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This is really getting out of control  FireLotto seemed to be working fine for quite a while but all this info here might harm it. |
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Tommy Cash
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April 01, 2018, 08:44:07 PM |
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'Lets ask ourselves a question - Why would somebody so actively try to say so much shit about the project and avoid to admit obvious things like growing prize fund, running software, SEC confirmation, fiat payments, world known affiliate partners and etc?'
Well Tommy, I for one, am pissed off at the project because I am listed as a scammer. It would be so easy for you to acknowledge that I have never personally attacked the project. I asked a couple of questions and then was added to your list. Despite showing adequate proof that I own Flot, you continue to dismiss the fact that I am an investor. I have even provided proof that Fire Lotto is sending emails to my private email address. The only way for them to have my address is because I invested with that address.
Even with all this proof, you still will not admit that yes indeed I am an investor and not one of your so-called scammers.
It is this, and this reason only that leads me to believe that the whole scam conspiracy is fake. Also, it has been proven that at least two of the names on the list are fictitious. Ket_Gav, even admitted to making them up.
As has been shown enough times already, neither of you will acknowledge you are mistaken and your accusation of scammers pretty much remains a lie.
Mr. Flaggin, you do not understand the whole situation. In such PR war, you most likely warmed up the messages of scammers. These extortionists from the list participate in scam attacks and extortion from antoher projects: Worldcore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg22https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg22https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg22DeepOnion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.msg20909307#msg20909307Bankera https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts;start=540Bitcoinnet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts;start=520Bicoin Silver https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2270353.msg23614290#msg23614290That's why you included you in this list. Send me again in your personal login and links to transactions in PM (this is not confidential information) and if you confirm that you are really an investor, I will remove you from the list and try to answer all your questions. |
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April 01, 2018, 09:13:09 PM |
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'Lets ask ourselves a question - Why would somebody so actively try to say so much shit about the project and avoid to admit obvious things like growing prize fund, running software, SEC confirmation, fiat payments, world known affiliate partners and etc?'
Well Tommy, I for one, am pissed off at the project because I am listed as a scammer. It would be so easy for you to acknowledge that I have never personally attacked the project. I asked a couple of questions and then was added to your list. Despite showing adequate proof that I own Flot, you continue to dismiss the fact that I am an investor. I have even provided proof that Fire Lotto is sending emails to my private email address. The only way for them to have my address is because I invested with that address.
Even with all this proof, you still will not admit that yes indeed I am an investor and not one of your so-called scammers.
It is this, and this reason only that leads me to believe that the whole scam conspiracy is fake. Also, it has been proven that at least two of the names on the list are fictitious. Ket_Gav, even admitted to making them up.
As has been shown enough times already, neither of you will acknowledge you are mistaken and your accusation of scammers pretty much remains a lie.
Mr. Flaggin, you do not understand the whole situation. In such PR war, you most likely warmed up the messages of scammers. These extortionists from the list participate in scam attacks and extortion from antoher projects: Worldcore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg22https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg22https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg22DeepOnion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.msg20909307#msg20909307Bankera https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts;start=540Bitcoinnet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts;start=520Bicoin Silver https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2270353.msg23614290#msg23614290That's why you included you in this list. Send me again in your personal login and links to transactions in PM (this is not confidential information) and if you confirm that you are really an investor, I will remove you from the list and try to answer all your questions. Yes, I understand that. I even admitted that I might be unknowingly supporting the scammers, if there are any on this thread. I sent you a screenshot of Easter bunus code which Fire Lotto sent me. Think about it. How did they get my email? They have my email because I invested. You would say of course that this is fake. I understand that. This is what you said when I posted a screenshot showing my investors account; it is fake. I googled it. Right. I tried googling it right away. No such picture was available. But, I understand how difficult it is for you to understand such simple things. I posted another picture of the screenshot of my investor account. This time a larger picture. Not a screenshot, but a picture of the actual screen at my desk, with a handwritten note with your name on it. I even offered you to pm me some numbers that I would write on that but you didn't take up the offer. Of course the picture with your name on it never existed before, so you know it was the real deal, but still, you did not respond. Anybody else would look at that and know I am an investor but not you. I wrote support@firelotto; no response in over a month now. I pm'd ket-gav; no responce. I am happy to leave things as they are. If you can not come to a sane conclusion with what I have already given you, then I am sure nothing else is going to work. I'm not giving out any more private info than I already have. Enjoy your Easter, I am. |
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April 01, 2018, 09:23:50 PM |
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Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) Over on Telegram, he prefers to be known as AMB ASSADOR, rather than CEO. I believe he views himself with great importance.O yes! In Russian thread I found a very interesting photo, published by another scam buster. This is the photo from Mr. Roman Demidov Instagram, where he is stating, that he has a great experience in cancer treatment and already saved many lives...  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2643539.msg28083032#msg28083032 GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS, EH? ps, to admin, that last word should tell you where I'm from. |
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April 01, 2018, 09:36:18 PM |
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All the projects for you are scammers.
All these projects showed a correspondence about your extortion in the form of ether or bitcoin.
The same 5-7 accounts spread on this forum completely unreasonable informationIs not it strange? |
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April 01, 2018, 09:40:45 PM |
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Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) Over on Telegram, he prefers to be known as AMB ASSADOR, rather than CEO. I believe he views himself with great importance.O yes! In Russian thread I found a very interesting photo, published by another scam buster. This is the photo from Mr. Roman Demidov Instagram, where he is stating, that he has a great experience in cancer treatment and already saved many lives... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2643539.msg28083032#msg28083032 GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS, EH? ps, to admin, that last word should tell you where I'm from. What difference does it make to you what a man likes to do and what he does in his spare time? Have you decided to find fault with your personal life? |
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April 01, 2018, 09:46:56 PM |
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Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) Over on Telegram, he prefers to be known as AMB ASSADOR, rather than CEO. I believe he views himself with great importance.O yes! In Russian thread I found a very interesting photo, published by another scam buster. This is the photo from Mr. Roman Demidov Instagram, where he is stating, that he has a great experience in cancer treatment and already saved many lives... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2643539.msg28083032#msg28083032 GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS, EH? ps, to admin, that last word should tell you where I'm from.
What difference does it make to you what a man likes to do and what he does in his spare time? Have you decided to find fault with your personal life? O yes.. In his spare time he is treating cancer, diabetes and other incurable diseases... We already know about that. |
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April 01, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
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Quote from Tommy Cash
'Lets ask ourselves a question - Why would somebody so actively try to say so much shit about the project and avoid to admit obvious things like growing prize fund, running software, SEC confirmation, fiat payments, world known affiliate partners and etc?'
Well Tommy, I for one, am pissed off at the project because I am listed as a scammer. It would be so easy for you to acknowledge that I have never personally attacked the project. I asked a couple of questions and then was added to your list. Despite showing adequate proof that I own Flot, you continue to dismiss the fact that I am an investor. I have even provided proof that Fire Lotto is sending emails to my private email address. The only way for them to have my address is because I invested with that address.
Even with all this proof, you still will not admit that yes indeed I am an investor and not one of your so-called scammers.
It is this, and this reason only that leads me to believe that the whole scam conspiracy is fake. Also, it has been proven that at least two of the names on the list are fictitious. Ket_Gav, even admitted to making them up.
As has been shown enough times already, neither of you will acknowledge you are mistaken and your accusation of scammers pretty much remains a lie.
Mr. Flaggin, you do not understand the whole situation. In such PR war, you most likely warmed up the messages of scammers. These extortionists from the list participate in scam attacks and extortion from antoher projects: Worldcore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg22https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg22https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg22DeepOnion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.msg20909307#msg20909307Bankera https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts;start=540Bitcoinnet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts;start=520Bicoin Silver https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2270353.msg23614290#msg23614290That's why you included you in this list. Send me again in your personal login and links to transactions in PM (this is not confidential information) and if you confirm that you are really an investor, I will remove you from the list and try to answer all your questions. Yes, I understand that. I even admitted that I might be unknowingly supporting the scammers, if there are any on this thread. I sent you a screenshot of Easter bunus code which Fire Lotto sent me. Think about it. How did they get my email? They have my email because I invested. You would say of course that this is fake. I understand that. This is what you said when I posted a screenshot showing my investors account; it is fake. I googled it. Right. I tried googling it right away. No such picture was available. But, I understand how difficult it is for you to understand such simple things. I posted another picture of the screenshot of my investor account. This time a larger picture. Not a screenshot, but a picture of the actual screen at my desk, with a handwritten note with your name on it. I even offered you to pm me some numbers that I would write on that but you didn't take up the offer. Of course the picture with your name on it never existed before, so you know it was the real deal, but still, you did not respond. Anybody else would look at that and know I am an investor but not you. I wrote support@firelotto; no response in over a month now. I pm'd ket-gav; no responce. I am happy to leave things as they are. If you can not come to a sane conclusion with what I have already given you, then I am sure nothing else is going to work. I'm not giving out any more private info than I already have. Enjoy your Easter, I am. I need your links to transactions in order to match with your login. I repeat to you, this is not classified information, dozens of people throw in the telegram chat links to transactions, with a problem with the purchase or with the network load. So, you opened a picture or a screenshot, wrote my nickname, it does not tell me anything. I can same drop you some of these different screenshots with a note of your name. |
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April 01, 2018, 10:05:56 PM |
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In the lottery 4 of 20 in the jubilee 100 draw was won Jack Pot 4.86 ETH Congratulations to the winner!
And who was the winner? Good doctor Romad Demidov who is treating all incurable diseases? |
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April 02, 2018, 12:30:15 AM |
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We made a completely autonomous and decentralized system for distribution the commissions, so that it did not depend on anyone, either from people or from bases and so on. Put tokens through the cabinet or directly on a smart contract, received your commission in 5 minutes and then keep and dispose tokens as you want. Security of smart contract at the level of the lottery (not a single penny was lost). And all other solutions mean a server, a database and the participation of a person in the process, and third-party.
The whole point of the project is to make the lottery itself, to receive commissions and to connect affiliates and referrals completely transparent, decentralized and autonomous.
That sounds great! Could you give us the addresses of these smart contracts? You can find code on github. Check WP. All code will be shown later after ico to prevent its usage by competitors I don't mean the source code, I mean the smart contract that's going to distribute flots to investors once the ICO finishes. |
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April 02, 2018, 12:37:40 AM |
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Scammers are really trying to find something bad in the project Firelott.io. But all of them forget and avoid to talk about one MAJOR thing - FIRELOTTO.COM is a running lottery. Before running the ICO FireLotto team AT FIRST created a fully decentralized lottery platform, launched it and only after that started its ICO.
The main idea of ICO - is to raise funds for a PRIZE POOL to be big enough for people all over the world will be interested to play.
People play and win in Firelotto.com every day. Team enlarges the Jackpot every week and now days it is over 960 ETH.
So how all those things that SCAMERS talk about can influence a running lottery?!?!? I don't see a way.
Lets ask ourselves a question - Why would somebody so actively try to say so much shit about the project and avoid to admit obvious things like growing prize fund, running software, SEC confirmation, fiat payments, world known affiliate partners and etc?
The main purpose of saying shit is not to warn people to stay out from investing into a project. THE MAIN IDEA is to earn money for such criminal activity. Their business is very simple. The ask for money so they leave ICO alone. If ICO refuses they attack it on and promote their social accounts. Once the account been pumped up they sell. So SCAMERS do not real care of who to talk shit about. Its their little dirty business. And they are not talented enough to think of something else. To create. They only know how to anonymously destroy.
With such actions scammers do not help the project - they are trying to kill it and thus thee DO NO CARE AT ALL about investors.
Firelotto.io and firelotto.com is a successful project already. And no matter what SCAMERS will do its already in the ETH network, it can not be shut down or influenced by any body. People play and win every day, we will continue to increase prize fund and do affiliate integrations. Yes they make our life a bit harder but to win is always not easy. Our team knows what to do and will continue its everyday hard work.
So does the team increase the jackpot or does it happen autonomously? Have any of the partnerships resulted in an increase in ticket sales yet? I read that TrueFlip website was banned in Russia, an internet lottery's centralised weak point will always be its website. How would firelotto handle a situation like that, if for example the website gets blocked in one (or more) of its major markets? |
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April 02, 2018, 10:08:53 AM |
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In the lottery 4 of 20 in the jubilee 100 draw was won Jack Pot 4.86 ETH Congratulations to the winner!
And who was the winner? Good doctor Romad Demidov who is treating all incurable diseases? However, you are a funny guy |
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April 02, 2018, 10:34:04 AM
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Scammers are really trying to find something bad in the project Firelott.io. But all of them forget and avoid to talk about one MAJOR thing - FIRELOTTO.COM is a running lottery. Before running the ICO FireLotto team AT FIRST created a fully decentralized lottery platform, launched it and only after that started its ICO.
The main idea of ICO - is to raise funds for a PRIZE POOL to be big enough for people all over the world will be interested to play.
People play and win in Firelotto.com every day. Team enlarges the Jackpot every week and now days it is over 960 ETH.
So how all those things that SCAMERS talk about can influence a running lottery?!?!? I don't see a way.
Lets ask ourselves a question - Why would somebody so actively try to say so much shit about the project and avoid to admit obvious things like growing prize fund, running software, SEC confirmation, fiat payments, world known affiliate partners and etc?
The main purpose of saying shit is not to warn people to stay out from investing into a project. THE MAIN IDEA is to earn money for such criminal activity. Their business is very simple. The ask for money so they leave ICO alone. If ICO refuses they attack it on and promote their social accounts. Once the account been pumped up they sell. So SCAMERS do not real care of who to talk shit about. Its their little dirty business. And they are not talented enough to think of something else. To create. They only know how to anonymously destroy.
With such actions scammers do not help the project - they are trying to kill it and thus thee DO NO CARE AT ALL about investors.
Firelotto.io and firelotto.com is a successful project already. And no matter what SCAMERS will do its already in the ETH network, it can not be shut down or influenced by any body. People play and win every day, we will continue to increase prize fund and do affiliate integrations. Yes they make our life a bit harder but to win is always not easy. Our team knows what to do and will continue its everyday hard work.
So does the team increase the jackpot or does it happen autonomously? Have any of the partnerships resulted in an increase in ticket sales yet? I read that TrueFlip website was banned in Russia, an internet lottery's centralised weak point will always be its website. How would firelotto handle a situation like that, if for example the website gets blocked in one (or more) of its major markets? The team. We each week replenish the prize fund by 100eth and set a record for the lottery industry deductions in Jackpot at a rate of 70%. Partners are now preparing a large advertising campaign, we are implementing a number of integrations. But already there are good results. For example, 6 × 45 98 draw of 198 tickets, 99 draw of 568 tickets. All traffic can be analyzed over time. This is normal practice. The main promotion of the lottery is to work through referrals who will themselves engage in regional legalization |
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April 02, 2018, 01:15:45 PM |
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Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) Over on Telegram, he prefers to be known as AMB ASSADOR, rather than CEO. I believe he views himself with great importance.O yes! In Russian thread I found a very interesting photo, published by another scam buster. This is the photo from Mr. Roman Demidov Instagram, where he is stating, that he has a great experience in cancer treatment and already saved many lives... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2643539.msg28083032#msg28083032 |
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April 02, 2018, 01:17:39 PM |
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You can find code on github. Check WP. All code will be shown later after ico to prevent its usage by competitors
GitHub code is Closed Source, Old and Fake. Nobody is going to copy your fake code... It doesn't matter whether you will publish it, now, or in a few weeks. It's an essential part of your whole scam, that investors now can't have a look at it. And it's a disaster for everyone who invests straight into the dark. CLOSED SOURCE PROJECTS = SCAM!Firelotto.io and firelotto.com is a successful project already
No it is not. It is a closed source scam lottery that does not have a license and is operating illegally. Almost all team members of Fire Lotto including CEO, were involved at least in two confirmed scams called cashpokerpro and icolab.me (Check previous posts) |
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April 02, 2018, 03:07:44 PM |
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I thought you had taken me off your ridiculous list of "scammers", who have been after you since before I had even heard of your project. If "the team" adds money to the jackpot, and not an autonomously operating piece of software, it means your team is another point of centralization. |
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April 02, 2018, 03:18:55 PM |
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if your platform is already up and running, why are you running it? what do you want to change? And as I understand, the sale of tokens is very weak
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