[ANN][SGL] Sigil - Decentralized, 0% Fee Crowdfunding

[JITjit]

Is anybody here?

[mpchua]

Hi Dev, any update on roadmap? What is the next step going to do? The develop seem stop right now. As a miner and investor. I am so worry.

[fsrebel]

developers have not appeared here for a long time....



What about the price?

[Kinsey]

Developers have created a new website design and logo. Looks great

[Follower007]

where to buy it?

[fsrebel]

where to buy it?

https://stocks.exchange/trade/SGL/BTC

[cryptohottie]

What an amazing game plan! I will be keeping an eye on this one as it becomes more developed

[xxmetalmartyrxx]

Here to shine some light on devs staking the pre mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/sigilplatform/comments/7w6n4m/an_issue_with_sgl_not_spreading_fud_just_an/?ref=share&ref_source=link

[cdawall]

Here to shine some light on devs staking the pre mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/sigilplatform/comments/7w6n4m/an_issue_with_sgl_not_spreading_fud_just_an/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Are you going to spam your personal opinion everywhere?

Staking their own coins to pay for anything and everything that has to do with the coins makes business sense. I am sorry it hurts your feelings and you think they will just use any money made to be "rich"

Here is my personal opinion, I don't care if they are staking. I would prefer if they staked ALL of their coins because they as the developers deserve to be paid for their work. If you don't like that they have staked it make your own coin up, use your own rules. I mean this whole "I know best" attitude is by far the most frustrating part of the web warriors stalking all the coins. Half the "shitcoin" callouts are about as fake news as it gets.

[hieumaotnvn1]

Here to shine some light on devs staking the pre mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/sigilplatform/comments/7w6n4m/an_issue_with_sgl_not_spreading_fud_just_an/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Are you going to spam your personal opinion everywhere?

Staking their own coins to pay for anything and everything that has to do with the coins makes business sense. I am sorry it hurts your feelings and you think they will just use any money made to be "rich"

Here is my personal opinion, I don't care if they are staking. I would prefer if they staked ALL of their coins because they as the developers deserve to be paid for their work. If you don't like that they have staked it make your own coin up, use your own rules. I mean this whole "I know best" attitude is by far the most frustrating part of the web warriors stalking all the coins. Half the "shitcoin" callouts are about as fake news as it gets.

I agree with this.

[Ayers]

dev is mia or what when better exchange?

[fsrebel]

developers here?
Is the coin alive?
What about the price?
what is the future of this coin?

[HotSwapp]

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[dkmontague]

Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout.  The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.  

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins?  Absolutely ridiculous.  

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate.  Fucking greed is all this is.  

At this point, I dont even care about the coins and just want this project dead so the greedy devs arent making money off the community.  Especially off people who are buying the coins they stake with their hard-earned BTC.  

This project had potential but they have made it just another crypto joke on investors.  Fuck these guys.

[cdawall]

Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout.  The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.  

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins?  Absolutely ridiculous.  

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate.  Fucking greed is all this is.  

At this point, I dont even care about the coins and just want this project dead so the greedy devs arent making money off the community.  Especially off people who are buying the coins they stake with their hard-earned BTC.  

This project had potential but they have made it just another crypto joke on investors.  Fuck these guys.

With roughly 2000 coins how do you have those coins split up? Did you leave everything on auto? Is the wallet open 24/7 on an internet connected machine?

This is just one of my wallets. It has been closed up multiple days in between these due to weather or the rig it runs being down for service of some sort (I use it for GPU BIOS mods and testing trouble cards before RMA)

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture068.jpg

If you notice it has hit PoS multiple times (and this does not show orphan hits). That is with inputs as low as 50.xx coins.

This is my coin weight sheet. It is now above 2000 coins an amount for this wallet.

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture069.jpg

If you don't have coin weights in the 2000+ range don't expect to hit anything. That goes for any PoS setup. There is absolutely no reason if your wallet is setup correctly and left running connected to the net 24/7 that it should not hit PoS with 2000 coins. That is user error.

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture070.jpg

This kind of weight hits daily on average if difficulty for PoS stays under 30-40. We are over that so I expect every 3 days now.

[xxmetalmartyrxx]

Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout.  The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.  

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins?  Absolutely ridiculous.  

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate.  Fucking greed is all this is.  

I feel ya. If devs stopped staking, that would cut PoS difficulty by atleast 50%-60%, and you'd get your blocks. But sadly they seemed to have implemented PoS to pad their own pockets.

[cdawall]

I feel ya. If devs stopped staking, that would cut PoS difficulty by atleast 50%-60%, and you'd get your blocks. But sadly they seemed to have implemented PoS to pad their own pockets.

They could never sell what they have as of right now. The market wouldn't support it. They would have to heap effort into the coin to get it trading on multiple exchanges, and pumped in price before the market could handle selling 10000 SGL in a day let alone 10-100 times that. I don't really understand how you clowns think economics work, but supply and demand still works and until there is a demand they could stake 100% of all the SGL in existence and they wouldn't make a bloody dime.

That being said if people would stop second guessing every single step a dev takes and believe in the coin like they scream about on and on maybe that would allow them to possibly put some of the effort they were using to stop the fires you have started into actually developing the coin.

[nornbergkristi]

Okay, just lowered the fee from 10% to 3%

It is important that the team is on a compromise. It's always a pleasure to work with such people.

[sommersut]

No official statement concerning Devs staking most of coins?

[xxmetalmartyrxx]

I feel ya. If devs stopped staking, that would cut PoS difficulty by atleast 50%-60%, and you'd get your blocks. But sadly they seemed to have implemented PoS to pad their own pockets.

They could never sell what they have as of right now. The market wouldn't support it. They would have to heap effort into the coin to get it trading on multiple exchanges, and pumped in price before the market could handle selling 10000 SGL in a day let alone 10-100 times that. I don't really understand how you clowns think economics work, but supply and demand still works and until there is a demand they could stake 100% of all the SGL in existence and they wouldn't make a bloody dime.

That being said if people would stop second guessing every single step a dev takes and believe in the coin like they scream about on and on maybe that would allow them to possibly put some of the effort they were using to stop the fires you have started into actually developing the coin.

LOL so with your logic, a premine of any percent would be palatable for you? "Because they couldn't sell it all anyways", yeah, no shit sherlock. But big premines, and staking pre mines are RED FLAGS in projects. Devs make it seem like they have a reasonable premine (which they do) and then they go about quietly staking it which is shady af.
Listen to this blind shill "the fires you have started". Damn, all I'm doing is pointing out what the devs are doing because they aren't upfront about it. If they REALLY believed in SGL, 2million SGL would be more then enough to finance whatever they needed, because a decent project should at least hit a 50mil marketcap right? Which after year one, SGL would be worth approximately 4$, and their 2million SGL would equate 8milllion USD. Sure, they couldn't sell ALL of it, but holy shit how much do you need to pay for a shitty app developer? I sound like a broken record, but damn you guys don't get it. If 8 million dollars isn't enough, hell, if 1 million dollars isn't enough to fund this, then these devs really need to learn finance management.