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August 15, 2013, 02:29:55 PM |
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Is this evidenced somewhere?
There is a full list here. I guess he cannot update it anymore. I see Anduck was in the list... So, Anduck, how did it end for you? He paid me (not the sum I bet but a little part of it, something still!). I agreed this as a settlement for his debt to me.
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Loozik
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August 15, 2013, 02:31:08 PM |
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There is a full list here. Thanks. 1. I think Theymos did right by banning Matthew from posting (I enjoyed MNW's posts but had no idea about the bet case), yet at the same time allowing him to send and receive PMs. 2. Ability to receive PMs and replying to them is essential for Matthew to communicate with his creditors (people he has financial liabilities towards) and essential for his creditors to reach him. 3. As soon as Matthew reaches settlements with all the creditors and pays them, the ban may be lifted.
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Ente
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August 15, 2013, 02:32:52 PM |
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Theymos, I don't think you did yourself a favor here. I am disappointed. And now, for the first time, considering moving on elsewhere.
Ente
Is there another place with active community? Theymos should listen to the community. Community has donated a lot bitcoins to this forum, though I don't know are those coins used to pay salary to theymos or something. The second-biggest community would be http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/Then there is planning and organizing going on for a new forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244678About the coins: Mods are paid here now. Both from ad-revenues and donations, as I read. Ente
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Anduck
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August 15, 2013, 02:33:39 PM |
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There is a full list here. Thanks. 1. I think Theymos did right by banning Matthew from posting (I enjoyed MNW's posts but had no idea about the bet case), yet at the same time allowing him to send and receive PMs. 2. Ability to receive PMs and replying to them is essential for Matthew to communicate with his creditors (people he has financial liabilities towards) and essential for his creditors to reach him. 3. As soon as Matthew reaches settlements with all the creditors and pays them, the ban may be lifted. He didn't get banned for that bet, he got banned for his "troll messages"/trolling. I see people who have scammed being here in the forums as Hero members without any tags, just carrying a little neg rating from theymos. For example bulanula who scammed over 22 bitcoins, had scammer tag for a while..
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Akka
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August 15, 2013, 02:37:13 PM |
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There is a full list here. Thanks. 1. I think Theymos did right by banning Matthew from posting (I enjoyed MNW's posts but had no idea about the bet case), yet at the same time allowing him to send and receive PMs. 2. Ability to receive PMs and replying to them is essential for Matthew to communicate with his creditors (people he has financial liabilities towards) and essential for his creditors to reach him. 3. As soon as Matthew reaches settlements with all the creditors and pays them, the ban may be lifted. I don't think this has anything to do with the current ban. He got a scammer tag for this, which he got removed after reaching a Settlement with all people involved (I won't use creditors as Matthew refused to take any money in advance from any participant). The ones outstanding are people that have left this forum for good, giving him no way to resolve this. After that he got the untrustworthy tag. This story is over now. Banning him nearly 1 Year later would just be ridiculous.
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Loozik
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August 15, 2013, 02:38:25 PM |
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He didn't get banned for that bet, he got banned for his "troll messages"/trolling.
I see people who have scammed being here in the forums as Hero members without any tags, just carrying a little neg rating from theymos. For example bulanula who scammed over 22 bitcoins, had scammer tag for a while..
1. I am a silly newbie then Still learning the rules of the house. 2. Are there any examples of ''troll messages''?
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ElectricMucus
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August 15, 2013, 02:50:07 PM |
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2. Are there any examples of ''troll messages''?
Anything which isn't in line with the bitcoin gospel is considered trolling. Gladly that isn't theymos's definition or I would not longer be here.
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qwk
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August 15, 2013, 03:57:10 PM |
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There have been several VIPs and Donators who were banned (eg. Goat) or scammer-tagged (eg. pirateat40, cablepair).
VIP / Donator Fun Facts: 38 VIPs, 4 SCAMMERs -> 10.5% SCAM108 Donators, 4 SCAMMERs, 1 Untrustworthy -> 3.7% SCAM, 0.925% Untrustworthy If in doubt, trust a Donator! List of VIP Donators (50 BTC)
smart1985 -> Mybitcointrade.com Canaca casascius mndrix Als Pawnshop btcx Brian DeLoach zhoutong Metabank.ru BTC_Bear pirateat40 - SCAMMER znort987 jorgen Graet gigavps cryptoxchange - SCAMMER BitAvenue -> R- - SCAMMER Goat -> Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย Btc4Domains mrbrown 01BTC10 imsaguy cablepair -> SCAMMER BitcoinBaltar usagi BCB eb3full MemoryDealers augustocroppo buzzdave Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid -> dustintrammell XMLGold bitconexfoier johnascii Hexadecibel mLiberty lixiaolai TradeFortress
38 VIPs, 4 SCAMMERs -> 10.5% SCAM
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Narydu Blitzboom -> Blitz qwk shakaru - SCAMMER Lord Fog -> Lord F(r)og FNIB -> Hous1955 Transisto Gyom molecular ribuck edd eldentyrell chunglam DeepBit PMX-67-de DeathAndTaxes copumpkin Matthew N. Wright - Untrustworthy Jonathan Ryan Owens cbeast reeses coretechs mcorlett bo2573 PatrickHarnett - SCAMMER Meni Rosenfeld Boss -> Jon BadBitcoin -> BadBitcoin (James Sutton) Seal organofcorti lonelyminer -> lonelyminer (Peter Šurda) jarsumarsu bitsforcoins aurumxchange CAcoins gnar1ta$ bccasino BitcoinExchange BrightAnarchist AndyG Kluge lightlord OgNasty wogaut TheBitLLC deego coblee tgmarks zefir Raize PsychoticBoy - Staff AniceInovation packet7 tseale Blaztoize ciuciu minimalB bitfoo iSellBitcoins cytokine Jake Fordy -> fanquake nave datafish coinrolls2 vescudero miaviator ShadowAlexey DeaDTerra vasgolova friedcat Otoh ianspain Soros Shorts bg002h ElitePork RustyRyan - SCAMMER deeplink ---- ? Mendacium ? zebedee physicist gllen Jutarul ShadesOfMarble muyuu Kris c_k lukasbradley Alwaysmining - SCAMMER Arto ztex BlackLilac torac glassuser buybitcoinbycreditcard betbybitcoin Arcurus HorseRider primeasic mah87 bitsalame rpietila aristodemus zeroday pierrejo CanaryInTheMine ajk ASICME.COM Hailong
108 Donators, 4 SCAMMERs, 1 Untrustworthy -> 3.7% SCAM, 0.925% Untrustworthy
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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August 15, 2013, 04:01:28 PM |
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Just the numbers would suggest that MemoryDealers is more likely to be a scammer than.. packet7
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ElectricMucus
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August 15, 2013, 04:15:37 PM |
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Just the numbers would suggest that MemoryDealers is more likely to be a scammer than.. packet7 Major Bitcoin Preachers don't have the best track records either, Bruce Wagner ring a bell? Works for me!
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Raoul Duke
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August 15, 2013, 04:20:43 PM |
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About the coins: Mods are paid here now. Both from ad-revenues and donations, as I read.
AFAIK only funds from advertising(~25%) are used to pay Moderators and Administrators. No donation funds are used for those payments.
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qwk
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August 15, 2013, 04:35:31 PM |
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He was trolling continuously. He hasn't changed: He edited that poll after people had already voted to create misleading results.
Well, the forum policy since a long time ago was to ban trolls (as they impede the speech of others), and tag scammers.
As far as I can tell, banning MNW seems to be a consistent case of enforcing the forum rules. Period. But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around. I guess the right thing to do here would be to lift the ban as soon as the moderators find that appropriate. Oh, sorry I misunderstood, I see now how trolling could be so much worse than someone stealing hundreds even thousands of dollars worth of items, money, and bitcoin. The thing about scammers, they don't pay back shit.
Matthew held the SCAMMER tag for a while. He paid back, no shit!
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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John (John K.)
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August 15, 2013, 04:49:30 PM |
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He was trolling continuously. He hasn't changed: He edited that poll after people had already voted to create misleading results.
Well, the forum policy since a long time ago was to ban trolls (as they impede the speech of others), and tag scammers.
As far as I can tell, banning MNW seems to be a consistent case of enforcing the forum rules. Period. But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around. I guess the right thing to do here would be to lift the ban as soon as the moderators find that appropriate. Oh, sorry I misunderstood, I see now how trolling could be so much worse than someone stealing hundreds even thousands of dollars worth of items, money, and bitcoin. The thing about scammers, they don't pay back shit.
Matthew held the SCAMMER tag for a while. He paid back, no shit! PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.
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Kouye (OP)
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August 15, 2013, 04:59:06 PM |
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PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.
Which is perfectly understandable. You were not the one banning him for voicing out his opinion about this Garr255 scam thing trolling... I wish you were in charge here, actually. Ooops, did I just troll? Seriously, theymos, I understand you might have felt uneasy about some of his posts, but this really looks like an abuse of power. You need to let people express what they think, including conspiracy theories about you, too. That's one of the burdens that comes with your position. If people were not globally trusting you, this forum wouldn't be the shade of what it is, you're safe and don't have to fear those random rants! Please relax and reconsider!
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[OVER] RIDDLES 2nd edition --- this was claimed. Look out for 3rd edition! I won't ever ask for a loan nor offer any escrow service. If I do, please consider my account as hacked.
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John (John K.)
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August 15, 2013, 05:10:28 PM |
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PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.
Which is perfectly understandable. You were not the one banning him for voicing out his opinion about this Garr255 scam thing trolling... I wish you were in charge here, actually. Ooops, did I just troll? Seriously, theymos, I understand you might have felt uneasy about some of his posts, but this really looks like an abuse of power. You need to let people express what they think, including conspiracy theories about you, too. That's one of the burdens that comes with your position. If people were not globally trusting you, this forum wouldn't be the shade of what it is, you're safe and don't have to fear those random rants! Please relax and reconsider! Well, to be honest here I don't think theymos can please everyone. I remember that we got a lot of requests for Matthew to be banned after the Pirate event too. I guess if we went for the all-ban policy for scammers Matthew wouldn't be around to amend his bet by repaying partially here...
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Kouye (OP)
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August 15, 2013, 05:54:59 PM |
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Well, to be honest here I don't think theymos can please everyone. I remember that we got a lot of requests for Matthew to be banned after the Pirate event too. I guess if we went for the all-ban policy for scammers Matthew wouldn't be around to amend his bet by repaying partially here... Agreed, but this was a year ago, and is completely irrelevant, here. He was banned for trolling. Not because he screwed up earlier - which everyone, including him, agrees upon. Not because people asked theymos to ban him in mp (hopefully). Just because of... trolling.
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[OVER] RIDDLES 2nd edition --- this was claimed. Look out for 3rd edition! I won't ever ask for a loan nor offer any escrow service. If I do, please consider my account as hacked.
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Loozik
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August 15, 2013, 06:21:12 PM |
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He was banned for trolling. 1. Can someone post the definition of trolling? 2. Can someone show examples of the trolling by MNW (links, pictures, etc)?
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August 15, 2013, 06:23:45 PM |
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Wasn't there something about zhoutong as well? He hasn't got a scammer tag but I read lots of people lost money with him.
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hackjealousy
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August 15, 2013, 06:31:19 PM |
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But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around.
There is nothing stopping him from creating another account. He can, and most certainly will, continue to be around. And if he wants, he can troll with his new account. The point of the ban, as far as I can figure, is that trolling from a new account is far less effective.
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Kouye (OP)
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August 15, 2013, 06:33:41 PM |
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1. Can someone post the definition of trolling? 2. Can someone show examples of the trolling by MNW (links, pictures, etc)?
1. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll2. just check his post history
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[OVER] RIDDLES 2nd edition --- this was claimed. Look out for 3rd edition! I won't ever ask for a loan nor offer any escrow service. If I do, please consider my account as hacked.
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