Medium Size Farm Buildout (Pics Added)

[NateDoggETH]

****I did create a new username because the last one was not the best and I could not change it. This is not my first post.****


As tax return season is coming quickly (for most people with typical jobs) my wife and I have decide to pull the trigger and run electricity to the shed in the backyard and start scaling our mining operation up.

We currently have a free 50amp breaker from a hot tub that was removed before purchasing the home. The house is set up for 200amps total base on the main switch I see on the Electrical Panel in the garage.

We are in the process of getting bids to run a sub panel to the shed for the electric. But before we have electricians come out and ask us questions that may be over our heads (like how many 220v and 110v would we need etc.) I figured I would ask for a rough idea on here. You advise will be just that.... advise for me to continue to brain storm on and have the final plan up hopefully by Feb. 1.

I would like to have 3 220v outlets that I would have 3 PDU plugged into for the miners so that if a given.

How many 110v outlets would be needed for fan (3-4 box fans for movement and 3 450 cfm vortex fans for heat exhaust--cool air will be from passive cooling because of the negative pressure.


Questions I wanna know before I ask someone in person:
1. If my panel is only 200amp, can we reduce any amps for the bedrooms to give more Amps for the shed?
2. Can we add a brand new 200amp box just dedicated for the shed but would be billed on the same electric bill monthly? (might be a eclectic company question)
3. Can I put the electrical wiring and the Ethernet wiring in the same trench or run them on the fence line to the shed to save from not digging? (Shed is approx. 170ft away from panel)

any possible ideas, or other things to think about please let me know. I don't want to spend $1000-$2000 just installing electric when there might be better ways

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[PushAllIn]

Questions I wanna know before I ask someone in person:
1. If my panel is only 200amp, can we reduce any amps for the bedrooms to give more Amps for the shed?

You have 200 total, entire house draw and draw per breaker different things.

2. Can we add a brand new 200amp box just dedicated for the shed but would be billed on the same electric bill monthly? (might be a eclectic company question)

You CAN add a 200A sub, but you need to understand MAX house draw and how much are you pulling so you can be sure not to overload your Main

3. Can I put the electrical wiring and the Ethernet wiring in the same trench or run them on the fence line to the shed to save from not digging? (Shed is approx. 170ft away from panel)

You can, some electricians will tell you there might be feedback/talkback/chatter whatever it's called usually there's a min distance so up to you really I haven't noticed any I ran an Ethernet on my 220 line no issues.

any possible ideas, or other things to think about please let me know. I don't want to spend $1000-$2000 just installing electric when there might be better ways

[NateDoggETH]

Questions I wanna know before I ask someone in person:
1. If my panel is only 200amp, can we reduce any amps for the bedrooms to give more Amps for the shed?

You have 200 total, entire house draw and draw per breaker different things.

2. Can we add a brand new 200amp box just dedicated for the shed but would be billed on the same electric bill monthly? (might be a eclectic company question)

You CAN add a 200A sub, but you need to understand MAX house draw and how much are you pulling so you can be sure not to overload your Main

3. Can I put the electrical wiring and the Ethernet wiring in the same trench or run them on the fence line to the shed to save from not digging? (Shed is approx. 170ft away from panel)

You can, some electricians will tell you there might be feedback/talkback/chatter whatever it's called usually there's a min distance so up to you really I haven't noticed any I ran an Ethernet on my 220 line no issues.

any possible ideas, or other things to think about please let me know. I don't want to spend $1000-$2000 just installing electric when there might be better ways

Thanks for the answers. When I lookat my main breaker switch (like if I turn it off it will turn everything off in the house) it says 200amps.

all my individual breakers are set at 20amps except for the 50amp breaker for the hot tub and I wanna say there was another 50 amp for the range in the kitchen. I wish I had time for an electrician to come and look and give a bid. working 8-6pm daily sucks when that's when all the electricians wanna go home.

[BeerMan81]

A shed buildout, my kind of project! Here is mine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2373161.0

If you have a 200A panel that really means you are only able to run 160A (200*80%). You have to leave some reserve for the house AC, Washer, Drier, Hot tub, (all high amerage items) etc. 200A is overkill actually. My home had a 100A panel, so we upgraded to 400A service and a dedicated 225A feed to the shed.

If you have the capacity, I would run 2-3 30A 220V circuits. Don't worry about the existing circuits because you are not using all that power. I don't think you need a dedicated sub-panel, but that is up to them. If you are going to spend the money, get as much ran out there as possible.

[melpheos]

I will respond to only one part : aim for as many 230v line you can.
It will save you electricityand you can pull more from PSU with 230v than with 110v

[NateDoggETH]

electrician came out last night and looked things over.

House is 200amps total but he estimated that we are using maybe 35% of that for the 2400sqft house.

I do have a dedicated 50amp breaker for a hot tub that was removed before we bought the home.

He gave me 2 options:

1. He said he could run a line from the 50amp to the shed since that is in the  main box already and that would give be enough for 8 rights. 11,000 watts total but wanted to keep it under 80% so I figured 8 rigs plus fans, network switch, overhead light, outside light at entrance, video security and monitors to view or troubleshoot each rig.

2. Run a 150amp subpanel from the main panel and have all new wiring, conduit, and run Ethernet easier that way also since we would be going from the house.

Bid should be coming in via email today or tomorrow. another electrician is wanting to come out for a bid today but I will be at work and cant leave so its frustrating.

[BeerMan81]

electrician came out last night and looked things over.

House is 200amps total but he estimated that we are using maybe 35% of that for the 2400sqft house.

I do have a dedicated 50amp breaker for a hot tub that was removed before we bought the home.

He gave me 2 options:

1. He said he could run a line from the 50amp to the shed since that is in the  main box already and that would give be enough for 8 rights. 11,000 watts total but wanted to keep it under 80% so I figured 8 rigs plus fans, network switch, overhead light, outside light at entrance, video security and monitors to view or troubleshoot each rig.

2. Run a 150amp subpanel from the main panel and have all new wiring, conduit, and run Ethernet easier that way also since we would be going from the house.

Bid should be coming in via email today or tomorrow. another electrician is wanting to come out for a bid today but I will be at work and cant leave so its frustrating.

Option 2 seems best! A 150A subpanel would give you 120A dedicated to the shed. If you are only using 35% of the 200A, that equates to 70A. 70A + 120A=190A. You are under your 200A main, but you are over the whole 160A target for continuous load. However, you will not pulling the 70A continuously. This is when you are running AC, doing laundry, microwave, etc all at the same time.

So... seems good!

[NateDoggETH]

electrician came out last night and looked things over.

House is 200amps total but he estimated that we are using maybe 35% of that for the 2400sqft house.

I do have a dedicated 50amp breaker for a hot tub that was removed before we bought the home.

He gave me 2 options:

1. He said he could run a line from the 50amp to the shed since that is in the  main box already and that would give be enough for 8 rights. 11,000 watts total but wanted to keep it under 80% so I figured 8 rigs plus fans, network switch, overhead light, outside light at entrance, video security and monitors to view or troubleshoot each rig.

2. Run a 150amp subpanel from the main panel and have all new wiring, conduit, and run Ethernet easier that way also since we would be going from the house.

Bid should be coming in via email today or tomorrow. another electrician is wanting to come out for a bid today but I will be at work and cant leave so its frustrating.

Option 2 seems best! A 150A subpanel would give you 120A dedicated to the shed. If you are only using 35% of the 200A, that equates to 70A. 70A + 120A=190A. You are under your 200A main, but you are over the whole 160A target for continuous load. However, you will not pulling the 70A continuously. This is when you are running AC, doing laundry, microwave, etc all at the same time.

So... seems good!

thanks for following up. if I can post pics on here easier I would. I know this shows my profile as a newbie but I recently changed usernames so im not 100% retarded when it comes to mining but at the same time im definitely not 100% an expert.

this is going to be a BIG journey for me but so far I am not disappointed with my 2 Rigs.

I will be having "the talk" with my wife tonight if its a good time to borrow and build out 5-6 rigs once the shed has the electric.

[NateDoggETH]

things are getting moving along for the shed build out.

met with the Electrician and his Journey man again last night for 1 final walk through for a complete bid.

I got approval from the boss lady to finance 4 new rigs as long as I do it as cheap as possible to get quickest ROI.

Coins can only be cashed out to pay for Equipment and Electricity and a itemized list of components for each rig must be provided. So easy stuff so far...

I am in the process of searching for 24 graphic cards (that's the budget for right now). Prefer 4gb unless I can get the 8gb for around the same costs. I pull the same hash rate from my RX570 4GB cards as I do my RX 570 8GB cards just better wattage.

We will continue to expand, but if I can get 24 cards for average cost of 250 I can have some extra funds for the hick ups that always happen.

If anyone has any tips on helping make this as cheap as possible let me know. I'm building 4 rigs with these components:

1x2 wood frame for each moving-$5
HP1200watt server PSU-$43.99
Evga 400watt PSU-$40
DDR4 288pin 4gb RAM-$53
Asus h27- Prime AR Motherboard-$101
SSD 60GB-$35
CPU-$55
Risers 6pack-$40

GPUs--unknown as of now

[CointoHash411]

things are getting moving along for the shed build out.

met with the Electrician and his Journey man again last night for 1 final walk through for a complete bid.

I got approval from the boss lady to finance 4 new rigs as long as I do it as cheap as possible to get quickest ROI.

Coins can only be cashed out to pay for Equipment and Electricity and a itemized list of components for each rig must be provided. So easy stuff so far...

I am in the process of searching for 24 graphic cards (that's the budget for right now). Prefer 4gb unless I can get the 8gb for around the same costs. I pull the same hash rate from my RX570 4GB cards as I do my RX 570 8GB cards just better wattage.

We will continue to expand, but if I can get 24 cards for average cost of 250 I can have some extra funds for the hick ups that always happen.

If anyone has any tips on helping make this as cheap as possible let me know. I'm building 4 rigs with these components:

1x2 wood frame for each moving-$5
HP1200watt server PSU-$43.99
Evga 400watt PSU-$40
DDR4 288pin 4gb RAM-$53
Asus h27- Prime AR Motherboard-$101
SSD 60GB-$35
CPU-$55
Risers 6pack-$40

GPUs--unknown as of now

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Do you have any followup with pictures of this thus far?
I currently am in the process of setting up an ASIC farm but will be building out a graphics card farm in the future.

-CointoHash411

[NateDoggETH]

I have the shed 100% cleared out except a workbench that I need a saws all to remove for more sq footage. Pics wil be coming up in the next week once I get electric and insulation run to the shed.

Still searching forbGPU between 200-280 per card if anyone can point me in a direction. Need 24-27 cards total. Must be brand new at RX570 4gb.

Thanks people

[NateDoggETH]

In the process of digging the trench by hand because of to many sprinklers or pool pipes. About 25% done on the trench and Monday electric will be installed. Moving quickly boys

[Unknown Suspect]

Buy these 240V PDU's. They are brand-new, sealed, and come with a TON of HD-quality powercables (c13/c14). https://www.ebay.com/itm/382243077501

I bought four kits. 20A PDU de-rated to 16A. Each comes with L6-20P main power cables to go to the wall but I bough L6-30P cables instead to fit my plugs. I bolted them to the side rail of my muscle-rack's from Home Depot using the hardware the kits come with (90 degree brackets). I'll upload some photos soon.

Look into installing a Eaton Ultimate whole-house surge protector: http://a.co/iiVm9K5 (super cheap now! $95). Install it properly using a 50-Amp breaker to maximize the full rating of the surge protector. I have yet to install mine as I had to order a quad-tandem breaker to make room for two more slots in my panel.

[CointoHash411]

Awesome, I hope all goes well with this build out. Share some photo and facts as you go along. I think we all want to know what is the 'good' and 'bad' in this buildout.

[NateDoggETH]

Awesome, I hope all goes well with this build out. Share some photo and facts as you go along. I think we all want to know what is the 'good' and 'bad' in this buildout.

So far I have had a few hick ups in the process.

we got the trench dug and realized that the area has a French drain and had to move the trench over about 8-12 inches. that was not that hard minus pulling out a tap root that weighted about 65 pounds after trimming it.

also, we had the trench dug, and of course we found all the pipes for the sprinkler system and wires for them also except for 1 jimmy rigged water pipe. it was exposed overnight because PVC and wire was being run the next day and the freezing temps caused it to burst.

This ended up being a crazy ordeal to deal with at 2am in 10f degrees but we got the water shut off and had the plumbers out to repair the line that night and the next day as the pipe cracked more under ground.

from what I was told last night, we would be testing electric and LAN on Saturday. Pics soon to come. this has been more of a stress getting the electric installed than previously thought it was. hoping for smooth sailing after this is all done. I will be putting in the rigs before adding the insulation though so that I can get them out of the house and actually hear for once. haha.

[NateDoggETH]

Progress Report on Shed build out.

sorry for the late update, as you will read, I've been under a weight of pressure

ALWAYS HAVE A CONTRACT IN HAVE BEFORE WORK BEGINS! IT HAS SAVED ME BIG TIME.

Master Electrician got upset at how slow the build was taking (his employees not mine) and demanding more money even though they where over budget per contract and time. All that is left is the ground rod to be installed and then we can test things out.

I have fired them obviously because they refused to do the ground rod unless I give them more money. then called back 2 hours later and apologized and said they want to at least finish the ground rod so things would be put together properly. (Prob cause they know ill go out and try to figure it out now myself). This is a little concerning I think don't y'all think?

I'm fine with hiring a new electrician to do it. I think they are worried about being sued for leaving it unsafe if I flip a switch or something and get electrocuted or something

so once ground rod is installed and I guess there is a copper wire that goes from that rod to the sub panel (someone confirm this for me if you can) I can test for connections. I want to know this information that way some electrician doesn't try to swindle me out of $$ also. I know ill have to pay for his time to confirm what I'm asking.

I have 10/3 wire for the 3-30 amp 240v breakers and then 12/2 for the 20 amp outlets.

I am going to wire the shed up to the point of the breaker box and outlet and then have a NEW master electrician do that work.


I do have all the parts ready and most of the GPUs modded but they need some tweaking in OverdrivenTool. I'm going to order new motherboards because I went cheap and I should have gotten Asus like my other rigs and also instead of 1000w server power supplies, I should have gotten 1200w server power supplies because the 1000w ones I ordered are running the GPUs one the break out board. My screw up again from all this pressure.

Let this be a teaching tool for people who build 1-2 rigs and see how easier it is and want to build 10k worth in gpus. take baby steps and don't rush the progress. I will get this done yes, but it has been a stress on me personally, and my family also as I'm handling the issues with this stuff and not spending time with them.

Im 100% in for ETH but at the same time, my family should be first too

So, once grounding rod and wires are run, I will be moving most of my equipment to the shed after the security system is installed (by me). I will post pics of the updates ones I can upload to computer. its mostly just a 175ft trench 20inch deep with conduit in it.

I know the photos that people are really wanting to see is the final progress. haha

[CointoHash411]

(NateDoggETH)

No problem 12/2 is fine as long as your carrying no more that 20 Amp load on it well technically 10% less than full load on the breaker. The grounding rod is important because well, a floating ground or neutral can mess-up sensitive electronics like miners :-) The copper wire running from the grounding rod must be connected to a grounding busbar inside of the sub-panel. That being said this is where the ground on your outlets connect to.

Hope this helps, oh an 'don't' for the love of god touch any of the 10/3 wires or an open/exposed panel. Yes an outlet can electrocute you, however a 10/3 is game over! with no instance replays.

[NateDoggETH]

(NateDoggETH)

No problem 12/2 is fine as long as your carrying no more that 20 Amp load on it well technically 10% less than full load on the breaker. The grounding rod is important because well, a floating ground or neutral can mess-up sensitive electronics like miners :-) The copper wire running from the grounding rod must be connected to a grounding busbar inside of the sub-panel. That being said this is where the ground on your outlets connect to.

Hope this helps, oh an 'don't' for the love of god touch any of the 10/3 wires or an open/exposed panel. Yes an outlet can electrocute you, however a 10/3 is game over! with no instance replays.

I'm going to pregame the wire then have a electrian do the stuff that I am afraid of dying from. With my luck, I'll still be alive, but have an enormous hospital bill and my ROI is gone. Lol.

So I'll have it ready, they to the wire connections, I stay alive. That's the plan as of tonight. Start to hang wire tomorrow night

[NateDoggETH]

Update on shed build out

I have gotten electric installed and 2x240v and 10x120v outlets set throughout the shed. I can add more 240v outlets as I need as well because I just stapled the wires to the studs and I am not putting up dry wall.

I also just about have insulation done throughout the shed. I just have the  ceiling to complete. I have 2x400 cfm vortex fans to exhaust heat from the shed through the ceiling hole and 1 window. I will have a another place for cooler air to be brought in from the shaded portion of the shed area. It will be a passive air flow system and just exhausting as much heat as possible. I will have the vortex fans set up but Saturday and I will have 3 of the 7 rigs in there by Sunday morning as a test run for temps.

This has been exhausting but rewarding experience. Next time, I definitely wont be going balls to the walls as quickly to not tire myself out. All rigs will be up and running by Feb 15th now and should be close to 1 GH/s now that I have a few extra cards that keep coming in. 

[CointoHash411]

Pictures I know many have asked. I think this is awesome for the build-out, many of us would like to see how things are coming along with all of this. Where is your location? are you in the U.S.  north, south, east, or west?