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August 14, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
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Exactly.  The "prettiness" of the case has to be about the stupidest complaint for any industrial device.  Personally I would be happy if any ASIC manufacturer just delivered boards.  A board in a ghetto rack hashing today is worth a LOT more than a board is some pretty backordered case which will ship in "two weeks".
Case design is about longevity. As a broker I'd prefer for my clients hardware to survive being shipped round the globe. Some of my Avalons have taken more flights in 6 months than I have in my entire life.

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August 14, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
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I'm not trying to start a conspiracy theory here as I'm sure they just moved it to get it out of the way, but it is interesting nonetheless.

Bitcoinorama, since you are the uploader of this video, just curious--were you there at the open day?
Of course he was.  And if that doesn't give you room for another conspiracy theory you aren't trying to start, I don't what could.

Thanks, I'll get right on coming up with something.
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August 14, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
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I'm not trying to start a conspiracy theory here as I'm sure they just moved it to get it out of the way, but it is interesting nonetheless.

Bitcoinorama, since you are the uploader of this video, just curious--were you there at the open day?
Of course he was.  And if that doesn't give you room for another conspiracy theory you aren't trying to start, I don't what could.

Thanks, I'll get right on coming up with something.

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August 14, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
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The FUD in this thread is astounding.

KNC, thanks for the update; it's nice to see things coming along.

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August 14, 2013, 10:02:27 PM
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It looks like they have not changed the airflow profile in the case design any.  I wonder what the deltaT is going to be from the front 'cooler' chips to the rear 'hotter' ones. A linear airflow would have been more ideal. Oh well caseless it is.

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August 14, 2013, 10:11:46 PM
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Wait wait wait wait wait... that's they're Jupiter cooling? ROFLMAO. Those heatsinks are rated for peak of ~140W, not 250. And they think they can exhaust 1kw of heat with 2 standard 120mm fans?

My 1x250mm 1x200mm, 5x140mm and 2x120mm case was struggling with 800-900W. I told you those thermal simulations were really, really wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, KNC lives in the clouds.

Don't you get tired of pretending to be smarter than just about everyone else? I can see it now, the big failure... clearly, KNC should've entrusted you with the design, as the OrSOC engineers obviously know nothing about chip design/thermals Roll Eyes.
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August 14, 2013, 10:12:05 PM
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those cases will not survive shipment.

wtf is this lol.

it is ugly, not durable, looking cheap and disgusting.

terrible design.

it is such a shame...

LOL,

go buy a BFL product. Decent Design but you'll never see it.

I don't thing any sane person cares what the case looks like as long as the device hashes. I'd prefer mine to look like a trashcan, no one would ever steal it!

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August 14, 2013, 10:20:13 PM
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Why 5V external power?  Most ATX PSU are designed to deliver most of their power on the 12V rail(s).
+1 to why external power.  I thought these were supposed to be professional mining machines?  Who has a rack full of machines with external power supplies hanging off of them like dingle berries?
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August 14, 2013, 10:22:09 PM
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those cases will not survive shipment.

wtf is this lol.

it is ugly, not durable, looking cheap and disgusting.

terrible design.

it is such a shame...

LOL,

go buy a BFL product. Decent Design but you'll never see it.

I don't thing any sane person cares what the case looks like as long as the device hashes. I'd prefer mine to look like a trashcan, no one would ever steal it!

Yet this is an example of one of the rarest and endangered butterflies on earth;

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/5015fc3486176144c53751877/images/P1010328c39ef4.JPG
Actually they aren't that rare any more at all ...

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August 14, 2013, 11:20:43 PM
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Wait wait wait wait wait... that's they're Jupiter cooling? ROFLMAO. Those heatsinks are rated for peak of ~140W, not 250. And they think they can exhaust 1kw of heat with 2 standard 120mm fans?

My 1x250mm 1x200mm, 5x140mm and 2x120mm case was struggling with 800-900W. I told you those thermal simulations were really, really wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, KNC lives in the clouds.

Don't you get tired of pretending to be smarter than just about everyone else? I can see it now, the big failure... clearly, KNC should've entrusted you with the design, as the OrSOC engineers obviously know nothing about chip design/thermals Roll Eyes.

I've worked with 100s of desktop based heatsinks, but whatever go ahead. They still never explained their simulations that were FAILED.

Enjoy your vapourware/house fire.

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August 14, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
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THose 4 fans just look like off-the-shelf Noctua coolers to me.  Not implying anything... I trust KNC myself...but just saying...

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August 14, 2013, 11:35:19 PM
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Wait wait wait wait wait... that's they're Jupiter cooling? ROFLMAO. Those heatsinks are rated for peak of ~140W, not 250. And they think they can exhaust 1kw of heat with 2 standard 120mm fans?

My 1x250mm 1x200mm, 5x140mm and 2x120mm case was struggling with 800-900W. I told you those thermal simulations were really, really wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, KNC lives in the clouds.


Ohhhh such an expert! LOL!
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August 14, 2013, 11:41:32 PM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-28

KNC is looking good so far IMO. Can't wait to see the PCB samples next week...

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August 14, 2013, 11:43:18 PM
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It looks like they have not changed the airflow profile in the case design any.  I wonder what the deltaT is going to be from the front 'cooler' chips to the rear 'hotter' ones. A linear airflow would have been more ideal. Oh well caseless it is.


All I need is a simple drawing of the mounting holes.   Roll Eyes

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August 14, 2013, 11:43:26 PM
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Wait wait wait wait wait... that's they're Jupiter cooling? ROFLMAO. Those heatsinks are rated for peak of ~140W, not 250. And they think they can exhaust 1kw of heat with 2 standard 120mm fans?

My 1x250mm 1x200mm, 5x140mm and 2x120mm case was struggling with 800-900W. I told you those thermal simulations were really, really wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, KNC lives in the clouds.

Don't you get tired of pretending to be smarter than just about everyone else? I can see it now, the big failure... clearly, KNC should've entrusted you with the design, as the OrSOC engineers obviously know nothing about chip design/thermals Roll Eyes.

I've worked with 100s of desktop based heatsinks, but whatever go ahead. They still never explained their simulations that were FAILED.

Enjoy your vapourware/house fire.

Gee, a specialist IC/ASIC design team in business for over a decade, or armchair expert that can't spell his own namesake;

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August 14, 2013, 11:43:44 PM
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The FUD in this thread is astounding.

KNC, thanks for the update; it's nice to see things coming along.
Yeah, a lot of FUD, but also just a lot of fatuous pontificating, and second guessing the professionals.  

That's why it's a fun read.  It's like listening to sports talk radio.  It not only the opinions of the callers that are a hoot, it's the self-righteous certainty with which they hold those opinions which makes it funny.
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August 14, 2013, 11:47:57 PM
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Wait wait wait wait wait... that's they're Jupiter cooling? ROFLMAO. Those heatsinks are rated for peak of ~140W, not 250. And they think they can exhaust 1kw of heat with 2 standard 120mm fans?

My 1x250mm 1x200mm, 5x140mm and 2x120mm case was struggling with 800-900W. I told you those thermal simulations were really, really wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, KNC lives in the clouds.

Heatsinks are Arctic i/A30 which are rated for Max. Cooling Capacity 320 Watts
You are some sort of an expert, aren't you?
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August 14, 2013, 11:50:07 PM
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those cases will not survive shipment.

wtf is this lol.

it is ugly, not durable, looking cheap and disgusting.

terrible design.

it is such a shame...

LOL,

go buy a BFL product. Decent Design but you'll never see it.

I don't thing any sane person cares what the case looks like as long as the device hashes. I'd prefer mine to look like a trashcan, no one would ever steal it!

Another option is Avalon: excellent design, but held up in customs.

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August 14, 2013, 11:58:35 PM
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Wait wait wait wait wait... that's they're Jupiter cooling? ROFLMAO. Those heatsinks are rated for peak of ~140W, not 250. And they think they can exhaust 1kw of heat with 2 standard 120mm fans?

My 1x250mm 1x200mm, 5x140mm and 2x120mm case was struggling with 800-900W. I told you those thermal simulations were really, really wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, KNC lives in the clouds.

You are obviously clueless, I suggest you check the specs of the components before pretending you know better.

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/cpu/473/freezer-a30.html

And the case fans are clearly 140mm. unless my eyes device me. Remember the case is 200mm high, about 4.5RU.


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August 14, 2013, 11:58:44 PM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-28

KNC is looking good so far IMO. Can't wait to see the PCB samples next week...

Cool ..then put your money where your mouth is !!!

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Or are you a little biatch !  Cool


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