TRADOVE ICO BBCOIN is a SCAM

[Denak91]

Hello, I bought 2000 coins + 600 bonus coins on January 7. Until now no coins and no answer to my emails

Payment Status: Check

Order Status: Complete

Has anyone already got something?

[vasiliy_petrov]

Hello Kent.

Need some help here.

I purchased 2000 BBcoins, but now I have doubts about project.

The transaction ID is (Etherium): 0xfc997754f6768040e2a782912034db6f7a5292026d39b38cedc4613e9e648b4a so everyone could check it easily.

Would you be so kind and proof that I am wrong with my doubts by making refund.

Here is my ETH deposit address:   0x079ea909971486e244981bb58ca27948ca657044

If I receive refund I will update this post. Thanks in advance.
 

[blinkblink4488]

Hello Kent.

Need some help here.

I purchased 2000 BBcoins, but now I have doubts about project.

The transaction ID is (Etherium): 0xfc997754f6768040e2a782912034db6f7a5292026d39b38cedc4613e9e648b4a so everyone could check it easily.

Would you be so kind and proof that I am wrong with my doubts by making refund.

Here is my ETH deposit address:   0x079ea909971486e244981bb58ca27948ca657044

If I receive refund I will update this post. Thanks in advance.
 

Join their Telegram Group for help:-
TraDove Global B2B Token Offer

I received mine in 48 hours.

[CryptoRoad]

Denak

According the pinned info in their telegram group, the coins are released at the end of the ICO, so no-one will get the actual coins till then just the confirmation of purchase. Hope this helps.

[vasiliy_petrov]

Hello Kent.

Need some help here.

I purchased 2000 BBcoins, but now I have doubts about project.

The transaction ID is (Etherium): 0xfc997754f6768040e2a782912034db6f7a5292026d39b38cedc4613e9e648b4a so everyone could check it easily.

Would you be so kind and proof that I am wrong with my doubts by making refund.

Here is my ETH deposit address:   0x079ea909971486e244981bb58ca27948ca657044

If I receive refund I will update this post. Thanks in advance.
 

Join their Telegram Group for help:-
TraDove Global B2B Token Offer

I received mine in 48 hours.

So... no more refunds.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/awUwi


Make your own conclusions.

[da_vinci]

What do you have to say about this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVGtP2DRdw
Think about it - there is no way Mike Honda and Richard Rosenberg would have put their names to a scam.

Exactly - I wish I just trusted my initial instincts about this project (that I had found a hidden gem) instead of listening to this idiot.

But you know what they say, the fear of losing money is greater than the fear of making it...

I have no doubt in my mind that TraDove will succeed in their goal.

I haven't looked too deep into this project yet. What makes you think it will succeed?

Here you can find information about the CEO, Kent Yan, and about its relation with Tradove from 2010.

Good proyect in my opinion, I've invested.

;-)

[Denak91]

Denak

According the pinned info in their telegram group, the coins are released at the end of the ICO, so no-one will get the actual coins till then just the confirmation of purchase. Hope this helps.

Thanks!

[bfxcoin]

Be aware. Do your own research, everything is a scam, false promises, false information.

A lot of people is being scammed right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2288789.new


They claim to be a really huge company/network B2B and they are not at all. It's in the best case scenario a very tiny company, that earn some money with email spamming.

Their linkedins are fake, they faked profiles in crunchbase, xing and other network to look trusthworthy.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/2061291/ has 98 employees in Linkedin, most of them are ico related or sockpuppets fakes accounts, a lot of "project managers".

The same for his other scam company called Braincess, is registered in whitepages with the same President, phone number, and address:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/braincess-inc-/


DON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY with this ERC20 scam token

I fond this page when I be searching they phone number
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/tradove-inc
what you think about this page
I fund about 2200$ with they
I hop they don't be scam

[kentjyan]

Denak

According the pinned info in their telegram group, the coins are released at the end of the ICO, so no-one will get the actual coins till then just the confirmation of purchase. Hope this helps.

Thanks!

This is correct and it's standard practice for many ICOs.

-Kent

[kentjyan]

Hello Kent.

Need some help here.

I purchased 2000 BBcoins, but now I have doubts about project.

The transaction ID is (Etherium): 0xfc997754f6768040e2a782912034db6f7a5292026d39b38cedc4613e9e648b4a so everyone could check it easily.

Would you be so kind and proof that I am wrong with my doubts by making refund.

Here is my ETH deposit address:   0x079ea909971486e244981bb58ca27948ca657044

If I receive refund I will update this post. Thanks in advance.
 

Hi Vasiliy

I'm sorry to hear that your initial enthusiasm for our ICO faded. I'm proud of, and stand by our business, team and company track record. I expect that you had good reasons for choosing to purchase BBcoin and hope that you will be reminded of these in the coming months.

As a gesture of good faith and although there was no requirement to do so, we did offer refunds to a number of presale investors who were sadly scared off by FUD and scare-mongering. That refund offer was for a strictly limited period and ended on 14 January. Refunds have been, and are being made to investors who requested one within that period. If you made a request to us directly by some other means prior to 11:59 UTC on 14 January, it will be processed in due course.

Unfortunately, your request in this public forum is outside that time period and, in fairness, I'm not able to make individual case-by-case exceptions.

I hope you'll remember the original reasons you chose to purchase BBcoinover the coming months.

Best Regards,

-Kent

[kentjyan]

What do you have to say about this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVGtP2DRdw
Think about it - there is no way Mike Honda and Richard Rosenberg would have put their names to a scam.

Exactly - I wish I just trusted my initial instincts about this project (that I had found a hidden gem) instead of listening to this idiot.

But you know what they say, the fear of losing money is greater than the fear of making it...

I have no doubt in my mind that TraDove will succeed in their goal.

I haven't looked too deep into this project yet. What makes you think it will succeed?

Here you can find information about the CEO, Kent Yan, and about its relation with Tradove from 2010.

Good proyect in my opinion, I've invested.

;-)

Thanks for your support da_vinci!!  We will indeed succeed. Grateful to you for looking into things more carefully than some who are just attacking our work with very little evidence.

All the best,

-Kent

[kentjyan]

Be aware. Do your own research, everything is a scam, false promises, false information.

A lot of people is being scammed right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2288789.new


They claim to be a really huge company/network B2B and they are not at all. It's in the best case scenario a very tiny company, that earn some money with email spamming.

Their linkedins are fake, they faked profiles in crunchbase, xing and other network to look trusthworthy.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/2061291/ has 98 employees in Linkedin, most of them are ico related or sockpuppets fakes accounts, a lot of "project managers".

The same for his other scam company called Braincess, is registered in whitepages with the same President, phone number, and address:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/braincess-inc-/


DON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY with this ERC20 scam token

I fond this page when I be searching they phone number
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/tradove-inc
what you think about this page
I fund about 2200$ with they
I hop they don't be scam

Thanks for your investment, bfxcoin. We're certainly not a scam!!  Please check our our whitepaper, team and advisors on our website: https://bbcoin.tradove.com/   I welcome any scrutiny of our team, their LinkedIn profiles and histories. I'm proud of the expertise we've assembled at Tradove and of the high-profile investors and advisors who have chosen to endorse us.

If I can answer any specific questions to set your mind at rest, please ask away.

Best Regards

-Kent

[da_vinci]

What do you have to say about this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVGtP2DRdw
Think about it - there is no way Mike Honda and Richard Rosenberg would have put their names to a scam.

Exactly - I wish I just trusted my initial instincts about this project (that I had found a hidden gem) instead of listening to this idiot.

But you know what they say, the fear of losing money is greater than the fear of making it...

I have no doubt in my mind that TraDove will succeed in their goal.

I haven't looked too deep into this project yet. What makes you think it will succeed?

Here you can find information about the CEO, Kent Yan, and about its relation with Tradove from 2010.

Good proyect in my opinion, I've invested.

;-)

Here
https://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Palo-Alto/kent-j-yan/43252748.aspx

[kentjyan]

TraDove ico is currently open and so far they've collected over 6,000 ETH.

However, they're funnelling the funds via thousands of tiny wallets into Binance.



The ETH contribution address is:
0x90b12787fa2067ccb46f017f70c07529a562c6c9

If you do some digging through transactions you'll spot a pattern. Eth is being sent to staging wallets. Once a wallet reaches 100ETH, it is being split into 3 different wallets. Two of the three are large, about 98ETH total, and the third is the small remainder. In the new wallets for the two large amounts, the process repeats until it reaches 100 ETH, and again it splits.

What's interesting is where the small amounts are going. If you follow them, they bundle into wallets that reach about 4 ETH, then it goes to Binance.

Here's an example chain of transactions:
>From https://etherscan.io/address/0x90b12787fa2067ccb46f017f70c07529a562c6c9
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0x831ac669d2b567e0a31fb25f9e84ddecec01a302affb41959e9dd38abaa0cf42
>To https://etherscan.io/address/0xd27e3ee37894bbd9bee348a4c4839e5876a53b29
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8d5ed47414468e75039bc257c9256f4300e96377869b88cf6ee44211926b0daa
>To https://etherscan.io/address/0x79f7dbbfce4fd0749c7685a9f7808555828de127
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb012d82d68974c79153ea89d8386060dbf46324e5a0a8c09130bf6cb56c78c2d
>To https://etherscan.io/address/0xb7f274b8c1731187204e0b6d79fa5dbdb8ec44d0
>And then Finally to Binance:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x22729aca88b59d2183426700524f5e0010ebda581f8468cf3d82a0e061982ade

SCAM

Hi Entertainer,

Not sure of your motives to damage my business with FUD or if you genuinely have concerns. I've attempted to engage with you to provide evidence to refute your unsupported allegations without sucesss.

I think another contributor (modano182) refuted your concerns in this thread well and I quote them here:

Hi everyone,

Just so everyone does not think this is a scam - here is my 4 ETH refunded back to me by TraDove.

https://imgur.com/a/IQUQu

I have reinvested this back into TraDove now as they have given me the confidence this is not a scam...

I came to this conclusion by thinking what are the green flags and what are the red flags?

The only red flag to most people is the fact that there was one 4chan member stating this was a scam due to the fact the ICO funds were immediately being moved to hundreds of different wallets.

The reason is fairly simple - the ICO funds (as confirmed when emailing Kent) have been moved onto CoinBase after they hit the TraDove accounts. Doing this is much more secure than storing the funds of an ICO in a single wallet. CoinBase spreads large amounts of funds into multiple wallets - however this is done in the backend of CoinBase - it is a blockchain security feature to spread risk, so if one wallet is compromised, the loss is minimal. Remember when Bittrex was hacked? This is because Bittrex did not do this - they had far too many funds stored in a single wallet point containing millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin. So, this is why you are seeing funds moved from the TraDove ICO wallets into CoinBase and then CoinBase moving them in the backend into Binance wallets.

The only other red flag I can see raised by people is the poor grammatical skills on parts of the ICO website - please remember that the CEO of TraDove is Chinese and sometimes there may be slight spelling errors due to English being a second language - hardly a red flag in my view but I can see how others may interpret that.

Now if anyone has any other issues they would like to bring up I am more than happy to try and get answers for you or even answer them myself.

Finally, I am not in any way affiliated with TraDove, but I went through the entire range of emotions by investing, asking for a refund when I panicked and now am 100% back on board.

End of quote (see thread original post above).

The movements of funds as illustrated above is a prudent security feature. There is nothing unusual or improper about it.

And thank you to Modano182 for sharing their experience of receiving a refund, re-establishing trust in our ICO and re-investing. I am grateful to you and all contributors who do their own research and take the time to contact me or my team to ask questions.

Best Regards

-Kent

[potpockets]

Only by the ICO's announcement to see problems, do not be deceived by things like linkedin and number of companies this can all be created and falsified easily to give the illusion that is something serious.

[bfxcoin]

Be aware. Do your own research, everything is a scam, false promises, false information.

A lot of people is being scammed right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2288789.new


They claim to be a really huge company/network B2B and they are not at all. It's in the best case scenario a very tiny company, that earn some money with email spamming.

Their linkedins are fake, they faked profiles in crunchbase, xing and other network to look trusthworthy.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/2061291/ has 98 employees in Linkedin, most of them are ico related or sockpuppets fakes accounts, a lot of "project managers".

The same for his other scam company called Braincess, is registered in whitepages with the same President, phone number, and address:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/braincess-inc-/


DON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY with this ERC20 scam token

I fond this page when I be searching they phone number
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/tradove-inc
what you think about this page
I fund about 2200$ with they
I hop they don't be scam

Thanks for your investment, bfxcoin. We're certainly not a scam!!  Please check our our whitepaper, team and advisors on our website: https://bbcoin.tradove.com/   I welcome any scrutiny of our team, their LinkedIn profiles and histories. I'm proud of the expertise we've assembled at Tradove and of the high-profile investors and advisors who have chosen to endorse us.

If I can answer any specific questions to set your mind at rest, please ask away.

Best Regards

-Kent

I sent more than 5 mail yesterday  to your mail (customer.service@tradove.com & bbcoin@tradovemail.com ) but I don't get any answer from you .
I want to believe you , but when I searched in google your team members images it can find only you website images for example "kentjyan" , and it seen there is no such person in fact , if your team member are famous and well-known in search about they we have find more about they , and if TraDove is old company in search we have find realistic and physical images of companies like office and building photos ,
you definitely have photos from team meetings , please show us some of them.
Please give us peace of mind with more information reasons.

[potpockets]

dozens of newbie accounts stating that they bought and received the coins did not pass any kind of trust on that ICO.
Any hero or legendary rank who bought this?

[kentjyan]

Be aware. Do your own research, everything is a scam, false promises, false information.

A lot of people is being scammed right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2288789.new


They claim to be a really huge company/network B2B and they are not at all. It's in the best case scenario a very tiny company, that earn some money with email spamming.

Their linkedins are fake, they faked profiles in crunchbase, xing and other network to look trusthworthy.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/2061291/ has 98 employees in Linkedin, most of them are ico related or sockpuppets fakes accounts, a lot of "project managers".

The same for his other scam company called Braincess, is registered in whitepages with the same President, phone number, and address:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/braincess-inc-/


DON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY with this ERC20 scam token

Very interesting. Can you tell us how old those LinkedIn accounts are?
Is Braincess still in operation?
Do your research deeper and then come back.

[cabron]

So why did they postponed their bounty campaign and yet not updating the participants about what is going on?
The participants keep posting on their bounty thread while them laughing as they need not to do anything for their promotion because someone else are doing it for them for free. This itself is a scam in flesh, this team is really suspicious about their act.

[kentjyan]

If you dare and do not want to stop, email bbcoin@tradovemail.com your mail address, phone number. Our lawyer will contact you and we will charge you for all the lost investment for your irresponsible and untrue charges. And I am serious.