This forum has become shit

[RadioActivetechguy]

From quite some time,there's been a lot going on in this forum,most of them are because of self-minded approach and money approach also despise and short-temper.

• To begin with, user OgNasty, a DT1 member is falsely giving negative trust to users like aTriz,owlcatz etc when they tried to oppose him with a trade where users thought the price was too much and asked whether or not OgNasty lied that he had engraved the collectible or not. The situation would have dissolved quickly but then things started getting heated and worse. We are seeing the outcome of it. Og,not cool ,what you're doing.
  
• People are scamming everywhere.
• Theymos isn't doing anything about the tons and tons of issues.
• Mods are polluted with work stress.
• People are coming up with various ways to avoid their ban and scam people.
• This forum has become a place for users having 100s of accounts and abusing campaigns and the lending section.
• Wannabes abusing the off-topic and politics board to increase their activity.
• Number of DT members are reducing too.
  

Does this belong to this section or meta?If anyone thinks I have created an alt to accuse OgNasty for any vivid reason,the answer is no. This account was created a few months ago,but I got busy with trading so left my account behind,so I thought of visiting the forum during the holidays,saw some messed up shit all across the forum.Please do not spam here by saying bull-shit and avoid off-topic posts.

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[Vod]

Post this using your main account and maybe people will take notice...   

[RadioActivetechguy]

Post this using your main account and maybe people will take notice...   

My only account?

[RadioActivetechguy]

pleas cek pm you sent may negatif to may account pleas

Son of a bitch,stop spamming my thread here,go and open your own thread. Though you deserve your negative rating,just look at your grammar.

Please do not spam here by saying bull-shit and avoid off-topic posts.

[Welsh]

People are scamming everywhere.

This has always been happening since the start of the forum. It was why the trust system and default trust was introduced. Various members try to combat it using the feedback on the trust page. Really, though anyone dealing with another user on the forum should use escrow.

Theymos isn't doing anything about the tons and tons of issues.

He's started two discussion threads about the recent problems and asked the communities feedback which to me looks like he's trying to do something about the current situation.

Most of the problems that you have mentioned has been happening since you have been registered though, so I don't quite understand how you see anything different. These problems have existed for at least a year now.

[RadioActivetechguy]

People are scamming everywhere.

This has always been happening since the start of the forum. It was why the trust system and default trust was introduced. Various members try to combat it using the feedback on the trust page. Really, though anyone dealing with another user on the forum should use escrow.

Tell me one thing,what's the use of people going after DT members or positive trust members to seek trust,its not going to benefit them financially given they are not scammers. I feel the green trust  system is somewhat useless during off-trades. About the escrow ,I fully agree with you.

Theymos isn't doing anything about the tons and tons of issues.

He's started two discussion threads about the recent problems and asked the communities feedback which to me looks like he's trying to do something about the current situation.
Most of the problems that you have mentioned has been happening since you have been registered though, so I don't quite understand how you see anything different. These problems have existed for at least a year now.

True,but then issues are issues. Theymos is an admin,he should try to do something not figuratively but literally. Creating threads and keeping quiet after that,not something which is expected of the admin,you can see how pissed hilariousetc/hilariousandco is,for the fact that theymos is ignoring quite a lot of queries. The new forum is been under devolopement since forever.
One more weird thing which I noticed was the amount of TX accelerators,people are using free ones,and users are paying them tips? What bull-shit is this man? Some sort of development is required.

[Welsh]

Tell me one thing,what's the use of people going after DT members or positive trust members to seek trust,its not going to benefit them financially given they are not scammers. I feel the green trust  system is somewhat useless during off-trades. About the escrow ,I fully agree with you.

I'm not sure I understand what you want to be answered, but for me personally I always check every trust that the user has before trading with them. Regardless, whether they are trusted feedback or untrusted.

True,but then issues are issues. Theymos is an admin,he should try to do something not figuratively but literally. Creating threads and keeping quiet after that,not something which is expected of the admin,you can see how pissed hilariousetc/hilariousandco is,for the fact that theymos is ignoring quite a lot of queries. The new forum is been under devolopement since forever.

It's likely that he will do something about it, but at the moment he's just collecting feedback from the community before implementing something to prevent future controversy. For example, it was requested numerous times to limit the amount of personal messages that we can be sent by a user, specifically newer accounts. That was implemented a little while ago, admittedly a bit overdue but it was implemented.

If you can add a few solutions to the current problems I imagine he would welcome that. Hilariousandco has been very outspoken throughout his time here, and I personally support some of the solutions he's came up with to curb the current issues with signature spam. Theymos has already ruled out his suggestions though.  

One more weird thing which I noticed was the amount of TX accelerators,people are using free ones,and users are paying them tips? What bull-shit is this man? Some sort of development is required.

There's a thread about this over here in the meta section currently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2625104.0

[RadioActivetechguy]

I'm not sure I understand what you want to be answered, but for me personally I always check every trust that the user has before trading with them. Regardless, whether they are trusted feedback or untrusted.

What I am trying to say is,why are people going after Green trust,what's the use if you're not going to trade? To join signature campaigns?

It's likely that he will do something about it, but at the moment he's just collecting feedback from the community before implementing something to prevent future controversy. For example, it was requested numerous times to limit the amount of personal messages that we can be sent by a user, specifically newer accounts. That was implemented a little while ago, admittedly a bit overdue but it was implemented.

Some good news,a little ray of hope is still there?

If you can add a few solutions to the current problems I imagine he would welcome that. Hilariousandco has been very outspoken throughout his time here, and I personally support some of the solutions he's came up with to curb the current issues with signature spam. Theymos has already ruled out his suggestions though.  

I'd love to add in suggestions but most of them are already suggested,if  ever I come up with some thing helpful,would definitely share.
People are scared of speaking against OgNasty?

[AdolfinWolf]

What I am trying to say is,why are people going after Green trust,what's the use if you're not going to trade? To join signature campaigns?

Why don't you ask that to your friend that you are "defending" here, "aTriz".  

[RadioActivetechguy]

What I am trying to say is,why are people going after Green trust,what's the use if you're not going to trade? To join signature campaigns?

Why don't you ask that to your friend that you are "defending" here, "aTriz".  

What in the? I ain't defending nobody. But yes,the rating left by OgNasty to aTriz is totally unnecessary. DT members are supposed to be level headed and not short-tempered.

[minifrij]

Og has been doing this for a while; he unfortunately won't be removed any time soon. If you disagree with it then you can counter his ratings or add ~OgNasty to your trust list, although these changes will likely only relate to yourself.

[Wendigo]

What I am trying to say is,why are people going after Green trust,what's the use if you're not going to trade? To join signature campaigns?

Why don't you ask that to your friend that you are "defending" here, "aTriz".  

What in the? I ain't defending nobody. But yes,the rating left by OgNasty to aTriz is totally unnecessary. DT members are supposed to be level headed and not short-tempered.

Why do you care so much about that dude "aTriz"? Some random dude on the Internet? Are you his mother father brother sister cousin or neighbor? Or are you his alt account? Because no one here cares about "aTriz" except you.
"aTriz" got some cozy business going on in here and now his account is fucked up right before Xmas Eve. Life is unfair eh mate? 

[RadioActivetechguy]

Og has been doing this for a while; he unfortunately won't be removed any time soon. If you disagree with it then you can counter his ratings or add ~OgNasty to your trust list, although these changes will likely only relate to yourself.

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Why do you care so much about that dude "aTriz"? Some random dude on the Internet? Are you his mother father brother sister cousin or neighbor? Or are you his alt account? Because no one here cares about "aTriz" except you.

Completely mistaken. Maybe you and AdolfinWolf are alts. But eh, I don't give a shit about it.
I do not care personally about aTriz or any one but what I am doing here is laying out the facts. Seems like the world will never run off from the likes of people like you.

"aTriz" got some cozy business going on in here and now his account is fucked up right before Xmas Eve.

That's sad.

Life is unfair eh mate? 

It is,you here are speaking from your own.

[Lauda]

Og has been doing this for a while; he unfortunately won't be removed any time soon. If you disagree with it then you can counter his ratings or add ~OgNasty to your trust list, although these changes will likely only relate to yourself.

* Lauda waits for you to get neg. rated or excluded for posting that.

 

[aTriz]

What I am trying to say is,why are people going after Green trust,what's the use if you're not going to trade? To join signature campaigns?

Why don't you ask that to your friend that you are "defending" here, "aTriz".  

What in the? I ain't defending nobody. But yes,the rating left by OgNasty to aTriz is totally unnecessary. DT members are supposed to be level headed and not short-tempered.

Why do you care so much about that dude "aTriz"? Some random dude on the Internet? Are you his mother father brother sister cousin or neighbor? Or are you his alt account? Because no one here cares about "aTriz" except you.
"aTriz" got some cozy business going on in here and now his account is fucked up right before Xmas Eve. Life is unfair eh mate? 

That's not my account. If I had anything to say I would just say it since I'm negged anyways.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Post this using your main account and maybe people will take notice...  

pleas cek pm you sent may negatif to may account pleas

LOL.  I haven't looked at the rest of this guy's post--I hope he just posted that to be ironic or whatever.  But it's posts EXACTLY like this that are making bitcointalk suck.  And we all know why, too.  Because of sig campaigns and the value that's placed on being a high-ranked member.  I'm seeing a ton of new accounts making bullshit posts like "Agree wit u bro", and they do that just so they can rank up (multiple) accounts.  Who wants to read garbage like that?

When I finally get a desktop computer and internet access from home, I'm going to start tagging account farmers/shitposters in earnest.  And in my mind there's little doubt who's doing it.  It's like pornography.  It's hard to define exactly, but you know it when you see it.

These problems have existed for at least a year now.

I was lurking in 2014-2015 before I created this account and it was pretty damn bad then.  Lately it's gotten a hellova lot worse, though.  Sig campaigns have turned into lucrative money-making ventures for the Philippines and other poor, undereducated (not just in English, either) countries and they've attracted people in those countries by the thousands.  It's great for them but horrible for the forum.

Let your anger fill you not by other on this forum. Maybe you're the only one on earth has this idea. Multitudes here like what they are doing. This world helps them to provide themselves. Don't be jealous.

Every fucking post of yours is completely uninteresting, zero-value garbage so far.  You might want to work on that.

[RadioActivetechguy]

LOL.  I haven't looked at the rest of this guy's post--I hope he just posted that to be ironic or whatever.  But it's posts EXACTLY like this that are making bitcointalk suck.  And we all know why, too.  Because of sig campaigns and the value that's placed on being a high-ranked member.  I'm seeing a ton of new accounts making bullshit posts like "Agree wit u bro", and they do that just so they can rank up (multiple) accounts.  Who wants to read garbage like that?

What can you do bout it too? Most of the bounty managers do not even read the participant's posts and they just put a limit of 100-500 participants and use a bot to count posts and check other stuff like signature or avatar. Though I don't know much about it,this is an issue here though.Shitposters ruining the forum.

When I finally get a desktop computer and internet access from home, I'm going to start tagging account farmers/shitposters in earnest.  And in my mind there's little doubt who's doing it.  It's like pornography.  It's hard to define exactly, but you know it when you see it.

I wish you good luck for your good cause and your future endeavours.

I was lurking in 2014-2015 before I created this account and it was pretty damn bad then.  Lately it's gotten a hellova lot worse, though.  Sig campaigns have turned into lucrative money-making ventures for the Philippines and other poor, undereducated (not just in English, either) countries and they've attracted people in those countries by the thousands.  It's great for them but horrible for the forum.

Though this is going to hurt of a lot people ,especially shit posters who don't understand anything,what you are saying is true. This forum has become more of a income generating site than a forum.

Every fucking post of yours is completely uninteresting, zero-value garbage so far.  You might want to work on that.

You think he is going to work on it? Y'all already know the answer for it.

Let your anger fill you not by other on this forum. Maybe you're the only one on earth has this idea. Multitudes here like what they are doing. This world helps them to provide themselves. Don't be jealous.

Maybe you are only bull-shitting.
And what is there to be jealous of?

[coolcoinz]

When I finally get a desktop computer and internet access from home, I'm going to start tagging account farmers/shitposters in earnest.  And in my mind there's little doubt who's doing it.  It's like pornography.  It's hard to define exactly, but you know it when you see it.

This is for now second best strategy right after banning them, but it will keep working only as long as tagged accounts remain banned from entering campaigns. If you tag enough of them some managers will surely set new rules that will allow tagged accounts post with reduced rates. Business is business.

I was lurking in 2014-2015 before I created this account and it was pretty damn bad then.  Lately it's gotten a hellova lot worse, though.  Sig campaigns have turned into lucrative money-making ventures for the Philippines and other poor, undereducated (not just in English, either) countries and they've attracted people in those countries by the thousands.  It's great for them but horrible for the forum.

It's not just a lucrative business for the poor, it's a gold mine. Some of you rich boys should realize that in those countries you're earning 20$ a day in a job, working your ass of in construction, docks, or driving a cab. Recently, when Bitcoin was closing to $20,000, campaigns were paying over 10$ for a post! One day spent on a forum can feed a family for a month in Pakistan, India, or Bangladesh . This is a life changing deal for those people and they will keep swarming here like locust trying to copy-paste and google translate until something is done.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Some of you rich boys

I don't consider myself rich, though the country I'm in may be considered better than some dirt-poor 3rd world country.  

Right now it looks as though campaigns have dried up--I can't find one to join!  I'm OK with that, but it is definitely fun earning an extra income just by posting here, which I do anyway.  It just galls me that these morons earn that much money, enough to live like a king in their shit country--and they're so fucking lazy and ignorant about it that they can't even be bothered to put in a minimum amount of effort!  Really, if you can feed your family with one day's work on bitcointalk, don't you think you should be writing pure fucking gold?  But no, they either copy/paste or rewrite those garbage "bitcoin is going up day by day so our profit increase" type posts.  It's sickening.  I want their money.  They don't deserve it.  They should be left to starve to death.

[crypt0holk1]

Yeah this thread is screaming maturity