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September 17, 2013, 09:56:16 AM
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Sure!

But we're still missing those 1.5 TH/s.

I'd like to know: why did he leave and where has he gone.

I mean, we should know why people leave otherwise in a couple of difficulty jumps mining here and mining solo will mostly be the same...

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September 17, 2013, 11:59:14 PM
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Sure!

But we're still missing those 1.5 TH/s.

I'd like to know: why did he leave and where has he gone.

I mean, we should know why people leave otherwise in a couple of difficulty jumps mining here and mining solo will mostly be the same...

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If it's who I think it is, I might be seeing him tonight, I'll try and coax him back on the pool. Not positive it is though.

People seem to be pretty fickle about jumping hash power when pools get unlucky. I don't understand it, either just split it and keep it split or don't move it. It all averages out and nobody is good at 'picking winners'.
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September 18, 2013, 06:14:36 AM
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If it's who I think it is, I might be seeing him tonight, I'll try and coax him back on the pool. Not positive it is though.


Well, even if he does not come back, I'd like to know why he moved and where he moved Smiley

We're in a chicken and egg situation, we need moar power to attract people which will add moar power which...

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September 19, 2013, 06:40:38 AM
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One good today, but one orpahan yesterday...

fireduck, can you verify all is working ok?

I mean, for months we had 1 orpahan/month, our hashing power being more or less the same, in september alone we have 5 blocks plus one on august 31st.  Undecided

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September 19, 2013, 06:43:40 AM
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btw, neither blockchain.info nor blockexplorer can find this block

http://blockchain.info/search?search=0000000000000003d533f6fb39cd86f0f6f83de5ad2a4965593e0a5601b93e89

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September 19, 2013, 07:04:00 AM
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Don't know what block you are looking at.  Don't see that in the last few days of found blocks....
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September 19, 2013, 07:10:44 AM
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Don't know what block you are looking at.  Don't see that in the last few days of found blocks....

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it's the last orpahan.

In march we had 6 orpahan though, so this is not the first time...

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September 20, 2013, 09:14:51 PM
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Oh well,

I've left a call to arms...

If it really happens that a sizeable chunks of BitCentury customers points their miners here... well, dreaming costs nothing, doesn't it?

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ps. A small pool like this finds it hard to have users joining it one after the other, because new users prefer to point their gears to a bigger one for reduced variance, but if five or ten TH/s (I don't know how many TH/s BitCentury sold) come here all at the same time, it should work, since everyone reduces the variance that the others feel.

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September 21, 2013, 04:41:58 AM
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It looks like miners have their rigs on rotate.
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September 21, 2013, 05:26:21 PM
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It seems we're talking about 6 TH/s which would double us (if they ever come) and make HHTT a little less the size of p2pool.

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September 22, 2013, 06:56:13 AM
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Three blocks, but another "strange" orpahan, strange in that it is not found on blockchain.info


http://blockchain.info/search?search=00000000000000078b9fc485c97a58595752ef178dedb8ada97eb634212e21f4


it has the same hour of a found block, just a few seconds later, so was it not even submitted to the bitcoin network?

Is it a real orpahan?

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September 22, 2013, 07:56:16 AM
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it has the same hour of a found block, just a few seconds later, so was it not even submitted to the bitcoin network?

Is it a real orpahan?
I have had the same on my pool which uses the same stratum software as HHTT. I wonder if there's an issue somewhere. I'd get a 'block' with 20 seconds of another which is never submitted to the network.
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September 22, 2013, 08:59:25 AM
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It looks like Blockchain.info does not update orphaned blocks fast enough "20 SEP" is the last orphan , or it could be here https://blockchain.info/rejected
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September 22, 2013, 10:45:33 AM
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Here's the discussion on my pool about the same same short block/orphan issue.
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September 22, 2013, 05:03:26 PM
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I think one of the causes of orphans is that my bitcoind instances are taking 5-10 seconds to do a getblocktemplate so we end up working on the old block longer than we should.

I've done some testing and this seems to be due to not good disk latency on AWS EC2 instances.  I've done testing with Google Compute Engine and numbers there are much better.

I've setup a test instance, us-central on GCE and am doing some production testing there.  If it goes well, I'll switch everyone over to GCE probably this week.

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September 22, 2013, 05:26:15 PM
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I think one of the causes of orphans is that my bitcoind instances are taking 5-10 seconds to do a getblocktemplate so we end up working on the old block longer than we should.

I've done some testing and this seems to be due to not good disk latency on AWS EC2 instances.  I've done testing with Google Compute Engine and numbers there are much better.

I've setup a test instance, us-central on GCE and am doing some production testing there.  If it goes well, I'll switch everyone over to GCE probably this week.


Are you running the latest bitcoind?  5-10 seconds is a very long time, even for the crappy performance you get with AWS.  GBT is very single-core CPU and HDD intensive, and AWS uses many-cores with relatively slow clock rates, and disk access speeds are always garbage.

Best specs you can get for GBT:  High clock speed modern CPU (E3-1230v2 is beastly for this since it has a 3.7 Ghz turbo, 3.3 baseline), and SSD.  Another alternative is storing the blockchain on a ramdisk, but that's only an option if you've got a dedicated machine with 32GB+ of RAM.

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September 22, 2013, 05:40:48 PM
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I think one of the causes of orphans is that my bitcoind instances are taking 5-10 seconds to do a getblocktemplate so we end up working on the old block longer than we should.

I've done some testing and this seems to be due to not good disk latency on AWS EC2 instances.  I've done testing with Google Compute Engine and numbers there are much better.

I've setup a test instance, us-central on GCE and am doing some production testing there.  If it goes well, I'll switch everyone over to GCE probably this week.


Are you running the latest bitcoind?  5-10 seconds is a very long time, even for the crappy performance you get with AWS.  GBT is very single-core CPU and HDD intensive, and AWS uses many-cores with relatively slow clock rates, and disk access speeds are always garbage.

Best specs you can get for GBT:  High clock speed modern CPU (E3-1230v2 is beastly for this since it has a 3.7 Ghz turbo, 3.3 baseline), and SSD.  Another alternative is storing the blockchain on a ramdisk, but that's only an option if you've got a dedicated machine with 32GB+ of RAM.

Yep, latest bitcoind.  Yeah, GBT seems to be entirely disk latency based.  I can't really afford the high memory machines for this project.

Anyways, with GCE I am getting 0.05 seconds for getblocktemplate which is quite an improvement for very similar price.

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September 23, 2013, 02:27:29 AM
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I think one of the causes of orphans is that my bitcoind instances are taking 5-10 seconds to do a getblocktemplate so we end up working on the old block longer than we should.

I've done some testing and this seems to be due to not good disk latency on AWS EC2 instances.  I've done testing with Google Compute Engine and numbers there are much better.

I've setup a test instance, us-central on GCE and am doing some production testing there.  If it goes well, I'll switch everyone over to GCE probably this week.


New nodes are up.  stratum.hhtt.1209k.com is pointing to them.

They are:
us-central-1.hhtt.1209k.com
us-central-2.hhtt.1209k.com
eu-west-1.hhtt.1209k.com

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September 23, 2013, 03:42:48 AM
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But we're still missing those 1.5 TH/s.

I'd like to know: why did he leave and where has he gone.

Talked with him again this past week. He no longer controls the hashpower is my understanding.
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September 23, 2013, 06:25:26 AM
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I think one of the causes of orphans is that my bitcoind instances are taking 5-10 seconds to do a getblocktemplate so we end up working on the old block longer than we should.

I've done some testing and this seems to be due to not good disk latency on AWS EC2 instances.  I've done testing with Google Compute Engine and numbers there are much better.

I've setup a test instance, us-central on GCE and am doing some production testing there.  If it goes well, I'll switch everyone over to GCE probably this week.


New nodes are up.  stratum.hhtt.1209k.com is pointing to them.

They are:
us-central-1.hhtt.1209k.com
us-central-2.hhtt.1209k.com
eu-west-1.hhtt.1209k.com


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