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May 19, 2018, 01:20:36 AM
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bitcoin is no ponzi scheme just that its system is quiet different from what they usually know and do its fee charge,trading and investing system and so on.So its no ponzi scheme

Yes agree with you. Bitcoin existence can prove that it is quite different to Ponzi scheme. Ponzi scheme will not really exceed for long term like 9-10 years in operation. And besides bitcoin transactions or investment will collecting charges to enables investors doing trading, exchanging and etc, or a decentralized forms of investment generally. Unlike ponzi scheme it is a pyramidal form that operates in short time and vanished with all of our money were being steal.
Of course bitcoin is not a ponzi scheme, anyone can benefit from bitcoin not just an early user but a new user can benefit from bitcoin, no pyramid system and besides bitcoin will not be a scam like ponzi system. I don't know why the op says that because bitcoin is so much different from ponzi scheme. bitcoin can be used currency and investment and it is different with ponzi..
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May 19, 2018, 02:32:14 AM
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bitcoin is no ponzi scheme just that its system is quiet different from what they usually know and do its fee charge,trading and investing system and so on.So its no ponzi scheme

Yes agree with you. Bitcoin existence can prove that it is quite different to Ponzi scheme. Ponzi scheme will not really exceed for long term like 9-10 years in operation. And besides bitcoin transactions or investment will collecting charges to enables investors doing trading, exchanging and etc, or a decentralized forms of investment generally. Unlike ponzi scheme it is a pyramidal form that operates in short time and vanished with all of our money were being steal.
Of course bitcoin is not a ponzi scheme, anyone can benefit from bitcoin not just an early user but a new user can benefit from bitcoin, no pyramid system and besides bitcoin will not be a scam like ponzi system. I don't know why the op says that because bitcoin is so much different from ponzi scheme. bitcoin can be used currency and investment and it is different with ponzi..


Yes, I would definitely agree with the author of this thread wherein Bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme. I guess this people who had believed that is a ponzi scheme were those who are not very familiar with it and lack of knowledge. Bitcoin is a digital currency and a payment system where beginners should know about it's function in the crypto market. I would assume that those ICO's that has been launching their coins and yet many investors had put in some huge investment on it then later it had gone like a bubble and left the investors for good is where I consider a Ponzi scheme.

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May 19, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
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bitcoin is no ponzi scheme just that its system is quiet different from what they usually know and do its fee charge,trading and investing system and so on.So its no ponzi scheme

Yes agree with you. Bitcoin existence can prove that it is quite different to Ponzi scheme. Ponzi scheme will not really exceed for long term like 9-10 years in operation. And besides bitcoin transactions or investment will collecting charges to enables investors doing trading, exchanging and etc, or a decentralized forms of investment generally. Unlike ponzi scheme it is a pyramidal form that operates in short time and vanished with all of our money were being steal.
Ponzi schemes are something that bitcoin will not he capable of doing ir becoming so because in the first place it is already an established coin in the market. With bitcoin, everyone profits from their own investment which is not like what happens on pyramiding and Ponzi schemes where the head will take advantage of its subordinates and profit not only on their investments bit also from the investment of others.

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May 19, 2018, 11:07:00 AM
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I had arguments  with my friends  who are always  tagging  bitcoin with negativity. Today, we argued  and I educated them on bitcoin and Ponzi scheme.  To me Ponzi scheme  is when developers takes  money from new entrance to pay early birds,rinse and repeat until they raise enough and vanish. But bitcoin  is not like that.  Do you think I am right?

This is an interesting topic and affects the way we should view Bitcoin. Because it only increases in value as more people invest, in this way it is similar to a ponzi scheme, however it is not a ponzi scheme but rather a new emerging technology/ industry, hence the spike in value and adoption.
Yeah this is the reason why many people are afraid to invest in bitcoin as they don't want to be a victim of this ponzi scheme. I'm getting tried of explaining to them why this is not a ponzi. Somehow little by little my friends had now realize that it's all about supply and demand that's makes the price became volatile.
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May 19, 2018, 11:45:41 AM
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i dont think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme, i just see that bitcoin is like gold but in digital form, so if you think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme maybe gold is a ponzi scheme too, hahaha. it just my opinion i dont know people think about bitcoin and i hope your argumetation with your friend will clear soon

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May 19, 2018, 12:01:42 PM
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In light of everything previously written, it is safe to say that if a person declares bitcoin a Ponzi scheme, then he simply does not understand what it is. If you read the bitcoin whitepaper, you will not find a word from the creators about mandatory investments in the currency and anything related to it. The eight-page document is entirely devoted to the creation and development of a currency that is resistant to the process of centralization. You need to understand that the founder of bitcoin has never run away with a lot of money, no one asks to recruit new people and investors, no one promises and does not guarantee monthly / regular income and no one controls bitcoin
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May 19, 2018, 12:04:13 PM
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i dont think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme, i just see that bitcoin is like gold but in digital form, so if you think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme maybe gold is a ponzi scheme too, hahaha. it just my opinion i dont know people think about bitcoin and i hope your argumetation with your friend will clear soon

because verbally bitcoin is capable of playing any role in the crypto business, and ordinary people tend to think of it merely as an investment that does not have a guarantor so it makes sense for them to think like that, bitcoin price fluctuations are seen to be bubble patterns and many people associate them with ponzi, it's wrong because cryptocurrency ecosystems are so complex and complementary.
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May 19, 2018, 12:06:51 PM
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Your defense as to whether bitcoin is a ponzi or not are very valid and i totally agree with you.If bitcoin is a ponzi,then same can be said for over 60 percent of all stocks since they really are not backed by an actually company with profitability being the sole drive of price appreciation.Bitcoin is not a ponzi
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May 19, 2018, 01:21:28 PM
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You're right, bitcoins are not really ponzi schemes. So it is called Ponzi scheme because it is used only by exploiting people. And you do not need to talk to your friends anymore because you know who you are in and do not have to worry about it.
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May 19, 2018, 01:22:45 PM
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No it's about supply and demand, a ponzi scheme is about claiming your money from the next person who gets in and so on.
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May 19, 2018, 01:43:04 PM
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No Bitcoin is the main power of Crypto
maybe You listen Wrong bitconnect project is Scam but bitcoin is Not .
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May 19, 2018, 03:46:44 PM
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I don't think bitcoin is a scheme, however, there is so many high yield investment programme that pays people using bitcoin as one of the payment processors. since high yield investment programme is very risky when the programme become scam then some of the participant will be thinking the owe payment method used is scam. the same thing happens in my country. people participated in a popular scheme called MMM and today when you discuss about bitcoin to people they will start to think you are introducing another ponzi scheme to them
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May 19, 2018, 06:38:34 PM
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I think ponzi scheme is a phrase associated with something that tends to be negative.
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May 19, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
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Definetly NO
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May 19, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
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No it's about supply and demand, a ponzi scheme is about claiming your money from the next person who gets in and so on.
true this is what ponzi scheme for and we see that bitcoin is not to work on this kind of situation that you can get money from one person to another cause you just only have to work by yourself to make some profit to earn for.

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May 19, 2018, 07:10:09 PM
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I had arguments  with my friends  who are always  tagging  bitcoin with negativity. Today, we argued  and I educated them on bitcoin and Ponzi scheme.  To me Ponzi scheme  is when developers takes  money from new entrance to pay early birds,rinse and repeat until they raise enough and vanish. But bitcoin  is not like that.  Do you think I am right?
Yes. It is possible or to earn money through btc it's not like you invest into it and you don't get anything, that's the definition of a ponzi scheme being tricked into losing money. Btc is well recognized . A user should take precautions of trading on official websites and it's their duty to confirm their not falling for a phising scam.
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May 19, 2018, 07:21:23 PM
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Ponzi scheme always implies centralization as there is someone who pulls all his funds out which collapses the whole pyramid. However, bitcoin is designed in a way that makes it pretty decentalized and therefore it's very hard for anybody to aggregate so much of it to be able to collapse the system.

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May 19, 2018, 07:54:57 PM
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In this situation, I would do a couple things, first, I would remind your friend that the "Ponzi scheme" was actually executed with the currency fiat, and not with the crypto currency. Secondly - some people are simply ignorant, if they are not going to receive it, this is normal
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May 20, 2018, 10:43:15 AM
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This is also a demonstration of the standard operation of a bubble. It looks like a Ponzi scheme or a pyramid scheme. If I buy bitcoin today, it will be more valuable tomorrow because others have bought it at a higher price. As an existing “investor,” I am benefitting from others getting in. Meanwhile, what I’m actually owning is a bitcoin. Don’t get me wrong, bitcoin is valuable, but it’s not worth $10,000 per coin, or even $1,000 per coin. It’s a currency. It’s not Amazon or Apple stock.
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May 20, 2018, 10:58:32 AM
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Bitcoin fees are high. Bitcoin is not used for transferring money. There are no projects about bitcoin. İts price only rises when there are more buyers, so It acts like a Ponzi scheme nowsadays.
Banks and most financial institutions only provide services by helping to transfer people's money or keep them until they are due to be collected. On the other hand, Bitcoin provides faster transaction speed and a safer blockchain based environment which are the services customers want. Why are banks not ponzi schemes too ?
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