Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets

[SirWizz]

Beautiful woman, but this have nothing to do with the present discussion.

You see, you show that you cannot cope with serious discussions. You fail to keep on track. At every opportunity you derail the topic where you participate.

This remind me of the old forum participant, Rarity, which got banned months ago.

Like you, Rarity could not stop to twist the discussions which she participated, no matter what reasonable argument was put against her. It became unbearable at certain point, that she had to be banned to a certain order be restored in the forum.

You are coming near at that point, I am really sure.

It happened before with Rarity and others alike, it will happen with you, soon or later.

Pardon me, but how can you NOT derail such a thread?  We are (generally speaking) simply overwhelmed by the quality of the arguments presented here, supporting the topic at hand...

[Bitcoinorama]

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Beautiful woman, but this have nothing to do with the present discussion.

You see, you show that you cannot cope with serious discussions. You fail to keep on track. At every opportunity you derail the topic where you participate.

This remind me of the old forum participant, Rarity, which got banned months ago.

Like you, Rarity could not stop to twist the discussions which she participated, no matter what reasonable argument was put against her. It became unbearable at certain point, that she had to be banned to a certain order be restored in the forum.

You are coming near at that point, I am really sure.

It happened before with Rarity and others alike, it will happen with you, soon or later.

Auggusto if you gave a shit about the thread, and other people at all; instead of running in and rambling on about something none of us know anything about, read the comment before yours, Loredo's, the thing you ignored; has everything to do with a hot blonde in a lil' black dress, and was quite witty. Moreso since we now know MinorMinor hates images in threads, which is amusing as he started a thread having a dig at me.

Seeing as everyone here harps on about Merriam Webster being the gospel of linguistics, here's her definition of a Shill;

shill  /ˈʃɪl/ verb
shills; shilled; shill·ing
[no obj] US, informal + disapproving : to talk about or describe someone or something in a favorable way because you are being paid to do it — often + for ▪ celebrities shilling for politicians
— shill noun, plural shills [count]
▪ He's just a political shill.

http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/shill


Which I'm not.

[CoinHoarder]

Bitcoinorama,

I'm not trying to harp on you anymore. I actually feel kind of bad for you for all the flack you are getting, I didn't mean for it to be this big of a deal. However, I didn't make this thread either...

But, Merriam-Webster's actual website has different definitions than the one you posted. Perhaps the secondary site you linked to is outdated or just from a different dictionary? I dunno. Anyways, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shill

Again, you can use the word however you'd like as long as it's in a dictionary somewhere. I agree that the definition you posted would also be another use of the word shill.

[McGyver]

There is no right or wrong way to use the word shill (or any other word for that matter) as long as it's in the dictionary.  

No, it's actually the other way round...

FIRST a word appears in live language (usually it starts in some specific environment: region, age/social group, subculture, etc.) and THEN this new word (or its new meaning) is recognised and acknowledged by dictionaries (after discussion among experts, where some of them would typically discourage the new word or its new use). But the key point there is that language is LIVE, rather than dictated upon us by dictionaries! And if the word becomes massively used, even its strongest opponents eventually have to accept and acknowledge it. The same goes with Bitcoin!

[Minor Miner]

I am tired of the shill debate.    Shills usually are NOT hot babes anymore.   That ended in the 60s.   They are still used in vegas casinos and there is STILL a law where you can ask (and the dealer MUST tell you) if there are any casino employees at the table.   It is still a Nevada Gaming commission law.   Ever wonder how you get a whale into playing high stakes BJ etc when all the tables are empty?   You don't.
Perhaps, I should change my post title to "Why right after the owners of KnC disappear from posting, does Bitcoinorama appear?"   Or "Why does VBS appear and then Ken Slaughter stops posting at a prolific rate"?
Or "Why does evorhees all of a sudden start posting defending the merits of a security when he could not even bother to post anything about satoshi dice while he had shareholders?"

[CoinHoarder]

There is no right or wrong way to use the word shill (or any other word for that matter) as long as it's in the dictionary.  

No, it's actually the other way round...

FIRST a word appears in live language (usually it starts in some specific environment: region, age group, subculture, etc.) and THEN this new word (or its new meaning) is racognised and acknowledged by dictionaries (after discussion among experts, where some of them would typically discourage the new word or its new use). But the key point there is that language is LIVE rather than dictated upon us by dictionaries! And if the word becomes massively used even its strongest oppnents must eventually accept and acknowledge it. The same goes with Bitcoin!

I agree with you, but perhaps I worded my sentence wrong. I think this is better: According to English teachers, there is no right or wrong way to use the word shill (or any other word for that matter) as long as it's in the dictionary.

If you think you can turn in a paper for English class filled with slang and improper usage of words (usage that is not in a dictionary somewhere), then you might be receiving a F.  

Although there are a lot of slang words which many people use every day, it is still considered improper English to use these words- at least in academia.

And yes, I am growing tired of the shill debate as well. Let's just let this thread die peacefully. 

[Bitcoinorama]

I am tired of the shill debate.    Shills usually are NOT hot babes anymore.   That ended in the 60s.   They are still used in vegas casinos and there is STILL a law where you can ask (and the dealer MUST tell you) if there are any casino employees at the table.   It is still a Nevada Gaming commission law.   Ever wonder how you get a whale into playing high stakes BJ etc when all the tables are empty?   You don't.
Perhaps, I should change my post title to "Why right after the owners of KnC disappear from posting, does Bitcoinorama appear?"   Or "Why does VBS appear and then Ken Slaughter stops posting at a prolific rate"?
Or "Why does evorhees all of a sudden start posting defending the merits of a security when he could not even bother to post anything about satoshi dice while he had shareholders?"

You really do look for conspiarcy wayy too deep dude. My posting has zero of anything to do with whenever KnC post. I'm 1,200 miles, and an hour behind them...

[Minor Miner]

I am tired of the shill debate.    Shills usually are NOT hot babes anymore.   That ended in the 60s.   They are still used in vegas casinos and there is STILL a law where you can ask (and the dealer MUST tell you) if there are any casino employees at the table.   It is still a Nevada Gaming commission law.   Ever wonder how you get a whale into playing high stakes BJ etc when all the tables are empty?   You don't.
Perhaps, I should change my post title to "Why right after the owners of KnC disappear from posting, does Bitcoinorama appear?"   Or "Why does VBS appear and then Ken Slaughter stops posting at a prolific rate"?
Or "Why does evorhees all of a sudden start posting defending the merits of a security when he could not even bother to post anything about satoshi dice while he had shareholders?"

You really do look for conspiarcy wayy too deep dude. My posting has zero of anything to do with whenever KnC post. I'm 1,200 miles, and an hour behind them...

I think I have made the point I wanted to and I hope you have heard it.   Just stop posting HUGELY long posts all over the place so that old guys like me can read the threads easier.   That is all I ask.   And when you reply for the 5th time to a post of your own that has an entire WSJ article in it, please delete all the crap so we can just read the one liner that is being added.
Thanks.    And for god's sake and your personal sanity, go ride your bike.   You are spending 6 hours a day on average on this forum, seven days a week.   The only other people as dedicated as you to this forum work for the NSA, IRS and SEC and are being paid to be here 8 hours a day.

[Bitcoinorama]

I am tired of the shill debate.    Shills usually are NOT hot babes anymore.   That ended in the 60s.   They are still used in vegas casinos and there is STILL a law where you can ask (and the dealer MUST tell you) if there are any casino employees at the table.   It is still a Nevada Gaming commission law.   Ever wonder how you get a whale into playing high stakes BJ etc when all the tables are empty?   You don't.
Perhaps, I should change my post title to "Why right after the owners of KnC disappear from posting, does Bitcoinorama appear?"   Or "Why does VBS appear and then Ken Slaughter stops posting at a prolific rate"?
Or "Why does evorhees all of a sudden start posting defending the merits of a security when he could not even bother to post anything about satoshi dice while he had shareholders?"

You really do look for conspiarcy wayy too deep dude. My posting has zero of anything to do with whenever KnC post. I'm 1,200 miles, and an hour behind them...

I think I have made the point I wanted to and I hope you have heard it.   Just stop posting HUGELY long posts all over the place so that old guys like me can read the threads easier.   That is all I ask.   And when you reply for the 5th time to a post of your own that has an entire WSJ article in it, please delete all the crap so we can just read the one liner that is being added.
Thanks.    And for god's sake and your personal sanity, go ride your bike.   You are spending 6 hours a day on average on this forum, seven days a week.   The only other people as dedicated as you to this forum work for the NSA, IRS and SEC and are being paid to be here 8 hours a day.

I can't currently patella tendinitis massively in both knees currently. It's driving me insane. But I'm certainly going to turn off the btctalk email alert thing. Gn.

[Anenome5]

Oh please, I sincerely doubt it. Like KNC needs a shill anyway.

[MrHempstock]

Now "Shill" is tied for "FUD" as the most misused word on these boards.

perfect example of useless pollution on boards with stupid pictures.  Grow up.   

This thread is a "perfect example of useless pollution on boards"

What a moron.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I am tired of the shill debate.    Shills usually are NOT hot babes anymore.   That ended in the 60s.   They are still used in vegas casinos and there is STILL a law where you can ask (and the dealer MUST tell you) if there are any casino employees at the table.   It is still a Nevada Gaming commission law.   Ever wonder how you get a whale into playing high stakes BJ etc when all the tables are empty?   You don't.
Perhaps, I should change my post title to "Why right after the owners of KnC disappear from posting, does Bitcoinorama appear?"   Or "Why does VBS appear and then Ken Slaughter stops posting at a prolific rate"?
Or "Why does evorhees all of a sudden start posting defending the merits of a security when he could not even bother to post anything about satoshi dice while he had shareholders?"

You really do look for conspiarcy wayy too deep dude. My posting has zero of anything to do with whenever KnC post. I'm 1,200 miles, and an hour behind them...

I think I have made the point I wanted to and I hope you have heard it.   Just stop posting HUGELY long posts all over the place so that old guys like me can read the threads easier.   That is all I ask.   And when you reply for the 5th time to a post of your own that has an entire WSJ article in it, please delete all the crap so we can just read the one liner that is being added.
Thanks.    And for god's sake and your personal sanity, go ride your bike.   You are spending 6 hours a day on average on this forum, seven days a week.   The only other people as dedicated as you to this forum work for the NSA, IRS and SEC and are being paid to be here 8 hours a day.

I can't currently patella tendinitis massively in both knees currently. It's driving me insane. But I'm certainly going to turn off the btctalk email alert thing. Gn.

Let me get this straight: You and Sam Cole both ride a bike, thus...  

[DPoS]

You only have to hit F5 key on the Custom Hardware page to know that there is an abundance of posts in the sub-forum, and not really any new information, mostly people speculating and/or complaining about various things that are changing slowly, until...... some genuinely novel/useful piece of information comes along, then the churn goes into overdrive as the real miners and the shills re-aling themselves around the latest changing of the landscape. It's the biggest cess-pool on the whole of bitcointalk, at that's really saying something. The desperation and poor behaviour, from shills and miners alike, stinks like a corpse. I am all too guilty of this.

+1

The biggest issue with Bitcoinarama is that he is insanely OCD to the point he replies to every line and thought in someone's rant..  that explains the 650 freaking hours spent since april

someone please slip him a roofie

[oaxaca]

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Seeing as everyone here harps on about Merriam Webster being the gospel of linguistics, here's her definition of a Shill;

"her" definition?  Does she wear a black dress as well?

Merriam refers to George and Charles Merriam, who took over the dictionary after Noah Webster's death.

< / thread takes left turn >

[Bitcoinorama]

< thread takes left turn >

Seeing as everyone here harps on about Merriam Webster being the gospel of linguistics, here's her definition of a Shill;

"her" definition?  Does she wear a black dress as well?

Merriam refers to George and Charles Merriam, who took over the dictionary after Noah Webster's death.

< / thread takes left turn >

Well I never knew. Assumption being the mother of all fu.. ups.

[Meizirkki]

Bitcoinorama was the first person ever to get in my ignore-list. Tho I took him off it almost immediately.

He seems to be a nice guy, really. Except for being a broken record about his visit to KnC (which i'm surpised nobody has taken against him yet) and derailing discussion about him with hot women.

[Bitcoinorama]

Bitcoinorama was the first person ever to get in my ignore-list. Tho I took him off it almost immediately.

He seems to be a nice guy, really. Except for being a broken record about his visit to KnC (which i'm surpised nobody has taken against him yet) and derailing discussion about him with hot women.

With all due respect. I wasn't derailing the discussion, I was adding to it. If people took the time to read other member's posts as I had, and not jump to conclusions, they would appreciate your criticism about derailing the discussion about me as a moot point.

Read Loredo's post just prior, and give me some credit for an attempt at humour in relation to Auggusto's...

[Meizirkki]

Bitcoinorama was the first person ever to get in my ignore-list. Tho I took him off it almost immediately.

He seems to be a nice guy, really. Except for being a broken record about his visit to KnC (which i'm surpised nobody has taken against him yet) and derailing discussion about him with hot women.

With all due respect. I wasn't derailing the discussion, I was adding to it. If people took the time to read other member's posts as I had, and not jump to conclusions, they would appreciate your criticism about derailing the discussion about me as a moot point.

Read Loredo's post just prior, and give me some credit for an attempt at humour in relation to Auggusto's...

yeah. Tbh the reason I had you on ignore for a while was not because there was something wrong with you, but because I wanted to protect myself from posting a useless insult in response. (Such as my earlier post..) It was totally uncalled for, sorry.

Peace.

[NoDisco]

Beautiful woman, but this have nothing to do with the present discussion.

You see, you show that you cannot cope with serious discussions. You fail to keep on track. At every opportunity you derail the topic where you participate.

I can totally confirm this. He twists everything and provides grand assurances for things he knows nothing about. Then backtracks. Then makes them again. And again. Then backtracks. Then makes them again.

He shapes the way people think about things and entirely regulates the kncminer thread. You post something on there and soon he'll pop up and start whitewashing it away if it doesn't "sync" with the knc party line. "No, everything is fine. Everything is above board. Your purchase is completely safe. But you should check that. But your purchase is completely safe." etc ad infinitum.

He spoils any genuine discussion, derailing anything worth talking about. Then he'll throw in a picture or a video, just to have the last "word".

If there is nothing going on in the knc thread, he'll go and troll the competition's threads. It's all politics to him.

You are coming near at that point, I am really sure.

It happened before with Rarity and others alike, it will happen with you, soon or later.

If knc have promised him something for his efforts, maybe when it ships he'll reduce his participation in the forum. Can't come soon enough.

[k9quaint]

The only people on this subforum with first hand information about KNC are Bitcoinorama (who has actually been to their offices IIRC) and the employees of KNC.
KNC is not due to have their ASIC chip yet according to their own schedule.
Last I know, they never had a date more specific than "September 2013" to ship their devices.
I am waiting until KNC fails to deliver on a promise before I am critical of their business.
I believe their performance targets are optimistic, but possible.