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January 05, 2018, 04:10:58 PM |
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as you said that we need to use 4% only from our capital to give more survival chance of our trading live, i think thats too small if we are talking about cryptocurrency trading. most likely we will end in loss and not in profit as we know the cryptocurrency chart run normally go back up in 75% opportunity. however, regarding no loss, we can calculate it monthly and make sure in the end of month we get profit although its small.
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i think a trader want to be successful in earning money must know how to loose first, if we loose on purpose to earn much better in the second trade, it can be called succes, but if we loose by fail trading, we can learn from our mistakes and improve it in the future, so in general, loosing make us complete our skills.
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January 05, 2018, 04:29:59 PM |
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Capitalization is one of the fundamental issues that significantly affect the trader's survival in this field or not, as well as the ratios of profits received and losses incurred, which may be doubled due to the lack of wise management of capital, whether large or medium As everyone knows that trading is a trade there is a possibility of profit and loss. Deleting from the capital first is the reduction of risks, in addition to achieving the greatest gains and theoretically as a simple definition is the risk or the transaction by a percentage of capital in return for the biggest profit in the sense of starting from the background of I risked a small amount of money in order to make another profit. This is to capitalize in a professional way, especially in a volatile market such as the digital currency market. - It has nothing to do with the capital of the analysis, whatever its kind - technical - basic - digital because I will not only win a good capital appreciation and then enter my deals randomly on the belief that I will win and this is wrong, - Stop loss and the best ratios as I always say is 4%. Returning to the previous point you will find that if your technical, technical and basic studies are good, you will find that the stop loss has been done and after the evaluation, which is better to be monthly for the deals you will find that 70 % Of transactions were often successful when we were studying a particular currency and for example setting a point of entry, especially on the basis of data available to you, the market will often follow your expectations and as a stop loss ratio, There is, of course, a difference in capital inflow between small cap capital ($ 100- $ 2000), medium (2001- $ 15k) and large ($$$$$) But what brings together all is that I do not put all the eggs in one basket, that is to leave any transaction with any capital even if my analysis indicates high rates that this currency will rise and I will stop the loss It would be good if you are a newbie and a small capital to take the amount Which started with a tax for learning, but a large adventure may blow the capital of my capital and divide my capital into three parts of the Scalping any quick deals with a stop loss less than 4 percent to keep the capital for as long as possible in which I try and implement all the strategies that I had previously learned and part of the storage in the short term from two to two months as I kept on W Emergency and surprises may occur and the need to strengthen the former My Position For medium people, I recommend starting the distribution of capital on several platforms and working centrally on storage strategies with a stop loss rate of 6% to 10% and up to 15% which we will talk to in the next few days, God willing, but the deals of Scalping must be entered in high percentages of the part Which is allocated to it more than the past, especially after gaining experience + reduction of the stop loss so as not to lose a lot and in return I try to profit more than that to increase profit margin almost content and more important to provide part of the profits of another profitable project is mining. As for the owners of the capital, the big money (people know the job ) and I do not think they need my humble advice
This seems illogical as trading is only profits and losses as you can gain when market is up and vice-versa so loss is a part of trading.You cant turn it down but you can reduce your loss risk by making good plans and strategies.Even big businessmen suffer this but recover them with good plans.So erode this thought and gain experience and move on with profits.
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January 05, 2018, 05:28:03 PM |
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i think a trader want to be successful in earning money must know how to loose first, if we loose on purpose to earn much better in the second trade, it can be called succes, but if we loose by fail trading, we can learn from our mistakes and improve it in the future, so in general, loosing make us complete our skills.
Well I guess there is nine of the successful traders that exist today that didn't even been there of their losses. I don't know that there's any formula that we can use to avoid this what we called losses. And there's no such thing that we can assure that we can trade without losses.
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January 05, 2018, 05:28:51 PM |
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i think a trader want to be successful in earning money must know how to loose first, if we loose on purpose to earn much better in the second trade, it can be called succes, but if we loose by fail trading, we can learn from our mistakes and improve it in the future, so in general, loosing make us complete our skills.
Losses cannot be avoided in the world of trading and even in the real businesses out there. Losses I guess is somewhat kind of principle of business besides losses are sometimes didn't come in our way to just defeat us, they are come in our way to just teach us some much important thing to be learned more than those what we've learned every time were got always a successful trading.
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January 05, 2018, 05:33:28 PM |
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i think a trader want to be successful in earning money must know how to loose first, if we loose on purpose to earn much better in the second trade, it can be called succes, but if we loose by fail trading, we can learn from our mistakes and improve it in the future, so in general, loosing make us complete our skills.
Losses cannot be avoided in the world of trading and even in the real businesses out there. Losses I guess is somewhat kind of principle of business besides losses are sometimes didn't come in our way to just defeat us, they are come in our way to just teach us some much important thing to be learned more than those what we've learned every time were got always a successful trading. Yes definitely it's true that losses is inevitable in this kind of business or even in any kind of businesses in real. We can read those we are so called some ideal tips that would help us achieve trading without losses but this is the only one thing i could tell, there is no such thing as ideal. All of the result of our actions are depend on our decisions. And i bet that there is no successful traders that didn't undergo this what we called loses.
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January 05, 2018, 05:47:37 PM |
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I really do not think it's possible to trade without losing. Even the experts at trading lose. It's just a matter of how well you read your charts. Still, no matter how better one is at reading charts, one still loses.
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January 05, 2018, 06:05:49 PM |
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It is absolutely impossible to trade as a day-to-day trader without incurring set level of losses from time to time. Even bots that uses artificial intelligence don't even guarantee a 100 percent win trade all the time. The spirit and strategy is to always ensure that your wins are more than your losses cumulatively.
Day trading is even the craziest but with good strategy, you can always make good calls and even the losses may just be insubstantial at the end of the day as you make use of your stop loss. The OP really do have a lot of point and if you can always put this into your strategy in the crypto world, coupled with some risk management, then you will always do well. However, losses will always be there, it is just how you use these strategies that would make you not to even feel it.
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January 05, 2018, 07:11:52 PM |
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The thing is there is no way you can trade without losses, some days you get good trades and profit but there will be days that you get losses and that part of trading. You can't win every trade, that's practically impossible, unless you can predict the future then that's the only way you can trade without even incurring a loss which is much more improbable. I think it's really just part of trading and you can't remove that part of trading.
the context is, how we should be able to find more information from the development of crypto currency. as detailed as possible this information should be we can get. so we can avoid the loss. our hope of winning every trade is difficult. but we can minimize the defeat that we may suffer. with that we can make our chances to gain profit
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January 05, 2018, 07:39:01 PM |
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Capitalization is one of the fundamental issues that significantly affect the trader's survival in this field or not, as well as the ratios of profits received and losses incurred, which may be doubled due to the lack of wise management of capital, whether large or medium As everyone knows that trading is a trade there is a possibility of profit and loss. Deleting from the capital first is the reduction of risks, in addition to achieving the greatest gains and theoretically as a simple definition is the risk or the transaction by a percentage of capital in return for the biggest profit in the sense of starting from the background of I risked a small amount of money in order to make another profit. This is to capitalize in a professional way, especially in a volatile market such as the digital currency market. - It has nothing to do with the capital of the analysis, whatever its kind - technical - basic - digital because I will not only win a good capital appreciation and then enter my deals randomly on the belief that I will win and this is wrong, - Stop loss and the best ratios as I always say is 4%. Returning to the previous point you will find that if your technical, technical and basic studies are good, you will find that the stop loss has been done and after the evaluation, which is better to be monthly for the deals you will find that 70 % Of transactions were often successful when we were studying a particular currency and for example setting a point of entry, especially on the basis of data available to you, the market will often follow your expectations and as a stop loss ratio, There is, of course, a difference in capital inflow between small cap capital ($ 100- $ 2000), medium (2001- $ 15k) and large ($$$$$) But what brings together all is that I do not put all the eggs in one basket, that is to leave any transaction with any capital even if my analysis indicates high rates that this currency will rise and I will stop the loss It would be good if you are a newbie and a small capital to take the amount Which started with a tax for learning, but a large adventure may blow the capital of my capital and divide my capital into three parts of the Scalping any quick deals with a stop loss less than 4 percent to keep the capital for as long as possible in which I try and implement all the strategies that I had previously learned and part of the storage in the short term from two to two months as I kept on W Emergency and surprises may occur and the need to strengthen the former My Position For medium people, I recommend starting the distribution of capital on several platforms and working centrally on storage strategies with a stop loss rate of 6% to 10% and up to 15% which we will talk to in the next few days, God willing, but the deals of Scalping must be entered in high percentages of the part Which is allocated to it more than the past, especially after gaining experience + reduction of the stop loss so as not to lose a lot and in return I try to profit more than that to increase profit margin almost content and more important to provide part of the profits of another profitable project is mining. As for the owners of the capital, the big money (people know the job ) and I do not think they need my humble advice
Trading in itself needs a careful and critical attention, you don't just put all your eggs in one basket, as all is prone to getting broken. This is a really helpful Piece for small capital investors if not the big owners of capital. Gracias
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January 05, 2018, 07:46:22 PM |
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In every business some time you gain profit and some time you suffer losses. So, it is natural. You have to start trading keep this in mind.
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In every business some time you gain profit and some time you suffer losses. So, it is natural. You have to start trading keep this in mind.
Yeah, you will never be called a trader if you haven't encountered a loss. Trading is a learning process, no matter how good or established your strategies are, there will be times that you will encounter defeat and loss.
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January 06, 2018, 02:00:41 AM |
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Capitalization is one of the fundamental issues that significantly affect the trader's survival in this field or not, as well as the ratios of profits received and losses incurred, which may be doubled due to the lack of wise management of capital, whether large or medium As everyone knows that trading is a trade there is a possibility of profit and loss. Deleting from the capital first is the reduction of risks, in addition to achieving the greatest gains and theoretically as a simple definition is the risk or the transaction by a percentage of capital in return for the biggest profit in the sense of starting from the background of I risked a small amount of money in order to make another profit. This is to capitalize in a professional way, especially in a volatile market such as the digital currency market. - It has nothing to do with the capital of the analysis, whatever its kind - technical - basic - digital because I will not only win a good capital appreciation and then enter my deals randomly on the belief that I will win and this is wrong, - Stop loss and the best ratios as I always say is 4%. Returning to the previous point you will find that if your technical, technical and basic studies are good, you will find that the stop loss has been done and after the evaluation, which is better to be monthly for the deals you will find that 70 % Of transactions were often successful when we were studying a particular currency and for example setting a point of entry, especially on the basis of data available to you, the market will often follow your expectations and as a stop loss ratio, There is, of course, a difference in capital inflow between small cap capital ($ 100- $ 2000), medium (2001- $ 15k) and large ($$$$$) But what brings together all is that I do not put all the eggs in one basket, that is to leave any transaction with any capital even if my analysis indicates high rates that this currency will rise and I will stop the loss It would be good if you are a newbie and a small capital to take the amount Which started with a tax for learning, but a large adventure may blow the capital of my capital and divide my capital into three parts of the Scalping any quick deals with a stop loss less than 4 percent to keep the capital for as long as possible in which I try and implement all the strategies that I had previously learned and part of the storage in the short term from two to two months as I kept on W Emergency and surprises may occur and the need to strengthen the former My Position For medium people, I recommend starting the distribution of capital on several platforms and working centrally on storage strategies with a stop loss rate of 6% to 10% and up to 15% which we will talk to in the next few days, God willing, but the deals of Scalping must be entered in high percentages of the part Which is allocated to it more than the past, especially after gaining experience + reduction of the stop loss so as not to lose a lot and in return I try to profit more than that to increase profit margin almost content and more important to provide part of the profits of another profitable project is mining. As for the owners of the capital, the big money (people know the job ) and I do not think they need my humble advice
To be honest, I don't know why others keep on asking on how to trade without losing money because obviously, it is all part of trading. Trading was known as the game by those successful traders because they have encountered losing money. To those newbies, we had different strategies and for every strategy there is a weakness, so it is better to be open minded for what are the possibilities in dealing with trading.
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January 06, 2018, 02:30:34 AM |
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Capitalization is one of the fundamental issues that significantly affect the trader's survival in this field or not, as well as the ratios of profits received and losses incurred, which may be doubled due to the lack of wise management of capital, whether large or medium As everyone knows that trading is a trade there is a possibility of profit and loss. Deleting from the capital first is the reduction of risks, in addition to achieving the greatest gains and theoretically as a simple definition is the risk or the transaction by a percentage of capital in return for the biggest profit in the sense of starting from the background of I risked a small amount of money in order to make another profit. This is to capitalize in a professional way, especially in a volatile market such as the digital currency market. - It has nothing to do with the capital of the analysis, whatever its kind - technical - basic - digital because I will not only win a good capital appreciation and then enter my deals randomly on the belief that I will win and this is wrong, - Stop loss and the best ratios as I always say is 4%. Returning to the previous point you will find that if your technical, technical and basic studies are good, you will find that the stop loss has been done and after the evaluation, which is better to be monthly for the deals you will find that 70 % Of transactions were often successful when we were studying a particular currency and for example setting a point of entry, especially on the basis of data available to you, the market will often follow your expectations and as a stop loss ratio, There is, of course, a difference in capital inflow between small cap capital ($ 100- $ 2000), medium (2001- $ 15k) and large ($$$$$) But what brings together all is that I do not put all the eggs in one basket, that is to leave any transaction with any capital even if my analysis indicates high rates that this currency will rise and I will stop the loss It would be good if you are a newbie and a small capital to take the amount Which started with a tax for learning, but a large adventure may blow the capital of my capital and divide my capital into three parts of the Scalping any quick deals with a stop loss less than 4 percent to keep the capital for as long as possible in which I try and implement all the strategies that I had previously learned and part of the storage in the short term from two to two months as I kept on W Emergency and surprises may occur and the need to strengthen the former My Position For medium people, I recommend starting the distribution of capital on several platforms and working centrally on storage strategies with a stop loss rate of 6% to 10% and up to 15% which we will talk to in the next few days, God willing, but the deals of Scalping must be entered in high percentages of the part Which is allocated to it more than the past, especially after gaining experience + reduction of the stop loss so as not to lose a lot and in return I try to profit more than that to increase profit margin almost content and more important to provide part of the profits of another profitable project is mining. As for the owners of the capital, the big money (people know the job ) and I do not think they need my humble advice
To be honest, I don't know why others keep on asking on how to trade without losing money because obviously, it is all part of trading. Trading was known as the game by those successful traders because they have encountered losing money. To those newbies, we had different strategies and for every strategy there is a weakness, so it is better to be open minded for what are the possibilities in dealing with trading. You're absolutely correct, its impossible to trade without lossing money which the value will fluctuates from time to time and also the transaction fee will affects also that needs to be paid. Also, there are a lots of process like if you want to have a reliable and fast transaction which you can choose having a distinct amount. We have our thoughs and ways on how to deal on it. Somehow, we need to gamble in order to cashout our desired amount even if there is a high transaction fee.
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January 06, 2018, 07:09:13 AM |
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It is worth remembering that Bitcoin is not subject to news fluctuations associated with these or other usual important events. From news here it is more necessary to watch those who are connected with it. For example: some country has sharply limited the law to their use or vice versa decided to encourage the expansion of the turnover of this type of payment means.
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January 06, 2018, 07:48:30 AM |
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There is no perfect trade. every trader even a professional one encounters losing trade. the difference is that their losses is small compare to their profit. i think that is what they called risk management or money management.
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January 06, 2018, 09:16:41 AM |
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Its....so hard ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) No losses no lessons learned.
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January 06, 2018, 04:03:53 PM |
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it is really impossible, i dont think without loss you can be a good traders. you must have to lose something then you can learn somethink from your loss.
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January 06, 2018, 05:12:03 PM |
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No body can trade without losses, all trader has been lose but from their lose they learned more what the mistake. And then from that mistake they build new strategy and new risk management. So continue to learn will make become experienced trader and expert to gain consistent profit.
Yeah, most people usually feel you can just have some patience and then the market will be back up, but that is bullshit to me because you may wait for so long while you are missing on some good trade. We cannot always get it all times and sometimes even when we think we have gotten it all with the strategies, then we end up noticing that the market ends up doing something else it likes, and with that, stop loss is necessary. Marginal trading actually helps a lot and you can actually get your profit back on your trade when the market is about to get back up and which is why it is good never to trade with everything at once, but at the same time, this depends on your style of trading as most times, it is just better to stop loss and move on to a trade but for this style of trading, you can really get a lot back when you get back in a good position.
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January 06, 2018, 05:13:18 PM |
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I really do not think it's possible to trade without losing. Even the experts at trading lose. It's just a matter of how well you read your charts. Still, no matter how better one is at reading charts, one still loses.
whose name loss in trading is commonplace, which must be done as a trader is how to minimize losses from trading
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