[ANN][ICO] Fire Lotto - International blockchain LOTTERY

[Akinohn]

All of this has deal a blow to the reputation of Fire Lotto, the project needs our support guys

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[Moto_angel]

I like the idea of blockchain based lottery. Stay strong team!

[Anayajurus]

I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.

I think it's correct. Some of the most common lottery industry problems are trust and fairness issues. Blockchain technology can solve these problems.

[mosprognoz]

                                

The list of Fire Lotto Scammers

1. ket_gav  Registered December 12/2017 441 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614;sa=showPosts

2. Tommy Cash Registered January 15/2018 157 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152;sa=showPosts

3.  Dmitry Griz Registered January 13/2018 143 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078;sa=showPosts

4. Deterok018 Registered December 27/2017 284 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566;sa=showPosts

There are dozens of others. I'm just too lazy to post all of them here. Dear potential investors. As you can clearly see, this project is a obvious scam orchestrated by Russian criminals. I strongly recommend you to stay away from this fraudulent ICO.    

Accounts connected : (Paid Shills) This accounts are managed by a SCAMMER who is offering shilling services via telegram. Just check the posts from that profiles. All posts are the same . "Great Project" "I support this  project" e.t.c... I guess this dudes are supporting all scam projects in the world  

Akinohn https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1492211 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1492211;sa=showPosts

Moto_angel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384512 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384512;sa=showPosts

Anayajurus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384493 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384493;sa=showPosts

All this profiles will be reported with request of permanent ban due to shilling for scams and low quality shitposting!!!

[mosprognoz]

Hey why am I off the "Scammers" list???

True, I am also an Investor, but that's why I came out and helped unveil this corrupt Russian plot!

1.  Cash Bet Pro ICO -- Roman Demidov and company ripped off a lot of people last year

2.  No Transparency!   No running code available -- here are the smart contracts running Firelotto.com:

 0xd06FD155421a993057113f5e2597Bf65b9f42b00', // 5x36 v1.1
 0xE044e2eb641Efa48B97ef05c24f70F7675D2D404' // 6x45 v1.1
 0xa0306fCaE88f84CBBe2CF784B1046A94DeF54015', // 4x20 v1.1

...if you check them out, all bytecode, no source available.

 3.  GitHub -- fake old smart contracts, how can we believe this is even used?  If we can't audit the live contracts, it's bunk

4.  Corporate Fakes -- based in Cyprus?  Singapore?  Russia?

5.  Fake People like Elena Bogdanova (2 different pictures, one for Cash Poker Pro ICO, a different one for FireLotto ICO

Don't worry! They have relisted you already as a scammer.  Fake smart contracts... Hmm..... No more comments!

[CashPokerPro]

                               

The list of Fire Lotto Scammers

All this profiles will be reported with request of permanent ban due to shilling for scams and low quality shitposting!!!

Community, check articles on HYPE.CODES about scammers and their attack to the Fire Lotto project:
https://hype.codes/scammers-invent-new-ways-attack-ico-projects
https://hype.codes/scammers-turn-threatening-attempt-rob-ico-project

Also on Russian language:
https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto

Team of the SCAMMERS team members:
Mosprognoz;
Circles;
Gorbal
atenolol
flagpole
kermitas
hemlockboy
kruglikov

[CashPokerPro]

No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available.

Source code available on GItHub and you can check it.
Scammers team members just talk between each here.

SCAMMERS team members are:
Mosprognoz;
Circles;
Gorbal
atenolol
flagpole
kermitas
hemlockboy
kruglikov

[FLOTS(C)AM]

CashPokerPro, instead of investing so much time in trying to discredit critical people in this thread, why don't you just take away any doubt by answering some questions?

[Deterok018]

Dear community be careful, admins will never write your first. Scammers team are:
Mosprognoz;
Circles;
Gorbal
atenolol
flagpole
kermitas
hemlockboy
kruglikov

[CashPokerPro]

CashPokerPro, instead of investing so much time in trying to discredit critical people in this thread, why don't you just take away any doubt by answering some questions?

Scammers team got all answers.
That will not pay to them.
You made great NewBie account. Are you also SCAMMERS team member?

[CashPokerPro]

True, I am also an Investor, but that's why I came out and helped unveil this corrupt Russian plot!

1.  Cash Bet Pro ICO -- Roman Demidov and company ripped off a lot of people last year

2.  No Transparency!   No running code available -- here are the smart contracts running Firelotto.com:

 0xd06FD155421a993057113f5e2597Bf65b9f42b00', // 5x36 v1.1
 0xE044e2eb641Efa48B97ef05c24f70F7675D2D404' // 6x45 v1.1
 0xa0306fCaE88f84CBBe2CF784B1046A94DeF54015', // 4x20 v1.1

...if you check them out, all bytecode, no source available.

 3.  GitHub -- fake old smart contracts, how can we believe this is even used?  If we can't audit the live contracts, it's bunk

4.  Corporate Fakes -- based in Cyprus?  Singapore?  Russia?

5.  Fake People like Elena Bogdanova (2 different pictures, one for Cash Poker Pro ICO, a different one for FireLotto ICO

1. Cash Poker Pro project ongoing. And will finish in few months. Cash Poker Pro community informed about it.
2. Made update for the smart contract to safe GAS for the players. It was 170 000 GAS in 4x20 lottery and now 150 000. Lottery players can safe several cents from the commission for each lottery ticket.
3. Have all smart contracts on GitHub. You just ask same questions many times.
4. Use different companies for different solutions (payments/ license/ certification). Fire Lotto lottery decentralised and belongs to the community.
5. You can check Elena Bogdanova in LinkedIn also in Grohe company. She is professional lawyer fro many years.

[Tommy Cash]

All of this has deal a blow to the reputation of Fire Lotto, the project needs our support guys

Thanks guys for the feedback. It is very important for us. Since we are constantly working on improving our project. And not what kind of rogues will not prevent us

[Tommy Cash]

The Fire Lotto team will not pay you for blackmail, threats and extortion !!
Dear community, the team of intruders refers to you projects as their pride in correspondence, extorting funds from the Fire Lotto.
Access and support the project:

https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto

http://image.ibb.co/jPAhQ7/r6bzvbal_mo.jpg

[hodap]

I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.

No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available.

Your argument about the non-public source code is very important. As long as they don't show it publicly it is normal to assume that it's not 100% decentralized and might be prone to manipulation. Also, what is the point in hiding the source code?

[Tommy Cash]

I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.

No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available.

Your argument about the non-public source code is very important. As long as they don't show it publicly it is normal to assume that it's not 100% decentralized and might be prone to manipulation. Also, what is the point in hiding the source code?

Do you listen to his hems? You can find code on github. Check WP. All code will be shown later after ico to prevent its usage by competitors. If you have questions about the source code, ask them (write comments) about GitHub, and the DEV team will answer you.

[pernikar]

I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.

No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available.

Your argument about the non-public source code is very important. As long as they don't show it publicly it is normal to assume that it's not 100% decentralized and might be prone to manipulation. Also, what is the point in hiding the source code?

I'm kinda split on this one. Having an open/public source code (all of them) adds credibility to the project and it's kinda expected nowadays, but as a (somewhat) developer myself, I can understand the reasons for wanting to keep the code hidden. Especially now when projects are being forked or copied all the time, I wouldn't want to expose all of my work for someone to copy it and possibly create a competition for myself. But on the other hand, I can't have a total confidence that the project is 100% legit or decentralized or whatever if they keep a major portion of the code hidden.

The FireLotto team stated earlier in the thread that they will release the code once the ICO is over to protect the "patent" from competition, so we'll just have to see.

[gorbal]

                               

The list of Fire Lotto Scammers

1. ket_gav  Registered December 12/2017 441 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424614;sa=showPosts

2. Tommy Cash Registered January 15/2018 157 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695152;sa=showPosts

3.  Dmitry Griz Registered January 13/2018 143 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1680078;sa=showPosts

4. Deterok018 Registered December 27/2017 284 Posts and all of them about Fire Lotto scam promotion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1528566;sa=showPosts

There are dozens of others. I'm just too lazy to post all of them here. Dear potential investors. As you can clearly see, this project is a obvious scam orchestrated by Russian criminals. I strongly recommend you to stay away from this fraudulent ICO.    

Accounts connected : (Paid Shills) This accounts are managed by a SCAMMER who is offering shilling services via telegram. Just check the posts from that profiles. All posts are the same . "Great Project" "I support this  project" e.t.c... I guess this dudes are supporting all scam projects in the world  

Akinohn https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1492211 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1492211;sa=showPosts

Moto_angel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384512 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384512;sa=showPosts

Anayajurus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384493 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384493;sa=showPosts

All this profiles will be reported with request of permanent ban due to shilling for scams and low quality shitposting!!!

You forgot to add a RAT and a SNITCH called pernikar who is actively snitching ans is a PAID SHILL of Fire Lotto scammers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3065763.msg31520560#msg31520560

[gorbal]

Hey why am I off the "Scammers" list???

True, I am also an Investor, but that's why I came out and helped unveil this corrupt Russian plot!

1.  Cash Bet Pro ICO -- Roman Demidov and company ripped off a lot of people last year

2.  No Transparency!   No running code available -- here are the smart contracts running Firelotto.com:

 0xd06FD155421a993057113f5e2597Bf65b9f42b00', // 5x36 v1.1
 0xE044e2eb641Efa48B97ef05c24f70F7675D2D404' // 6x45 v1.1
 0xa0306fCaE88f84CBBe2CF784B1046A94DeF54015', // 4x20 v1.1

...if you check them out, all bytecode, no source available.

 3.  GitHub -- fake old smart contracts, how can we believe this is even used?  If we can't audit the live contracts, it's bunk

4.  Corporate Fakes -- based in Cyprus?  Singapore?  Russia?

5.  Fake People like Elena Bogdanova (2 different pictures, one for Cash Poker Pro ICO, a different one for FireLotto ICO

Thanks for your research mate. You deserve a merit for that.

[pernikar]

You forgot to add a RAT and a SNITCH called pernikar who is actively snitching ans is a PAID SHILL of Fire Lotto scammers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3065763.msg31520560#msg31520560

I only report posts that break the rules, so when you keep posting the exact same thing over and over again don't be surprised to get reported. Also, if someone could finally pay me for the supposed shilling, that'd be nice

[Deterok018]

I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.

No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available.

Your argument about the non-public source code is very important. As long as they don't show it publicly it is normal to assume that it's not 100% decentralized and might be prone to manipulation. Also, what is the point in hiding the source code?

I'm kinda split on this one. Having an open/public source code (all of them) adds credibility to the project and it's kinda expected nowadays, but as a (somewhat) developer myself, I can understand the reasons for wanting to keep the code hidden. Especially now when projects are being forked or copied all the time, I wouldn't want to expose all of my work for someone to copy it and possibly create a competition for myself. But on the other hand, I can't have a total confidence that the project is 100% legit or decentralized or whatever if they keep a major portion of the code hidden.

The FireLotto team stated earlier in the thread that they will release the code once the ICO is over to protect the "patent" from competition, so we'll just have to see.

The project is not completed, it is constantly developing. For example, now there is an integration with the payment system for fiat - QIWI.  In the near future will be added a momental lottery Roger`s wheel.The project really has a great future!