LABCOIN Speculation Thread

[damiano]

The price on this will run higher than what people are expecting... it's just so cheap to begin with.  Even if people sell at .002 it's cheap.  This is even more of a speculators dream than active mining.

The problem is that they dont really have anything to back it up. 130nm chips in Q4 2013? 65 nm in Q2 2014?
Competitors have 28nm coming in early Q4 2013.

I know that .

I own active and I know end year it's gonna be something.  As of right now they both are dreams .  I'm out of this as soon as I  get the profit I want

[dexX7]

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Want a high selling price? Very obvious, but: don't place asks! Really, don't do it and wait. The very thin orderbook after the transition from AMC-PT to ActM on btct was a very influential reason for the fast rise.

Edit: +30 min

[freedomno1]

Warms up on page 2
Swear I get more posts just observing stuff than anything else in bitcoin

[chsados]

The price on this will run higher than what people are expecting... it's just so cheap to begin with.  Even if people sell at .002 it's cheap.  This is even more of a speculators dream than active mining.

Here is a chance to put your money where your mouth is

Starting at 0.002/share https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265600.msg2843636#msg2843636

[damiano]

The price on this will run higher than what people are expecting... it's just so cheap to begin with.  Even if people sell at .002 it's cheap.  This is even more of a speculators dream than active mining.

Here is a chance to put your money where your mouth is

Starting at 0.002/share https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265600.msg2843636#msg2843636

I have 34k
I don't need anymore 

[freedomno1]

If I knew that it would be 40% when I woke up would have tripled my bids but I'm good

[damiano]

I might hold for a while since these guys will be starting sooner than anyone else.

BTC Garden is way overvalued at .016.  I believe in active, but there more 4th Q

[physalis]

Not with this clusterfuck of an IPO...

I can't see these guys having any staying power.

What have the actual issuers of the stock done wrong?  The excitement caused by the IPO was not expected by anyone, and they are rationally trying to make a fair solution for everyone instead of hastefully dumping the shares on the market.  So far it has been much more orderly than Activemining's IPO.

IPO's should be simple... x shares available, x bids to eat up those shares - top bids get eaten first

wheres the discussion to be had? it's absurd.

No, it's not absurd. It's how practically every real life IPO that has more initial demand than supply is handled.
It's the best and most fair way. An pre-IPO auction like you're suggesting is bound to create chaos and implode into itself.

[freedomno1]

IPO movements scare me a bit so I'll just observe have fun 

[physalis]

I'm really surprised at folks really expecting this to "crash".
Do you actually think it will crash below the IPO price? No fucking way. There was huge demand for the IPO for good reason: because compared to the possible outcome of this stock, the initial price was ridiculously low. You have ActM for example, who don't yet have anything to show for either, and their shares are traded at ~0.005 now, while they have a total of 25m shares. This one starts at 0.001 with only 10m shares. I see this easily trading at 0.005 short term, and higher in the long run.

[freedomno1]

Long term yes but immediately after the shares get released to the market it is hard to tell where the real price will settle at

[LordMeowMeow]

The price on this will run higher than what people are expecting... it's just so cheap to begin with.  Even if people sell at .002 it's cheap.  This is even more of a speculators dream than active mining.

The problem is that they dont really have anything to back it up. 130nm chips in Q4 2013? 65 nm in Q2 2014?
Competitors have 28nm coming in early Q4 2013.

Surprising comment coming from you. All you do is pimp out Actm. It has already been explained why they chose higher nm chips and why 28nm is both very expensive and risky. And unlike Ken the guys at Labcoin seem to have a really solid and reasonable plan backed up by facts, not just hype.

[N_S]

I'm really surprised at folks really expecting this to "crash".
Do you actually think it will crash below the IPO price? No fucking way. There was huge demand for the IPO for good reason: because compared to the possible outcome of this stock, the initial price was ridiculously low. You have ActM for example, who don't yet have anything to show for either, and their shares are traded at ~0.005 now, while they have a total of 25m shares. This one starts at 0.001 with only 10m shares. I see this easily trading at 0.005 short term, and higher in the long run.

I think the difference lies in future mining/product. Labcoin doesn't appear to be bringing anything new to the table, nor do they appear to be pursuing anything new (e.g. 28nm chips)

[ArcticWolf]

The price on this will run higher than what people are expecting... it's just so cheap to begin with.  Even if people sell at .002 it's cheap.  This is even more of a speculators dream than active mining.

The problem is that they dont really have anything to back it up. 130nm chips in Q4 2013? 65 nm in Q2 2014?
Competitors have 28nm coming in early Q4 2013.

Surprising comment coming from you. All you do is pimp out Actm. It has already been explained why they chose higher nm chips and why 28nm is both very expensive and risky. And unlike Ken the guys at Labcoin seem to have a really solid and reasonable plan backed up by facts, not just hype.

LOL on all points

[damiano]

The price on this will run higher than what people are expecting... it's just so cheap to begin with.  Even if people sell at .002 it's cheap.  This is even more of a speculators dream than active mining.

The problem is that they dont really have anything to back it up. 130nm chips in Q4 2013? 65 nm in Q2 2014?
Competitors have 28nm coming in early Q4 2013.

Surprising comment coming from you. All you do is pimp out Actm. It has already been explained why they chose higher nm chips and why 28nm is both very expensive and risky. And unlike Ken the guys at Labcoin seem to have a really solid and reasonable plan backed up by facts, not just hype.

I also pimp out bAsic
K thx bye

[VinceSamios]

looks like the post-ipo hype is over and people will start cashing out....

[freedomno1]

looks like the post-ipo hype is over and people will start cashing out....

Na I think its starting to enter its first trading range

[iCEBREAKER]

"The first run will yeild 1000-1500 chips @ 130nm, 300Mhz, Power 0.8W, 6.5x6.5mm design. With specs of 5 GH at 2.7W/GHash."

So, which one is it? 0.8W or 13.5W?
With that second value this chip will vaporize. Thermal resistances will not allow to operate so small die at so high temperatures...

I'm unimpressed.  All kinds of red flags abound.

The poorly-written asset profile at btct is heavy on puffy, flowery rhetoric and light on specifics.

If they've paid the NRE for their (obsolete) 130nm supposed wonder-chip, why not sell them before/after its delivery to raise funds for the next gen, instead of going public and hollowing out the 'private investors' equity?

Are the 'private investors' stupid, altruistic, scammers, or some combination?  Does not compute!

Swede is so clueless about hardware it hurts.  Sure, I had to google RTL and NRE, but have enough EECS background to understand the concepts behind the acronyms perfectly.  But I'd never confuse current gen (28nm) with next gen (22nm) die shrinks, or say stupid things like

What I can say is that nm density is a very small part of chip design and higher density does by no means automatically mean higher frequency or better efficiency.

Swede may have burned some bridges with his preemptive crapping on competitors' threads.

He's very unprofessional and has no business flailing around in his current role.  Kid is in way over his head.

[BitcoinBaBa]

So 4500 BTC worth of potential investors going to hit the market within some hours.
Will they gobble up some Labcoin shares too ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg2846658#msg2846658

[str4wm4n]

PANIC!