[PROPOSAL] Let there be DMD Takeover!

[ahmed_bodi]

ill skype him, see if he replies

[gatra]

hi! would you please explain what do you mean by "managing a coin" or "providing support"? I really don't know what tasks are required or expected...
One would be updating checkpoints in the client. What else?
You don't need the devs for setting up a pool or asking an exchange to support the coin.
If there are no bugs that need fixing, what other support do you need that you can't do yourself (not you personally, I mean members of the community without the programming skills involved in updating the client and without access to the github account to make an "official" new client)?

I'm a software developer and I could add a checkpoint to a source code, but I'd really like to know what are you expecting from the devs.

cheers!
gatra

[ahmed_bodi]

new services, promotion, community support, new features built into clients. These things seperate one coin from the other

[gatra]

new services, promotion, community support, new features built into clients. These things seperate one coin from the other

but the developers are not needed for anything of that (except new features built into clients, and let's face it: most clients all feel the same without any new features except maybe messages embedded in the transactions).
you don't need a takeover to ask service providers to accept payments in DMD... service providers are not (at least most of them should not be if you want a healthy economy) the same people as the coin developers.

EDIT: I agree that you need them to be present and active for people to have any confidence on the coin, I was just wondering what tasks would they have to perform that cannot be performed by other people interested in the coin

[Pmalek]

So the coin needs a team! Excelent idea...

[ahmed_bodi]

haha yes, ive tried numerous times to get bytecoin onto places and every person has asked why should i add the coin? is there any dev support? is it secure and maintained?

[SardonicJester]

Diamond definitely needs an active dev team.

Johnluc has done a good job overall and created a nice alt coin, but for Diamond to move forward, it needs a team.

It needs the kind of support/promotion/features that iGotSpots puts into his coins.
He seems to actually care about the future of his coins. (Even though I do not mine either, I respect his dedication)

Maybe someone could convince iGotSpots to add diamonds to his exchange and use DMD as the payment method?
Buy gold/silver/copper/diamonds with SPT/CPR/DMD......sounds good to me.   

[ahmed_bodi]

i for one will never support any coin which igotspots supports, i dont trust him for my own reasons. yes he is dedicated but because he has a team behind it, if we built a team then im sure we can bring dmd far, here are the possible list of people who i might be able to get to join the team:

me,
lucasjones
zelles(with payment provided by me)
r3wt(with payment provided by me)

[asor]

..:: [ Sorry for bad english ] ::..

I'm supporting this coin because I like the idea of a rare coin, but I also sold all my coins because of the bad exchange rate... as I already mentioned in another thread, DMD should be worth 4 or 5 times more than BTC. But what's the exchange course? 0.00026000 on Coins-E (Cryptsy was down )... absolutely undervalued compared to their max coins (4,38 Mio.). I've to pay $0,38 per kW/h, thus it's not worth mining DMD with the current exchange course...
The first thing I thought was.... yes finally a real alternative to BTC and a coin not as inflationary as BTC because there are only 4,38 coins. I saw BTC as the "real" money and DMD the real Diamond. It's sad to see such a great coin with such a bad acceptance and exchange course...
Did I alredy mentioned that I like Diamonds? I'm a software developer, I'm using cryptographic functions in my applications and I already startet a (private) project called Astat [AST] (because it's "the rarest naturally occurring element" (Wiki) on earth). My specifications were as follows:

• Algorithm: Scrypt-Jane
• Coins total: 102 200 Coins total
• Coins per day: 10
• Coins per block: 0,25 (40 Blocks per day)
• Mining will last for 28 years (fair for PPL which start mining after some years)
• No bonus blocks
• Of course, no premine

That's the intention behind my own coin (really really rare - only 0,0048% compared to BTC). I would like to help to restart or recreate DMD, but my problem is that I've no expiriences maintaining a coin and that's also the problem of my own coin. The problem of the most alt-coins is, that there no real community or team behind the coin... the coins are posted here on bitcointalk, probably has a homepage, created in one or two days, mined for 3 or 4 weeks (until they are unprofitable) without no long term support or team which is responsible for the coin or tries to increase their acceptance. Additionally I never read anything about DMD, JPC, STR or the most other alt-coins on BTCe, Bitsamp, Vircurex or some other, large and popular exchanges. Newcomers know BTC and probably LTC, but nothing about other coins... how should they know that there're more, other (rarer) coins? As Pmalek already mentioned, DMD needs a team, a forum, avatars like other coins, blog entries AND... a service accepting DMD-payments. Finally... DMD needs more press articles and services/shops!

[SardonicJester]

i for one will never support any coin which igotspots supports, i dont trust him for my own reasons. yes he is dedicated but because he has a team behind it, if we built a team then im sure we can bring dmd far, here are the possible list of people who i might be able to get to join the team:

me,
lucasjones
zelles(with payment provided by me)
r3wt(with payment provided by me)

Who is he working with? I thought he was on his own.

Ummm.....r3wt??? Gascoin......... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263994.0
Haha. 

[Pmalek]

..:: [ Sorry for bad english ] ::..

I'm supporting this coin because I like the idea of a rare coin, but I also sold all my coins because of the bad exchange rate... as I already mentioned in another thread, DMD should be worth 4 or 5 times more than BTC. But what's the exchange course? 0.00026000 on Coins-E (Cryptsy was down )... absolutely undervalued compared to their max coins (4,38 Mio.). I've to pay $0,38 per kW/h, thus it's not worth mining DMD with the current exchange course...
The first thing I thought was.... yes finally a real alternative to BTC and a coin not as inflationary as BTC because there are only 4,38 coins. I saw BTC as the "real" money and DMD the real Diamond. It's sad to see such a great coin with such a bad acceptance and exchange course...
Did I alredy mentioned that I like Diamonds? I'm a software developer, I'm using cryptographic functions in my applications and I already startet a (private) project called Astat [AST] (because it's "the rarest naturally occurring element" (Wiki) on earth). My specifications were as follows:

• Algorithm: Scrypt-Jane
• Coins total: 102 200 Coins total
• Coins per day: 10
• Coins per block: 0,25 (40 Blocks per day)
• Mining will last for 28 years (fair for PPL which start mining after some years)
• No bonus blocks
• Of course, no premine

That's the intention behind my own coin (really really rare - only 0,0048% compared to BTC). I would like to help to restart or recreate DMD, but my problem is that I've no expiriences maintaining a coin and that's also the problem of my own coin. The problem of the most alt-coins is, that there no real community or team behind the coin... the coins are posted here on bitcointalk, probably has a homepage, created in one or two days, mined for 3 or 4 weeks (until they are unprofitable) without no long term support or team which is responsible for the coin or tries to increase their acceptance. Additionally I never read anything about DMD, JPC, STR or the most other alt-coins on BTCe, Bitsamp, Vircurex or some other, large and popular exchanges. Newcomers know BTC and probably LTC, but nothing about other coins... how should they know that there're more, other (rarer) coins? As Pmalek already mentioned, DMD needs a team, a forum, avatars like other coins, blog entries AND... a service accepting DMD-payments. Finally... DMD needs more press articles and services/shops!

I think you should be on the team! And I like you guys for not wanting to let this coin disappear.. I would help too, but as I said I am just a noob in programing and developing. But this is the right way we are going...

One question: How does coin takeover work?

[cryptohunter]

Yikes, the coins may vanish?? don't like the sound of that at all, is it essential to restart the blockchain??  can not another dev take over without this happening?

[Kruncha]

Yikes, the coins may vanish?? don't like the sound of that at all, is it essential to restart the blockchain??  can not another dev take over without this happening?

I can't see any benefit in restarting the block chain - just carry on with what there is.

K.

[ahmed_bodi]

i for one will never support any coin which igotspots supports, i dont trust him for my own reasons. yes he is dedicated but because he has a team behind it, if we built a team then im sure we can bring dmd far, here are the possible list of people who i might be able to get to join the team:

me,
lucasjones
zelles(with payment provided by me)
r3wt(with payment provided by me)

Who is he working with? I thought he was on his own.

Ummm.....r3wt??? Gascoin......... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263994.0
Haha. 

i know r3wt outside of bitcointalk, trust me, i can code well enough to know he couldnt pull a stunt like that off with me. igotspots has got a business and existing services to help his ccoin so he has a significant advantage compared to folks like us

[SardonicJester]

Takeover is the wrong word.

There is no reason to remove Johnluc. He is the creator and has done a good job so far.
He just needs others to join him.

No reason to restart the block chain. Just need a team set up that will collaborate together to support/promote/enhance the existing DMD.

[sheinsha]

Takeover is the wrong word.

There is no reason to remove Johnluc. He is the creator and has done a good job so far.
He just needs others to join him.

No reason to restart the block chain. Just need a team set up that will collaborate together to support/promote/enhance the existing DMD.

I agree with every word ^^

[Pmalek]

But the point is JohnLuc disappeared in thin air I dont have anything against him, he did a great job, but if he cant do it anymore let someone else does..

I would really like to hear his oppinion, someone maybe try contact him? He is logging in from time to time, but he doesnt post anything..

[JohnLuc]

I don't see where come up this takeover idea. I made the coin - the first pow/pos with random blocks, and I maintained it until it hits cryptsy, it's a great success.. I will continue maintain it if there are any issues - so far the only minor issue is the pos payout, which given small dmd payout, is a normal thing.

I did all the work without premine, and the results seem that people are just never satisfied. I am really a developer, not a promotor, so if you think the coin is not promo'd enough, please do it, it is a work of the community, not the developer.

Guys, this is a public source project, if you guys are not happy, make any changes yourself, as long as the community accept them. Don't do the stupid things like start another blockchain etc. Because if you know how to do it, then you better start another coin. And don't just talk, talk is too easy and cheap, only talking is not worth anything. Again the code is there, you are welcome to make any changes (and take over) there.

[ahmed_bodi]

great so JohnLuc has accepted, time to get to work guys!

Pool, Faucet, Web Wallet i can have up in around a day

[JohnLuc]

great so JohnLuc has accepted, time to get to work guys!

Pool, Faucet, Web Wallet i can have up in around a day

Not sure I understand Ahmed, what did I accept? The DMD is a public source project, I welcome anyone to take it over, to enhance it, as long as the community agree on it.