is reached. Smiley

The burn ratio depends over the time, best have a look in our token model for details.

Premium features will be e.g. our AI algorithm for crypto currencies.

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January 23, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
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I think it is great that nobody will answer the simple question of


How much do users of the app pay in fees if they buy crypto.


Questions about "when moon",  "how do I give you my money" ect are answered quickly.


inb4 dismissive indirect answer



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January 23, 2018, 10:10:04 AM
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I think it is great that nobody will answer the simple question of


How much do users of the app pay in fees if they buy crypto.


Questions about "when moon",  "how do I give you my money" ect are answered quickly.


inb4 dismissive indirect answer



What do you mean with not answer? You can see a possible price model in the token model quite clearly. That example has a tx fee of 7.5% (including spread) for a transfer to crypto, which is a common market price compared to Coinbase and Kraken (if you add their hidden fees).

Btw we never answered a "when moon" question. Wink

Best regards,
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January 23, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
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THANK YOU, savedroid Community!
Watch our short video. We thank you all, for the incredible support!

https://medium.com/@ico_8796/thank-you-savedroid-community-e5062d98062f

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January 23, 2018, 05:17:09 PM
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#airdrop 100 token
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January 23, 2018, 06:55:45 PM
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What do you mean with not answer? You can see our current assumptions in the token model quite clearly. That has a tx fee of 7.5% (including spread) for a transfer to crypto, which is a common market price compared to Coinbase and Kraken (if you add their hidden fees).

Btw we never answered a "when moon" question. Wink

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No it is not clear, it is buiried under all kinds of figures, numbers infographics and feel good pumpy pumpy marketing, clouded by sockpuppet shill accounts on bitcoin talk and telegram.


I mean  not answer as in, other questions answered and this one was not, as if it was not read. You know when you are asking for money how you typicaly answer questions, even if they have been answered before and if you want to quote the whitepepe documentation then you quote the exact page and paragraph since you are the one asking for money here.  Only after asking the question again was it even approched, otherwise it would have been swept under the rug, ignored and the bounty, pumpy pumpy questions asked by the outsourced sockpuppet service would continue.

Now lets have a look at those  "common market practice" numbers. Can you please breakdown how coinbase and kraken charge 7.5% , and that is not a tx fee, a tx fee is a fee on a blockchain transaction. You mean a trade fee I think. So you mean to tell me fees which are 0.2 - 0.5% plus spread is 7.5% ? Ok, lets have a look.


All prices taken from bitcoinwisdom.com orderbook display




Bitfinex BUY 11190 sell 11192 to sometimes a 10$ spread if you just watch the orderbook
7.5 % of 11190$ = 839,25 $ We dont know if there is a fee or spread when buying the tokens in order
to pay this 7.5% or a tx fee to transfer to the app. Lets just say that it is "free".


Bitfinex with a 10$ and the trade fees (hidden?) We will just use taker, which is the higher fee of 0.2%
0.2% of 11190$ = 22,38$ + 10$ spread = 32,38$ for 1 bitcoin vs. 7.5% = 839,25$

ok great, bitfinex is offshore and made for trading, not for your average noob to buy crypto and
wait for moon in a savings app. Alright lets check out coinbase. 1.5% or 3.99% with credit card

The spread is large 11318$ Sell 10984$ Buy 334$ spread
Plus the trade fee 1.5% or 3.99% with Credit Card 169,77$ or 451,58$ ! with credit card
7.5% = 848,85$ Even if you add the spread 334$ and use a credit card 451,58$ (785,58$) 7.5% is still more than
a small ammount higher.

Ok ok, maybe those are just the worst examples possible, lets try bitstamp, you can send a typical SEPA transaction to bitstamp and
they got there start in the EU.
Sell 11231$ buy 11225$ maybe sometimes a 10$ spread
They have a 0.25% trade fee , they also have a 0.5% deposit fee and a 0.09% withdraw fee
Lets just add all those up to 0,84% per trade, even though we wont withdraw or deposit each time
we can still use it just for this example. Again we are going to buy one bitcoin.
94,34$ fees plus the 10$ spread 104,34$ sounds like a lot right?
7.5% fees which is " common market price compared to Coinbase and Kraken (if you add their hidden fees)"
842,32$

Im just trying to find the " common market price compared to Coinbase and Kraken (if you add their hidden fees)"
that is anywhere near 7.5% , maybe you can break down the hidden fees or whatever it is you see that gets to 7.5%.


Let us also keep in mind this is a "savings app" that charges 7.5% off the top................  per trade




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January 23, 2018, 07:38:41 PM
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How can i get details to participate on bounty and airdrop?
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January 23, 2018, 09:18:31 PM
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good luck for this interest project
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January 24, 2018, 10:03:33 AM
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How can i get details to participate on bounty and airdrop?
The bounty thread can be found over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2700275.0

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January 24, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
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No it is not clear, it is buiried under all kinds of figures, numbers infographics and feel good pumpy pumpy marketing, clouded by sockpuppet shill accounts on bitcoin talk and telegram.


I mean  not answer as in, other questions answered and this one was not, as if it was not read. You know when you are asking for money how you typicaly answer questions, even if they have been answered before and if you want to quote the whitepepe documentation then you quote the exact page and paragraph since you are the one asking for money here.  Only after asking the question again was it even approched, otherwise it would have been swept under the rug, ignored and the bounty, pumpy pumpy questions asked by the outsourced sockpuppet service would continue.

I'm really sorry if we have overseen your question. There are currently 15,000 members in the Telegram group, we tr really hard to answer every single question and have established a 24/7 support. So, no reason to bring this on a personal level. Wink


Im just trying to find the " common market price compared to Coinbase and Kraken (if you add their hidden fees)"
that is anywhere near 7.5% , maybe you can break down the hidden fees or whatever it is you see that gets to 7.5%.
First of all, all transfers will be made via credit/debit card, as you've read all information you should be aware of that and also compare with these prices. Wink

As already mentioned we see our competition in UX oriented exchanges like Coinbase, not Bitfinex, nor Bitstamp.

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