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March 28, 2018, 07:21:27 PM
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Browsing through the Telegraph Chat, I see similar bullshit happening over there. Many of same questions being asked there as here. Ket-Gav (Keti-Gav) and Tommy Cash seem to just pull answers out their asses. Similar question about when Rogers wheel is going to start; one answers 1-1/2 months, the other, within 10 days. People asking about commission; big announcement within one week but appears they have made similar promises earlier that fell through.
One interesting thing I noticed is that they are saying that commissions only begin at end of February. I was of the notion that the commission pool was started at the very beginning of ticket sales.
Seems they have lost 200-400 members. I am assuming that these were all perhaps members that asked too many questions. There definitely isn't any information allowed over there which we see posted here.

It is absolutly clear that you is from scammer team! Nothing clear only bla-bla, bullshit and other ravings!

Rogers wheel is going to start soon and we wrote that do the last technical settings of the game. Everything is in accordance with the roadmap.
We answer about commission and people understand! Not you, of course, because your task is to bla-bla there without the end.

So, stop your heinous lying!

ket-gav, I don't expect you to have the capacity to separate fact from fiction so no need to respond.
This shows that there is a huge number of members who are no longer with the group and that people on chat are taking notice. Whather it's because they don't believe in the project or have been banned for asking to many questions, who knows. Sure does seem like an unusually high number of people to disappear. Makes one wonder doesn't it?

200 members gone
https://postimg.org/image/v7xeff9rf/

400 members gone
https://postimg.org/image/4zm9q2ct7/

This is to simply show that despite what is written in Whitepaper

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At  the  date  of  the  platform  launch  one  ticket  costs  USD  2.00,  a  sum  that millions of players around the world are accustomed to

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Sales commission is distributed after each and every drawing based on the smart contract, regardless of the volume of ticket sales.

one of their admins indicates that commissions will only be paid from the end of February instead of from launch date as previously stated. Obviously, this would mean then that nearly two months of commissions are off limit to the investors. Would it not?

February commission
https://postimg.org/image/vxg6rxn7f/

This simply implies as I stated that keti-gav and Tommy Cash have two entirely different ideas on when things might be happening which would indicate very poor communication between team players. Would it not be easier to just say, 'I don't know for sure, this is just something I pulled out of my ass?

Rogers 10 days
https://postimg.org/image/qnb806ktn/

Rogers 30 to 45 days
https://postimg.org/image/5qezvlf3v/

You know, these aren't accusations. They are just discrepancies which can all be attributed to the Fire Lotto team. Absolutely ridiculous.

BTW, I already know you'll say the screenshots are fake, so save your breath.
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March 28, 2018, 08:37:49 PM
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The list of Fire Lotto Scammers


1. Roman Demidov Registered January 09/2108 10 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @RomanDemidov Twitter: https://twitter.com/RomanPlatinovy

2. ket_gav  Registered December 12/2017 441 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Keti_Gav  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ketgav

3. Tommy Cash Registered January 15/2018 157 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Tommy_guns

4.  Dmitry Griz Registered January 13/2018 143 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078;sa=showPosts

Telegram : @DiGrits

5. Deterok018 Registered December 27/2017 284 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Ghost019

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March 28, 2018, 08:49:45 PM
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The list of Fire Lotto Scammers


1. Roman Demidov Registered January 09/2108 10 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @RomanDemidov Twitter: https://twitter.com/RomanPlatinovy

2. ket_gav  Registered December 12/2017 441 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Keti_Gav  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ketgav

3. Tommy Cash Registered January 15/2018 157 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Tommy_guns

4.  Dmitry Griz Registered January 13/2018 143 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078;sa=showPosts

Telegram : @DiGrits

5. Deterok018 Registered December 27/2017 284 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Ghost019



LIER, SCAMMER AND ACCOUNT SELLER

https://image.ibb.co/jyFYZn/image.png
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March 28, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
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The list of Fire Lotto Scammers


1. Roman Demidov Registered January 09/2108 10 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @RomanDemidov Twitter: https://twitter.com/RomanPlatinovy

2. ket_gav  Registered December 12/2017 441 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Keti_Gav  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ketgav

3. Tommy Cash Registered January 15/2018 157 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Tommy_guns

4.  Dmitry Griz Registered January 13/2018 143 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078;sa=showPosts

Telegram : @DiGrits

5. Deterok018 Registered December 27/2017 284 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566;sa=showPosts

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Great info. Now investors will know who stole their money. Thanks.
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March 28, 2018, 09:13:05 PM
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Browsing through the Telegraph Chat, I see similar bullshit happening over there. Many of same questions being asked there as here. Ket-Gav (Keti-Gav) and Tommy Cash seem to just pull answers out their asses. Similar question about when Rogers wheel is going to start; one answers 1-1/2 months, the other, within 10 days. People asking about commission; big announcement within one week but appears they have made similar promises earlier that fell through.
One interesting thing I noticed is that they are saying that commissions only begin at end of February. I was of the notion that the commission pool was started at the very beginning of ticket sales.
Seems they have lost 200-400 members. I am assuming that these were all perhaps members that asked too many questions. There definitely isn't any information allowed over there which we see posted here.

It is absolutly clear that you is from scammer team! Nothing clear only bla-bla, bullshit and other ravings!

Rogers wheel is going to start soon and we wrote that do the last technical settings of the game. Everything is in accordance with the roadmap.
We answer about commission and people understand! Not you, of course, because your task is to bla-bla there without the end.

So, stop your heinous lying!

ket-gav, I don't expect you to have the capacity to separate fact from fiction so no need to respond.
This shows that there is a huge number of members who are no longer with the group and that people on chat are taking notice. Whather it's because they don't believe in the project or have been banned for asking to many questions, who knows. Sure does seem like an unusually high number of people to disappear. Makes one wonder doesn't it?

200 members gone
https://postimg.org/image/v7xeff9rf/

400 members gone
https://postimg.org/image/4zm9q2ct7/

This is to simply show that despite what is written in Whitepaper

Quote
At  the  date  of  the  platform  launch  one  ticket  costs  USD  2.00,  a  sum  that millions of players around the world are accustomed to

Quote
Sales commission is distributed after each and every drawing based on the smart contract, regardless of the volume of ticket sales.

one of their admins indicates that commissions will only be paid from the end of February instead of from launch date as previously stated. Obviously, this would mean then that nearly two months of commissions are off limit to the investors. Would it not?

February commission
https://postimg.org/image/vxg6rxn7f/

This simply implies as I stated that keti-gav and Tommy Cash have two entirely different ideas on when things might be happening which would indicate very poor communication between team players. Would it not be easier to just say, 'I don't know for sure, this is just something I pulled out of my ass?

Rogers 10 days
https://postimg.org/image/qnb806ktn/

Rogers 30 to 45 days
https://postimg.org/image/5qezvlf3v/

You know, these aren't accusations. They are just discrepancies which can all be attributed to the Fire Lotto team. Absolutely ridiculous.

BTW, I already know you'll say the screenshots are fake, so save your breath.

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Thanks for posting. Of course they will say that screenshots are fake and you are a scammer. This is the only answer they have.
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March 28, 2018, 09:44:16 PM
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Very enlightening. Thank you. We'll still be waiting.
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March 28, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
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Here is a conversation between CashPokerPro and possible investor on Telegram. Notice the same unique service that we receive here. You could put these admins in a box and mail them anywhere in the world and still open the box up to only find a jackass inside.

SS: What is % of hard cap sold since the beginning of ICO. Is it possible to have an answer??
Admin: We did not do math.
SS: Is that really your damn answer??? You represent a society looking for investors.
Admin: Personal abuse. Shouldn't be doing that.
SS: The question is aren't you smart enough to make a rule of three...or foolish enough and so haughty to give this kind of answer?
Admin: You asking me to do a smart job you can't?
SS: I can't because I don't know the amount you sold before ICO opening.
Admin: Around 15 mil.
SS: Now I understand why you didn't want to answer.
Admin: You were asking to do math but not for the amount. I believe you can do math yourself.
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March 29, 2018, 01:34:45 AM
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The list of Fire Lotto Scammers


1. Roman Demidov Registered January 09/2108 10 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1642125;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @RomanDemidov Twitter: https://twitter.com/RomanPlatinovy

2. ket_gav  Registered December 12/2017 441 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Keti_Gav  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ketgav

3. Tommy Cash Registered January 15/2018 157 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Tommy_guns

4.  Dmitry Griz Registered January 13/2018 143 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078;sa=showPosts

Telegram : @DiGrits

5. Deterok018 Registered December 27/2017 284 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566;sa=showPosts

Telegram: @Ghost019
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March 29, 2018, 09:35:50 AM
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The accounts of extortionists and the team of scammers are created only to defame the reputation of the project Fire Lotto

Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flaggin
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- FLOTS(C)AM


Evidence:
https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg
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March 29, 2018, 11:59:56 AM
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That's the battles that go around the project. Unfortunately, it's hard for a simple user to understand, you have to take a neutral position.
But I want the project to be normal and honest.
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March 29, 2018, 12:02:06 PM
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                                  Now let me introduce another evidence that Fire Lotto is a scam

After the fail of cashpokerpro https://cashpokerpro.io/ where Fire Lotto team robbed all investors, they created a new fake project icolab.me (That website is now deleted by scammers) In that scam, they stole some pictures of famous people in crypto world (Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper) and added them as advisors to their ICO website. Jake Brukhman exposed them lately and tweeted about that scam to warn people

https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314  

Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) was a CEO of icolab.me  This information was deleted lately. But Google is helping us again

https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg  

https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.png


                            THIS PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY  SCAMMERS! THEY ARE IDENTITY THIEVES TOO!!!
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March 29, 2018, 08:56:30 PM
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After the fail of cashpokerpro https://cashpokerpro.io/ where Fire Lotto team robbed all investors, they created a new fake project icolab.me (That website is now deleted by scammers) In that scam, they stole some pictures of famous people in crypto world (Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper) and added them as advisors to their ICO website. Jake Brukhman exposed them lately and tweeted about that scam to warn people


ICO and Internet is a network where may people and projects may intersect. Also, there are many fake news created by scamers that they apply to prove their words. Our team is responsible for Firelotto.io. Scamers intentionally avoid talking about other team members and our partners such as Qiwi, 1Xbet Shangri La. World know companies that make a due diligence of the project first and then cooperate. Everything we do to make the project better stays out of their attention. And it all began after we refused to pay them money (before the ICO started).
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March 29, 2018, 09:23:42 PM
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After the fail of cashpokerpro https://cashpokerpro.io/ where Fire Lotto team robbed all investors, they created a new fake project icolab.me (That website is now deleted by scammers) In that scam, they stole some pictures of famous people in crypto world (Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper) and added them as advisors to their ICO website. Jake Brukhman exposed them lately and tweeted about that scam to warn people


ICO and Internet is a network where may people and projects may intersect. Also, there are many fake news created by scamers that they apply to prove their words. Our team is responsible for Firelotto.io. Scamers intentionally avoid talking about other team members and our partners such as Qiwi, 1Xbet Shangri La. World know companies that make a due diligence of the project first and then cooperate. Everything we do to make the project better stays out of their attention. And it all began after we refused to pay them money (before the ICO started).


That's not true Tommy Cash. I was browsing through the Telegraph Chat yesterday and followed the link to 1Xbet. I saw that people can buy their tickets on that site. Is that a good thing? I don't know. I wont be buying a ticket until I am ready to collect my commission. Maybe I'll use 1Xbet then.

Speaking of the commission, I see one of your admins on Telegraph stating that commissions only start from the end of February. The Whitepaper says the commission will be on all tickets sold. So why won't we be collecting on all the tickets that were sold before the end of February.

The admin by the name of Leandro Queiroz was the person saying that.
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March 29, 2018, 09:39:12 PM
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After the fail of cashpokerpro https://cashpokerpro.io/ where Fire Lotto team robbed all investors, they created a new fake project icolab.me (That website is now deleted by scammers) In that scam, they stole some pictures of famous people in crypto world (Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper) and added them as advisors to their ICO website. Jake Brukhman exposed them lately and tweeted about that scam to warn people


ICO and Internet is a network where may people and projects may intersect. Also, there are many fake news created by scamers that they apply to prove their words. Our team is responsible for Firelotto.io. Scamers intentionally avoid talking about other team members and our partners such as Qiwi, 1Xbet Shangri La. World know companies that make a due diligence of the project first and then cooperate. Everything we do to make the project better stays out of their attention. And it all began after we refused to pay them money (before the ICO started).


Yea.. sure.. From your point of view, every undeniable proof that Fire Lotto is a scam, is fake and created by scammers.. Your CEO Roman Demidov was a Co-founder and a CEO of the scam called icolab.me that stole the identities of Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper to advertise them as advisors on the their scam website. Jake Brukhman exposed your scam later and tweeted about that. Here are undeniable proofs of that.
 
https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg  

https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.png

https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314

Dude.. You are a scammer and a member of a criminal gang, which is running Fire Lotto scam. I'm more than sure, that all investors will loose all of their money. Same scenario was in your first scam project called cashpokerpro. I  already reported you to SEC and other investors are contacting their lawyers, to proceed with legal actions. Your place is in the jail, you fucking idiot and you will go there very soon.  
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March 29, 2018, 09:51:23 PM
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The accounts of extortionists and the team of scammers are created only to defame the reputation of the project Fire Lotto

Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flaggin
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- FLOTS(C)AM


Evidence:
https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg
Any evidence that make me being on that list?
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March 29, 2018, 09:58:53 PM
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Any evidence that make me being on that list?

The only evidence is the negative posts of yours about Fire Lotto scam. Anyone asking "uncomfortable questions" and posting a negative comment in this thread is immediately placed on the so called "Scammers List" created by Fire Lotto scammers. 
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ICO and Internet is a network where may people and projects may intersect. Also, there are many fake news created by scamers that they apply to prove their words. Our team is responsible for Firelotto.io. Scamers intentionally avoid talking about other team members and our partners such as Qiwi, 1Xbet Shangri La. World know companies that make a due diligence of the project first and then cooperate. Everything we do to make the project better stays out of their attention. And it all began after we refused to pay them money (before the ICO started).

Let me make situation clear regarding your partners:

1.  1XBET is a scam bookmaker that is licensed in Curacao and is illegal in USA, CHINA, EU, Russia, Japan.. e.t.c... They are mainly targeting former Soviet countries ... Also 1XBET is confiscating players funds without any explanation and sending Trojan (spyware viruses) to the customers computers. And..... of course it runs more than 33 lotteries... https://1xbet.com

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/1xbet-scam-warning-231709.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3427967-yet-another-1xbet-scam-report.html

http://www.lottoexposed.com/1xbet-exposed/

2.  ShangriLa is a Georgian casino with headquarter in Tbilisi. It is illegal (online) anywhere except Georgia and is mainly used for money laundering purposes. (There is no information on their website regarding  your partnership) https://playshangrila.com

3.  Qiwi (There is no information on their website regarding  your partnership) https://qiwi.com/
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March 30, 2018, 02:42:30 AM
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ICO and Internet is a network where may people and projects may intersect. Also, there are many fake news created by scamers that they apply to prove their words. Our team is responsible for Firelotto.io. Scamers intentionally avoid talking about other team members and our partners such as Qiwi, 1Xbet Shangri La. World know companies that make a due diligence of the project first and then cooperate. Everything we do to make the project better stays out of their attention. And it all began after we refused to pay them money (before the ICO started).

Let me make situation clear regarding your partners:

1.  1XBET is a scam bookmaker that is licensed in Curacao and is illegal in USA, CHINA, EU, Russia, Japan.. e.t.c... They are mainly targeting former Soviet countries ... Also 1XBET is confiscating players funds without any explanation and sending Trojan (spyware viruses) to the customers computers. And..... of course it runs more than 33 lotteries... https://1xbet.com

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/1xbet-scam-warning-231709.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3427967-yet-another-1xbet-scam-report.html

http://www.lottoexposed.com/1xbet-exposed/

2.  ShangriLa is a Georgian casino with headquarter in Tbilisi. It is illegal (online) anywhere except Georgia and is mainly used for money laundering purposes. (There is no information on their website regarding  your partnership) https://playshangrila.com

3.  Qiwi (There is no information on their website regarding  your partnership) https://qiwi.com/

Hmm, great partnerships indeed. I'm sure they've done their due diligence alright, but you have to wonder about the quality. With partnerships like these in place it will be even harder to get reliable partnerships in future.

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March 30, 2018, 06:06:43 AM
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ICO and Internet is a network where may people and projects may intersect. Also, there are many fake news created by scamers that they apply to prove their words. Our team is responsible for Firelotto.io. Scamers intentionally avoid talking about other team members and our partners such as Qiwi, 1Xbet Shangri La. World know companies that make a due diligence of the project first and then cooperate. Everything we do to make the project better stays out of their attention. And it all began after we refused to pay them money (before the ICO started).

Let me make situation clear regarding your partners:

1.  1XBET is a scam bookmaker that is licensed in Curacao and is illegal in USA, CHINA, EU, Russia, Japan.. e.t.c... They are mainly targeting former Soviet countries ... Also 1XBET is confiscating players funds without any explanation and sending Trojan (spyware viruses) to the customers computers. And..... of course it runs more than 33 lotteries... https://1xbet.com

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/1xbet-scam-warning-231709.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3427967-yet-another-1xbet-scam-report.html

http://www.lottoexposed.com/1xbet-exposed/

2.  ShangriLa is a Georgian casino with headquarter in Tbilisi. It is illegal (online) anywhere except Georgia and is mainly used for money laundering purposes. (There is no information on their website regarding  your partnership) https://playshangrila.com

3.  Qiwi (There is no information on their website regarding  your partnership) https://qiwi.com/

Hmm, great partnerships indeed. I'm sure they've done their due diligence alright, but you have to wonder about the quality. With partnerships like these in place it will be even harder to get reliable partnerships in future.

We have all information about our parnters on website. It`s just only your opinion.
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