[ANN] GARLICOIN - Reddit's Garlic Bread Worshiping Currency

[tox22544]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

[flekkelek]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

I can see also 2-3GH/s ethereum workers on nanopool. So what? I can see a few workers around 50MH/s but if it's everything they can come up with, I think the chain is secured from the 51%.

[TonalDynamics]

Well, I think this is not legit. I wonder why bitcointalk administration hasn't been contacted before there are 18 pages of FUD. And now it has grown into a nice heading.

To answer your question, it started as an [ANN] post without all this accusation. He cultivated this post to 18 pages. The he pulled a bait-and-switch and abruptly changed everything on the first page.

But WHY did he do that?! I think there is something behind it.

He is a triggerhappy wannabe scambuster, hunting for merits, probably, because we have seen no evidence this far.

There's all the evidence one'd need to figure out that the devs created a coin with a non-ASIC resistant algo and still went on to advertise it as such. I had to warn people about such a decelptive coin.

Can we just remove all the scam FUD from the OP while we're at it? It doesn't make any sense and they have been debunked

Nothing has been debunked. You can't debunk anything and hence why you're in denial.

Your "proof" is not the issue here.

As you are not part of the official dev team, you don't have the right to create an [ANN] thread on behalf of the coin creators.

Now for whatever reason you've become salty and are abusing power you shouldn't have to denigrate the name of this coin, meme or not, in massive red letters. You are not the sole judge and jury for the intentions of the devs , nor should you be allowed to pass summary judgement by calling it a scam in a thread that was made to look like an official announcement.

BTC talk really needs some kind of subforum which enables dev teams to prove their legitimacy with some kind of verification process to keep this sort of thing from happening.

[OPisLiterallyaGnome]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

Hello, you are wrong. 50-100MHs are not ASICS, they are people who invest in something called a GPU farm / Cloud Computing. I've purchased mining power from a somebody in the discord and he showed me the process. It's access to P100 Tesla GPUs provided by google.

https://i.gyazo.com/6532d1c57a894118af6737861d7082b8.jpg

Here is an instance of 12 of them running at 3.3MH/s... or in total ~40MH/s...

This one specific user mentioned he has access to enough of them to pull 100MH/s... These are NOT ASICs and your argument is invalid.

[flekkelek]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

Hello, you are wrong. 50-100MHs are not ASICS, they are people who invest in something called a GPU farm / Cloud Computing. I've purchased mining power from a somebody in the discord and he showed me the process. It's access to P100 Tesla GPUs provided by google.

https://i.gyazo.com/6532d1c57a894118af6737861d7082b8.jpg

Here is an instance of 12 of them running at 3.3MH/s... or in total ~40MH/s...

This one specific user mentioned he has access to enough of them to pull 100MH/s... These are NOT ASICs and your argument is invalid.

I was searching for this exactly in the reddit post, because I remebered something like that, but thank you for clarifying.

[Anubis]

Question. Is this site relevant? is this really an airdrop work form ?
https://garlicoinairdrop.com

Yes it is.
https://www.reddit.com/r/garlicoin/comments/7v3qr2/the_official_garlicoin_airdrop/

Many thanks.
In some sources write that it was necessary to register in advance. Or is it not so?

I just created a wallet, filled out a form, and confirmed through reddit.
Then I get a drop?

You must ne subscribed to this subreddit before airdrop start to get it.

Once again many thanks for the detailed information. Last question.
The number of coins for each airdrop participant is not known?

[alani123]

As you are not part of the official dev team, you don't have the right to create an [ANN] thread on behalf of the coin creators.

I see that supporters of this coin are quite fond of the developer dictactor's propaganda. Why do you dislike freedom of speech so much? Perhaps cryptocurrency isn't for you if you're so easily upset.

You can deny that Garlicoin isn't a dead coin all you want but for now it seems to be deteriorating in exchanges, almost twice as much than most other cryptos did today.

I'm sorry if the truth rustled you but as all other Garlicoin supporters have pointed out after the lord and savior DigitalizedOrange spoke, there's clearly no need to be upset.

Only dreams now.

[tox22544]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

Hello, you are wrong. 50-100MHs are not ASICS, they are people who invest in something called a GPU farm / Cloud Computing. I've purchased mining power from a somebody in the discord and he showed me the process. It's access to P100 Tesla GPUs provided by google.

https://i.gyazo.com/6532d1c57a894118af6737861d7082b8.jpg

Here is an instance of 12 of them running at 3.3MH/s... or in total ~40MH/s...

This one specific user mentioned he has access to enough of them to pull 100MH/s... These are NOT ASICs and your argument is invalid.

There is only one problem in this story - rent for one P100 is about $2 per hour for 900 Kh/s.

[flekkelek]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

Hello, you are wrong. 50-100MHs are not ASICS, they are people who invest in something called a GPU farm / Cloud Computing. I've purchased mining power from a somebody in the discord and he showed me the process. It's access to P100 Tesla GPUs provided by google.

https://i.gyazo.com/6532d1c57a894118af6737861d7082b8.jpg

Here is an instance of 12 of them running at 3.3MH/s... or in total ~40MH/s...

This one specific user mentioned he has access to enough of them to pull 100MH/s... These are NOT ASICs and your argument is invalid.

There is only one problem in this story - rent for one P100 is about $2 per hour for 900 Kh/s.

Except you have free trial.

[OPisLiterallyaGnome]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

Hello, you are wrong. 50-100MHs are not ASICS, they are people who invest in something called a GPU farm / Cloud Computing. I've purchased mining power from a somebody in the discord and he showed me the process. It's access to P100 Tesla GPUs provided by google.

https://i.gyazo.com/6532d1c57a894118af6737861d7082b8.jpg

Here is an instance of 12 of them running at 3.3MH/s... or in total ~40MH/s...

This one specific user mentioned he has access to enough of them to pull 100MH/s... These are NOT ASICs and your argument is invalid.

There is only one problem in this story - rent for one P100 is about $2 per hour for 900 Kh/s.

So essentially you're saying I photoshopped that image? You can very clearly see the model of the P100 and hashrate on each of the 12 instances. You can ask @phelps#1337 on the discord exactly how he got them to run at that hash and exact details on it, however it would be absolute ignorance of fact to say they aren't getting 3.3MH/s per instance.

[tox22544]

To conclude, there's a reason scrypt-n died as a PoW algo in 2014. Garlicoin should fork if it wants to live.

May be dev team have some Scrypt-N ASICs that cant mine other coins - so no reason to change algo.

Yes surely... So why can't we see those ASICs on the network?

Are you realy cant see 50-100MHs worker on pools? This is real performance of KnC Titans on Scrypt-N with 2-3 cube.

One of this ASIC worker https://garli.co.in/address/Ga6GecmXgpP9hwiXwH2ACchCrchkr1CaZL (Digital_mike)

Hello, you are wrong. 50-100MHs are not ASICS, they are people who invest in something called a GPU farm / Cloud Computing. I've purchased mining power from a somebody in the discord and he showed me the process. It's access to P100 Tesla GPUs provided by google.

https://i.gyazo.com/6532d1c57a894118af6737861d7082b8.jpg

Here is an instance of 12 of them running at 3.3MH/s... or in total ~40MH/s...

This one specific user mentioned he has access to enough of them to pull 100MH/s... These are NOT ASICs and your argument is invalid.

There is only one problem in this story - rent for one P100 is about $2 per hour for 900 Kh/s.

Except you have free trial.

Free trial need real credit card approved to account. And it give for free $300. Lets see 300/(12*$2)=12.5 Hours. But all of this miners are from start of this coin. Do you really think that Google does not impose fines on miners on trial?

[alani123]

Except you have free trial.

And breaking the TOS.

Op. Please show me a verified instance of a KNC Titan mining scrypt-n ABOVE nfactor 11 (2048)

Code does not count. You can put fake code that never does anything and no one would find out if the code is never called on.

There has never been a scrypt-n coin that went above nfactor 11. (vertcoin forked before this, I'm suspecting because the potential for a asic to be capable of it wasn't worth it the risk to try and call out its bluff)

I don't doubt the titan can do nfactor 11, but I do have my doubts that it's capable of anything HIGHER than nfactor 11, and all research I've done leads to my doubts that it's capable of anything higher than nfactor 11.

No other miner has come out that can do scryptn. The only other I've seen that launched was the Miner Wolf V1 and it ONLY claimed to do scrypt-n before it launched. Post launch they removed all text supporting scrypt-n (I'm guessing it originally was going to have scrypt-n capabilities but they dropped all support due to cost)

ALL other scrypt-n claimed devices have been FAKE or UNRELEASED (dropped due to costs, etc)

There are little to no technical documentation on the chips put into asics. This means the capabilities of the devices vs the actual technical specs could be wildly different. They can CLAIM it can do nfactor 19 but that doesn't mean it can. Nfactor 19 takes 256X more memory than nfactor 11 by the way.

do you really think they jammed 256x more memory into a device? Do you have any idea how much memory that would be?

I can't even find any VERIFIED documentation stating the per asic memory capacity of the knc titan. I found one claim that it had 300mb but it wasn't verified whether or not that was per die or not.

also the price of grlc correlates nicely with the bitcoin crash. Bitcoin is down at 7k and has already dipped below 6k for a brief period. The current price is really no big deal

I don't own a Titan. Would you be kind enough to ask owners to help you independently confirm that it can indeed run scrypt-n? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283859.0 The miners ability to mine scrypt-n has already been documented in several blogs (example) but if you want photographic evidence only an owner could provide such.

You might not want to tell them about Garlicoin using scrypt-n though because they could destroy it for fun (and profit) as they did with a ton of shitcoins back in 2014 already.  

[Crypto-watch-Talk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this whole coin just a joke that started on reddit.

They basically said if they get 'x' amount of upvotes they will make the coin. Then they made it because they got the upvotes. So my question is why is everyone taking this coin so serious, it's a Cryptocurrency for garlic bread people like come on.

[antibs]

Can we stop adding to the flame and just Report this guy and his thread?

He's either
1). Extremely stubborn/dogmatic and like to stick to his narrative despite reasons
2). a troll that has too much time on his hand

[teerex]

Any links to working ASICs (N-Factor: 10; N: 2048)?

KNC Titan can mine Garlicoin and any scrypt-n coin with an n up to 19. It's a released miner that had went onto production. Units of it are still sold second hand. Very powerful one, mind you.
https://github.com/KnCMiner/knc-asic/blob/d83f1e67785eff0af00175d85564ace840c28186/knc-asic.h#L10

After further investigation, Bitmain's the most reputable manufacturer, L1 miner seems to be capable of mining scrypt-n. Read below:

Our brand new, high-performance L1 will be hashing at 120MH/s with the market-best pricing of only $599.00 USD per unit with free shipping worldwide, hailing in at a market-topping rate $5/MH/s. This ensures our L1 will be absolute the best $/MH/s as well as power efficiency spec in the Scrypt mining market. What’s more, a dramatic discount will be given to bulk orders.
L1 will be produced with our state-of-art chip powered by the 28nm tech process. The efficiency is only 2.37J/MH at Core Voltage 0.81v on chip level. The Core Voltage and Hash Rate will be adjustable by software, over clocking and under clocking will be very easy to operate while miners trade-off the speed and efficiency. Moreover, the miner will be able to mine multifarious scrypt based altcoin, of which scrypt length can be 1024, 2048, 4096 (n = 10, 11 or 12).

The above miners are confirmed to have been released and both able to mine Garlicoin. Scrypt-n is certainly ASIC broken, miners that can mine Garlicoin exist already too and more could be created as well.
There are other SCRYPT-N ASICs that were advertised but I don't have confirmation about their releases (all listed below). A user in this thread talked about the following having been released:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140814181936/https://www.hashcoins.com/product/hashcoins-notus/
https://web.archive.org/web/20150421022449/https://www.hashcoins.com/product/hashcoins-triton/

Anyone knows about the future plan of the dev, so that those who invested in this coin will not lose the trust they have.

Old ASICs for this algo cost less than $100 and do 5-35 MH/s

which ASICs do scrypt-n?

Triton, Notus etc https://forum.bitmmgp.ru/vse-asiki-dlja-majninga-bitkoin.t184/

Taking a second look at this, how could the devs have overlooked this. Didn't Vertcoin switch from that algo for that very reason? Because ASICs for it were hitting the market. They were rendered useless pretty quickly though.

May be dev team have a lot of this ASIC so they choose this algo. In fact this ASICs was created by only one Estonian/Russian company some years ago and now you cant buy this new ASIC. I have bouhgt in Moscow 6 used Tritons fo $80-110 each. Each give 5-12 Mh/s (suppose some chips already broken) in Scrypt-N.

More over, http://blissdevices.com/ and https://www.flowertechnology.com/have been talked about by different companies but most seem to have vanished after vertcoin and its forked switched algos back in the day so I can't vouch for their validity as there aren't enough records.

There's also a company that has a working prototype and upcoming releases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYuv93BHqu0

BITMAIN Antminer L1 - CANCELLED production, preorders got refunded. This is not "confirmed to have been released".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768004.0
"hashcoins ASICs" - preorders was in 2014, possibly not shipped.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.860
You did search before posting?

Looks like KNC Titan is only viable existing option. We see variables in code. Benchmarks would be great.
I couldn't find if it actually would work and how well it would perform, compared to modern GPU (you can't get same hashrate for scrypt and scrypt-N).
Any more info?

[antibs]

A simple google search (ironic, considering OP is a self-proclaimed "professional googler") will show how unviable the KNC titan is as an ASIC miner.

1). KNC titan is most likely a scam
2). High-fixed cost --> not profitable.

OP also fails to know anything about the ASIC mining industry. The Newest ASIC miners are becoming outdated/unprofitable in an ever-increasing rate. And OP still thinks KNC Titan, an expensive ancient junk from 2014, will discrupt the GRLC system.

Not to mention how OP repeatedly failed to prove GRLC is not ASIC-resistant.

My advice, report OP and his thread to the mod.

[ecoin_bestcoin]

Garlicoin should change their POW algo

[bubdubub]

the "example" is showing SCRYPT capabilities, not scrypt-n. The difference being scrypt isn't adaptive (it doesn't change over time) and coins like litecoin are forever stuck at nfactor 10 (unlike scrypt-n's nfactor 11 with automatic increases over time)

also, the speeds they show in that article are very clearly indicative of nfactor 10 mining (as the knc was showing to do nfactor 11 at about half the rate it can do nfactor 10, which is how pretty much all devices react to nfactor bumps as long as they have the memory capacity)

I am NOT doubting that the knc titan can do nfactor 10 or nfactor 11. I AM doubting it can do nfactor 12 or above. There aren't any coins out right now that even run nfactor 12 so there would be no way to currently test such capabilites. (and there weren't any when the knc titan was in production as vertcoin forked away from scrpyt-n before doing an nfactor bump.

Vertcoin already experimented with different nfactors and basically the consensus was to switch to a different hashing method.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404364

It's not the argument if an ASIC exists now, its if an ASIC could be designed to mine scrypt:n and the overwhelming idea is that its possible. So if you're looking for long term success, no scryptn is not the way to go. There's a reason most scryptn, x11, x13 coins are dead or on their way there.

>inb4 litecoin is still alive and well
There's no economic analysis to say ASICs are a bad thing for cryptocurrencies. Yes it 'tends' to lead to centralization and away from the original intended model. But for all intesive purposes the coins that are doing really well are getting pounded by ASICs.

So basically you have 2 choices, not claim ASIC resistance, or not give a fuck. Unfortunately Garlicoin already claimed ASIC resistance.

[Lexxon]

Did anyone really believe that this project could take off? He started as a joke, walked like a joke and just ends. It is unlikely that the change in the algorithm will help.

[TonalDynamics]

As you are not part of the official dev team, you don't have the right to create an [ANN] thread on behalf of the coin creators.

I see that supporters of this coin are quite fond of the developer dictactor's propaganda. Why do you dislike freedom of speech so much? Perhaps cryptocurrency isn't for you if you're so easily upset.

You can deny that Garlicoin isn't a dead coin all you want but for now it seems to be deteriorating in exchanges, almost twice as much than most other cryptos did today.

I'm sorry if the truth rustled you but as all other Garlicoin supporters have pointed out after the lord and savior DigitalizedOrange spoke, there's clearly no need to be upset.
https://media.giphy.com/media/JwNPAckJDiPsI/giphy.gif
Only dreams now.
https://i.imgur.com/sBmeuTA.png

Two things, first off it's not a freedom of speech issue. You didn't just express your opinion about the developers, you misrepresented yourself as someone who has the authority to post an [ANN] thread for a coin that you officially have nothing to do with, made it look legitimate, then after generating traffic and views to said post performed an about-face and used that assumed legitimacy to degrade the good name of the coin and the project.

What you're doing isn't practicing free speech, it's closer to slander which in the U.S. there are actually laws against. But this is the internet so yeah.

Secondly - chill. The coin is two weeks old and yet you feel the need to conduct some kind of organized attack on it via a salty witch-hunt. You're not psychic and you can't know for sure the intentions of the devs. Just try to investigate things and discuss it in a civilized manner instead of hurling accusations and damning judgements in flaming red letters, geez dude.

As I said, we need moderation in a board which enables official devs. to confirm their identities before being allowed to post an [ANN] thread of any sort to eliminate this kind of nonsense.