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July 06, 2011, 10:51:51 PM |
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If he's trying to be a trademark troll, he'll fail hard. The moment he tries to extort money from one of us, let us know. It's easy to build a legal defense fund when we can send money near-instantaneously and anonymously.  hahah assuming you are referring to btc as payment, there is very little about bitcoin that is near-instantaneous or anonymous. and good luck finding a (good) lawyer that will accept only bitcoins as payment. |
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July 06, 2011, 10:53:49 PM |
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LOL check out their example of use in commerce: http://tdr.uspto.gov/jsp/DocumentViewPage.jsp?85353491/SPE20110625085727/Specimen/1/22-Jun-2011/sn/false#p=1A fucking letter wherein they sell one bitcoin for $17.50. I spoke to my IP attorney and he said that the application will be rejected since it has not yet been granted and a simple google search will prove that the filer is an idiot. There is only a filing date on this and no registration date which means it has not yet been issued. They have filed for International class 036 which is financial services and completely in the public domain. The only exception to the above is if Satoshi is secretly the filer in which case good for him. I highly doubt it though. Keep sending those protests and this will not be granted. |
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sadpandatech
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July 06, 2011, 10:56:09 PM |
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LOL check out their example of use in commerce: http://tdr.uspto.gov/jsp/DocumentViewPage.jsp?85353491/SPE20110625085727/Specimen/1/22-Jun-2011/sn/false#p=1A fucking letter wherein they sell one bitcoin for $17.50. I spoke to my IP attorney and he said that the application will be rejected since it has not yet been granted and a simple google search will prove that the filer is an idiot. There is only a filing date on this and no registration date which means it has not yet been issued. They have filed for International class 036 which is financial services and completely in the public domain. The only exception to the above is if Satoshi is secretly the filer in which case good for him. I highly doubt it though. Keep sending those protests and this will not be granted. lol, its not even a sales letter, its an 'Offer to Sell' ;p Jerks. Wish I was up in NY would atleast want to go give the guy the evil eye... |
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July 06, 2011, 10:57:53 PM |
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Keep sending those protests and this will not be granted.
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July 06, 2011, 10:58:42 PM |
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Even if it is valid, who are they going to sue? If they sue the owners of this forum, people will flock to another forum. We'll still happily use the term bitcoin.
Could we collectively file for a trademark and then release the word Bitcoin into the public domain? |
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July 06, 2011, 11:03:07 PM |
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Do what hackers do best; add a 'z'. Now it's "Bitcoinz". Quick, trademark it and grab the domains.
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I used to day trade Bitcoin successfully. Then I took an arrow to the knee.
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July 06, 2011, 11:14:17 PM |
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Google ads a threat to eBay trademark? ---> http://news.cnet.com/2100-1024_3-5061888.htmlI'm thinkin' 'bout getting a trademark for the verb "Googled": The only verb in the English language that MUST be capitalized for proper sentencing. (I don't think I penned that sentence correctly [the part after that 2 up-and-down dot doohickey]) Everybody else is more than welcome to trademark the verb...wait for it..."Goxed". |
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July 06, 2011, 11:23:03 PM |
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http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=9442.0I posted about someone doing a nefarious trademark application in relation to bitcoin.com back in may. Maybe the same guy who owns the domain is the one behind the trademark application ?
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July 06, 2011, 11:30:19 PM |
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yea compare the company name with bitcoin.com ... but you guys are SO not thinking big.... it's not the domain name!! That trademark is gonna spread to every single printed article, blog story, business that accepts bitcoins... ect ect...
It can potentially shut down the whole operation by large... yea it doesn't apply outside of the US... but that's a freaking huge market...
this has to stop now.
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July 07, 2011, 12:02:34 AM
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no, as far as I can tell not the same guy. And in response to your other thread his usage is not the same as Bitcoins and he would not be able to show any sales since he never, from as far as I can tell did any business. snapshot of the site shows what his business was planning to do. http://www.domaintools.com/seo-browser/?domain=bitcoin.comI can't find record of him even registing the 'Bitcoin Ltd' he has signed at the bottom of the page. In my search however I found a funny entry on Florida's biz site showing a 'Bitcoin Solutions LLC' registered 5/24/2011, with no FEIN or biz description listed. maybe conicidence but the guy lists an adress in Miama FL and one in NY. You have to atleast have a local agent in FL to register here, so no telling if they are here or in NY. edit; Bitcoin Sollutions LLc registered here the same day. edit2; none of it means much of anything just thought it to be interesting info to put out there. edit3; searhcing here on the forums for BS LLc answers some of it anyhows... |
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July 07, 2011, 12:17:59 AM |
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/pitchfork
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July 07, 2011, 12:24:00 AM |
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Even if it is valid, who are they going to sue? If they sue the owners of this forum, people will flock to another forum. We'll still happily use the term bitcoin.
Could we collectively file for a trademark and then release the word Bitcoin into the public domain? No, trademarks don't work like that. You have to defend them to keep them, which is why this is worthless. |
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grndzero
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July 07, 2011, 12:30:25 AM |
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the whole idea of bitcoin goes against trademarks and copyrights this is only proper  Open source doesn't automatically mean anti-copyright and it isn't always a bad thing to protect the authors rights. |
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July 07, 2011, 12:32:01 AM |
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the whole idea of bitcoin goes against trademarks and copyrights this is only proper Open source doesn't automatically mean anti-copyright and it isn't always a bad thing to protect the authors rights. agreed. P.S. Is your name any relation to the once in existence coffee house named, 'Gound Zero'? |
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July 07, 2011, 12:50:05 AM |
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the whole idea of bitcoin goes against trademarks and copyrights this is only proper Open source doesn't automatically mean anti-copyright and it isn't always a bad thing to protect the authors rights. agreed. P.S. Is your name any relation to the once in existence coffee house named, 'Gound Zero'? Nope, and I picked the name back in 2000 before Sept 11, 2001 also. |
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July 07, 2011, 01:19:26 AM |
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Pretty sure this is not a valid trademark. The term/name Bitcoin was already established before the date of the trademark.
This. I'm also pretty sure a trademark only allows for protection against uses of it that would hurt business for the trademark holder, too. Even if that's not true, the bitcoin community has been using the term for quite a while. Registered owner is "Magellan Capital Advisors". Looks like a banking outfit. Any use of BTC would surly compete with the established banking system. |
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July 07, 2011, 01:22:34 AM |
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FIRST USE: 20110622. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20110622
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Fail. Whoever get grief from those trademark sharks, get me as an expert witness. I'll testify that I have used term bitcoin in my contracts. ( Dated and signed ) way before 20110622. The case is closed. P.S. Gavin and many other people would be even stronger experts/witnesses. The whole block chain is proof. |
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July 07, 2011, 01:24:07 AM |
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Maybe they're getting ready to send out a flurry of cease and desist letters to people using the term bitcoin, and just figure everyone will be happy to settle out of court for some amount less than it would cost to litigate it and prove the mark is invalid.
It wouldn't be the first time someone did something along those lines.
Not likely. This appears to be a banking outfit. "Magellan Capital Advisors". |
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sadpandatech
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July 07, 2011, 01:25:31 AM |
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the whole idea of bitcoin goes against trademarks and copyrights this is only proper Open source doesn't automatically mean anti-copyright and it isn't always a bad thing to protect the authors rights. agreed. P.S. Is your name any relation to the once in existence coffee house named, 'Gound Zero'? Nope, and I picked the name back in 2000 before Sept 11, 2001 also. Rock on, yea the now closed coffee house was pre 9/11 as well... |
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