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March 12, 2018, 11:17:54 AM |
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The picture looks like a casino advertisement, cause roulette is not related to lottery anyhow. |
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FLOTS(C)AM
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March 12, 2018, 12:26:32 PM |
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Any serious articles that I were positive about Firelotto were promotions, paid publications. Could someone please show me some positive articles (magazines, websites) that are positive about FL?
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mosprognoz
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March 12, 2018, 05:49:34 PM |
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Any serious articles that I were positive about Firelotto were promotions, paid publications. Could someone please show me some positive articles (magazines, websites) that are positive about FL?
Unfortunately NO You can find only a paid bullshit, that was purchased using investors money (Yours) Scammers will never pay anything from their pocket. BTW ... This dudes started this scammy project by trying to steal customers private keys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkO6bOkZHc |
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flaggin
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March 12, 2018, 06:39:44 PM |
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Any serious articles that I were positive about Firelotto were promotions, paid publications. Could someone please show me some positive articles (magazines, websites) that are positive about FL?
Unfortunately NO You can find only a paid bullshit, that was purchased using investors money (Yours) Scammers will never pay anything from their pocket. BTW ... This dudes started this scammy project by trying to steal customers private keys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkO6bOkZHcThis was the very reason I hesitated buying into the project in the first place. But then they resolved the private key issue (it should never have been an issue in the first place) So I bought in. My first question was regarding how many tickets I needed to purchase in order to collect the commission. After that, I was added to their list of scammers. Firelotto Sucks!The majority of questions asked on this forum are not satisfactorily answered. Their main goal is to promote the project in order to scam even more investors. |
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Deterok018
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March 12, 2018, 09:13:16 PM |
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Deterok018
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March 12, 2018, 09:15:16 PM |
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SCAMMERS team members are:
- mosprognoz;
- kruglikov;
- gorbal
- atenolol
- flaggin
- kermitas
All accounts are Newbie and created just with one reason - to discredit Fire Lotto project.
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OZmaster
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March 12, 2018, 10:42:33 PM |
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Any serious articles that I were positive about Firelotto were promotions, paid publications. Could someone please show me some positive articles (magazines, websites) that are positive about FL?
Unfortunately NO You can find only a paid bullshit, that was purchased using investors money (Yours) Scammers will never pay anything from their pocket. BTW ... This dudes started this scammy project by trying to steal customers private keys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkO6bOkZHcTo be fair though most promotional articles that you can find on those big news websites are paid by the projects that are featured. That's nothing special. |
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gorbal
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March 12, 2018, 10:45:18 PM |
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After reading the last pages here I just had to create an account and comment as well. After a recommendation from a friend and reading positive ICO assessments, I invested in FLOT in the presale. Only later did I discover the Telegram group, unfortunately.
The admins there were very rude to their potential investors, somebody asking about the odds for the various wins in the lotteries was told to calculate it themselves. Often questions and answers went like this:
Q When will you offer xxx?
A After ico/soon
Q What will the roadmap for 2018 look like?
A What do you suggest?
Q Where can I see the current advertising?
A A lot depends on flot investors creating promotion
It just didn't feel right, they had no real answers. Several times people were told to check the white paper, even though the white paper didn't really contain that much detail. When I read the white paper more closely, I found some basic errors (incorrect roi calculation, usd 1 expected valuation really based on nothing but some different lottery token being prices at usd 1 (with far less tokens in circulation) and a few others) and alerted the admins. I assumed they'd correct this asap, since the wp is such an important document.
But nothing happened.
When I asked them again a few days later I got questions like: What errors? So I would list them again, they'd sheepishly agree that it should be corrected and told me that would happen "soon". Again nothing happened. When I piped up a little louder about this, they booted me out of the Telegram chat after writing the immortal words: "Thank you for your contribution". I contacted the admin in pm and he said they'd get me to correct the wp in exchange for flots, I thought that would be a handy job. But then the pm went silent and I never heard from them again.
My investor friend was still in the Telegram group and asked the admins about the questions I had asked. The admin's answer was that they were "collaborating" with me, which they were not.
FireLotto is all held together with lies and empty promises. "After ico" is a great one, that's when all the cash has been received and can be divided among the team, all the while pretending to still be developing and improving, then slowly decreasing apparent output and in the end you just stop responding to anything and start a new project. If law enforcement knock on your door you can always say it's still "in development".
You have to hand it to them, having a ready and working product was a great move.
For anyone looking to invest now: Buyer beware!
PS After asking a question about the new SEC rules, under which FireLotto is supposed to be registered with FinCEM in the US, my FLOT investor friend got kicked out of the Telegram group too. It's just no way to treat investors with genuine questions.
That guys will newer answer any question. Because they don't have any answers. After being exposed as SCAMMERS they are just posting some ridiculous stories about extortion and attacks. Not a single answer to countless scam accusations!!! Any person who will post a negative post about this scam lottery is automatically qualified as a scammer. |
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flaggin
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March 12, 2018, 10:58:31 PM |
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SCAMMERS team members are:
- mosprognoz;
- kruglikov;
- gorbal
- atenolol
- flaggin
- kermitas
All accounts are Newbie and created just with one reason - to discredit Fire Lotto project.
Again, the link showing that I am in fact an investor in the project and not a scammer. https://i.imgur.com/4jDslO6.pngYou see. They just can't accept the fact that they are bullshitting and making this list up to draw attention away from the real SCAMMERS who are in fact the Firelotto Team themselves. |
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hemlockboy
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March 13, 2018, 02:45:59 AM |
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Hey why am I off the "Scammers" list???
True, I am also an Investor, but that's why I came out and helped unveil this corrupt Russian plot!
1. Cash Bet Pro ICO -- Roman Demidov and company ripped off a lot of people last year
2. No Transparency! No running code available -- here are the smart contracts running Firelotto.com:
0xd06FD155421a993057113f5e2597Bf65b9f42b00', // 5x36 v1.1
0xE044e2eb641Efa48B97ef05c24f70F7675D2D404' // 6x45 v1.1
0xa0306fCaE88f84CBBe2CF784B1046A94DeF54015', // 4x20 v1.1
...if you check them out, all bytecode, no source available.
3. GitHub -- fake old smart contracts, how can we believe this is even used? If we can't audit the live contracts, it's bunk
4. Corporate Fakes -- based in Cyprus? Singapore? Russia?
5. Fake People like Elena Bogdanova (2 different pictures, one for Cash Poker Pro ICO, a different one for FireLotto ICO
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ba1amut
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March 13, 2018, 06:56:02 AM |
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This is scam! I'm old investor of Cashpoker, so I watched them ) and I can say with confidence THIS IS SCAM!
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March 13, 2018, 07:33:29 AM |
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March 13, 2018, 07:39:27 AM |
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ATTENTION !!! SCAMMERS!!! HERE ARE UNDENIABLE PROOFS THAT FIRE LOTTO IS ORCHESTRATED BY SCAMMERS!!!That dudes were involved in countless scams! Scam number 1: : Cash Poker Pro ICO- decentralized poker room that scammed many investors and is labeled as a obvious SCAM! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056999.msg20517116#msg20517116 Same people from that scam are now involved in Fire Lotto scam. Here is the reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg31509943#msg31509943 https://cashpokerpro.io/Scam number 2 : ICOLAB.ME (That website is now deleted by scammers, but thanks to Google we have the proofs.) In that scam, they stole some pictures from twitter and added them as a team members on the website. Also they stole the identity of famous people in crypto world and added them as advisers to their ICO website, but were busted lately. Here are the references: https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314 https://twitter.com/BraytonKey ICOLAB.ME was mentioned it the profile of Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) but the information was deleted lately. Here are the references. https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.pngScam number 3: Fire Lotto Here scammers changed their official address on ICO website two times within one week. Here is the reference: https://i.imgur.com/OmldyDd.png The first address 8 Lefkou Anastasiadi, 2012 Strovolos, Nicosia, Cyprus belongs to ORISTANE MANAGEMENT LTD and was stolen by Fire Lotto scammers. Here is the reference: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Mv4wPTVKPuKn2PC1azo5KNAslDM/appointments The second address 140 UPPER BUKIT TIMAH ROAD #04-06, BEAUTY WORLD PLAZA, SINGAPORE (588176) is also fake and actually is the address of a mall for retail shops, that are selling the beauty products for womens! http://www.property2day.com/beauty-world-plaza/
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Tommy Cash
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March 13, 2018, 07:43:03 AM |
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ba1amut
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March 13, 2018, 07:45:38 AM |
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They have a goal to discredit the project, because we did not give them money
I don't need your money! I want only less fraud in this world. I believed in cashpoker, but you are scammers not devs Unfortunately NO You can find only a paid bullshit, that was purchased using investors money (Yours) Scammers will never pay anything from their pocket. BTW ... This dudes started this scammy project by trying to steal customers private keys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkO6bOkZHc - private keys? seriously?  |
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fmboyzz
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March 13, 2018, 07:55:58 AM |
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I don't believe in a lottery, but I feel like to give it a try. Is there any way to get free lotto here? I don't wanna pay for it.
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kettenschutz
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March 13, 2018, 07:59:08 AM |
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I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.
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kermitas
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March 13, 2018, 08:42:07 AM
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I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.
No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available. |
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March 13, 2018, 08:49:44 AM |
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I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.
No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make them running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available. I'm surprised.. Without open source codes, it is very difficult to gain the trust of large investors. And as it will be difficult to attract customers. |
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