[WTS] How to Ship ANYWHERE via trackable USPS-Literally THE CHEAPEST (0.03BTC)

[Littleshop]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

I pretty much know what it the way is.  The only thing is a hair splitting on the tracking.  The tracking is not end to end worldwide.  There are many countries that are not connected to USPS tracking even with priority mail.  If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

Respectfully, I am not wrong-you are. I use this method to ship more valuable goods/orders where I don't know the buyer and their trustworthiness. It has worked, tracking all the while, to countries all over the world. I most commonly ship to Australia, Canada, and Great Britain. However, I have shipped to Spain, Germany, more European countries I can't think of, Singapore, Hong Kong, and even El Salvador and Argentina.

Tracking works on this list:

Australia
Belgium
Brazil
Croatia
Denmark
France
Germany
Great Britain
Ireland
Israel
Netherlands
New Zealand
Spain

USPS may add to the list but t certainly is not anywhere.

If you ship to Chile, India or many other countries, it will not be tracked past the USA.  

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[DobZombie]

I only posted the recipient's address because its available publicly online. It actually belongs to a user here on the forums ; )


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Hey, I know that guy 

[inspiredinvestor]

thanks johnniewalker for the guide, I mostly wanted to use it to ship things from the US to Australia, and their is a lot of great tips. looking forward to painfree shipping!

cheers
inspiredinvestor

[dnaleor]

Maybe you just need to switch the sender and receivers address?
My brother always tries to send a postcard or letter with this method when he is on holiday

I received FREE letters from him from Ireland, Spain, Netherlands, Germany, Italy and even Egypt!

[ssateneth]

Basically, he is saying that USPS International priority with small flat rate boxes cannot be tracked outside of USA (with the exception of canada)

https://hdusps.esecurecare.net/cgi-bin/hdusps.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=6624

"Unlike Priority Mail Express International (PMEI), the Priority Mail International (PMI) product does not have a dedicated label with a tracking number.

The USPS captures scans for L-series labels at acceptance in the US, but foreign posts are not obligated to scan these items.  Therefore, the PS Form 2976 custom form labels are not trackable internationally, per the Universal Postal Union (UPU).  As a result, the USPS can't provided tracking info for these items beyond the US, and does not advertise items that use this label as a "trackable" service offering.

There are a number of PMI Flat Rate options available for international shipments.  The PMI Large and Medium flat rate boxes may be used for parcels and may be shipped using PS Form 2976-A (based on value and weight) with the C-series label - which is trackable to most destinations.  However, the PMI Flat Rate Envelope and Small Flat Rate Box, which are for lightweight items, use the 2976 (L-series label) and is not a trackable service internationally.

If an insistent customer wants to document a complaint about being unable to track Priority Mail International document a case using: Problem > Sending Mail > Send International Mail > Priority Mail International, add comments in the Additional Information section to describe the situation."

I've sold many items through ebay using small FR PMI boxes and they do not track outside of USA aside from canada. However, I mailed a couple packages to Netherlands. One with PMI which has not tracked outisde of USA, and another to Netherlands, but with First Class International. It tracked all the way to "Delivered" and arrived in only 5 days. In another scenario, I sent a SM FR PMI to Sweden and the person also received it in 5 days, but tracking did not indicate this. He confirmed that he got it by describing the package.

So pretty much, I'm going to take a stab at his guide saying "Use First Class and you get tracking. Use PMI and you don't get tracking."

[WuLabsWuTecH]

I think he's just referring to the click and ship software for businesses or the paypal shipping software.  It allows you to put tracking on things that you can't get tracking on at the post office so you can ship economy and get tracking because paypal requires tracking.  The tracking costs an extra 19-25 cents but because PP requires it, USPS allows you to "purchase" it from the business enterprise software (that is free for anyone to download on their site)

Actually Ebay does NOT allow you to get tracking on anything more then what the post office provides.   Ebays cheapest tracking on international packages is NOW (as of 2013) over $20.  They used to offer the small flat rate box cheaper but they raised the price AND removed reliable tracking on it. 

see double asterisk on:

https://www.usps.com/ship/priority-mail-international.htm

** Not available for Priority Mail International Flat Rate Envelopes or Small Flat Rate Priced Boxes.

Who said anything about eBay?!?!?!   

ebay/paypal are one company.  ebay/paypal have the exact same shipping options because ebays come from paypal. 

True that they are the same company, but paypal has always had additional options not available to ebay (at least up until a few months ago.  I know they changed things recently and I don't use PP for shipping that often anymore and I have never used eBay with a very few limited exceptions).  I haven't used either on since the change so you could be right now.

As far as international tracking goes and what the OP is referring to, there are limited sets of countries that you can get (almost) end to end tracking for.  You lose tracking after it leaves the US and before it enters the destination country, sometimes only getting the new tracking info after your package clears customs.  There are very few countries that you can get true end-to-end tracking with even with express mail.  Among these are Canada (which is mainly because of interoperability agreements) and Hong Kong (which is mainly due to the ePacket service USPS and Hong Kong's mail service signed in 2011).  But there is usually no need for true end-to-end tracking.  Just send USPS first class mail with eDC (or eDelCon as they are calling it now) and use this website (http://www.track-trace.com/) to aid you in your tracking.  Once again, there is no tracking in intermediary countries since their services won't bother entering it into their database if it's just passing through, and in some countries you need to wait until it clears customs before the info is entered into their tracking database.

Also, remember that this is only true for countries that have signed the convention, you will note that only 100 or so countries are available.  Usually these are the countries that have adopted the standard mailing serials LL###...###OO where OO indicates the country of origin.  To the OP, I totally would take you up on that bet if I lived in the bush of Africa.  Alas, I live in a big city in the US...

[johnniewalker]

Whenever I have needed to track a package using my method, its given me some update about the parcel. It could be that its still in the US, that it has been dispatched to receiving country, that it is being processed in receiving country, and most importantly (the only thing I really use it for), when the package reaches the customer. So the way I use it is like tracking via Delivery Confirmation.

[johnniewalker]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

I pretty much know what it the way is.  The only thing is a hair splitting on the tracking.  The tracking is not end to end worldwide.  There are many countries that are not connected to USPS tracking even with priority mail.  If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

Respectfully, I am not wrong-you are. I use this method to ship more valuable goods/orders where I don't know the buyer and their trustworthiness. It has worked, tracking all the while, to countries all over the world. I most commonly ship to Australia, Canada, and Great Britain. However, I have shipped to Spain, Germany, more European countries I can't think of, Singapore, Hong Kong, and even El Salvador and Argentina.

Tracking works on this list:

Australia
Belgium
Brazil
Croatia
Denmark
France
Germany
Great Britain
Ireland
Israel
Netherlands
New Zealand
Spain

USPS may add to the list but t certainly is not anywhere.

If you ship to Chile, India or many other countries, it will not be tracked past the USA.  

You can just admit you were wrong.

[Littleshop]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

I pretty much know what it the way is.  The only thing is a hair splitting on the tracking.  The tracking is not end to end worldwide.  There are many countries that are not connected to USPS tracking even with priority mail.  If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

Respectfully, I am not wrong-you are. I use this method to ship more valuable goods/orders where I don't know the buyer and their trustworthiness. It has worked, tracking all the while, to countries all over the world. I most commonly ship to Australia, Canada, and Great Britain. However, I have shipped to Spain, Germany, more European countries I can't think of, Singapore, Hong Kong, and even El Salvador and Argentina.

Tracking works on this list:

Australia
Belgium
Brazil
Croatia
Denmark
France
Germany
Great Britain
Ireland
Israel
Netherlands
New Zealand
Spain

USPS may add to the list but t certainly is not anywhere.

If you ship to Chile, India or many other countries, it will not be tracked past the USA.  

You can just admit you were wrong.

Why?  You are saying that I am wrong but the documentation is on my side along with other user experiences such as Sateneth in this thread.  I am NOT saying that packages are not tracked in first world countries, I am saying that your allegation of "ANYWHERE" and which would include parts of Africa and South America that are not compatible to US data. 

Anyhow your method for the US is simply to use first class mail package as it is a limit of 13 ounces and I already get the prices AND TRACKING for the USA.  This is not clearly described on the USPS website but it is there.  If you use first class mail non package you get no tracking. 

[DeathAndTaxes]

Not sure what the secret is?  I used the same address the OP provided as an example and got the exact same price with the same "E-DelCon" tracking.  I guess the "secret" is to use any "click to ship" software available from any vendor and just select the mail service you want.

The claim that it provides delivery confirmation anywhere in the world is false.  Not all international post offices return delivery data to USPS for 1st class mail.  USPS can only report what they receive from the destination post office.

http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc2_022.htm

Delivery confirmation on first class packages are available for 14 countries, not "anywhere".  There is no secret you just use click and ship software (like stamp.com, or USPS website) and select first class package as the mail service if you are sending to one of the 14 countries.  If you aren't well you need to find other options because contrary to OP claims there is no delivery confirmation to countries not on the list in the link.

[johnniewalker]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

"End to End" tracking IS available. So you are wrong. No, maybe not to parts of Africa (too bad because I have tons of customers from Malawi), but to certain "first world" countries.

Anyways, as stated, this method has always worked for me. Never was a package lost internationally to ANY country I shipped to and never did a buyer claim to not have received a package.

I can just see the trolls pouring over the fine print on USPS.com

Like I said, this method has always worked for me. If it doesn't work in certain countries in Africa and other mentioned reasons, I never would have found out. Do you know why? Because about 90% of the time I ship to THREE countries (Australia, Canada, Great Britain). And you know what-the method works there! I imagine the majority of the customers I have come from those countries because people in Africa and regions of South America probably don't have bitcoins to spend, let alone even a computer.

So in the battle of technicalities, congratulations, you win. In the battle of real world application and utility, I win.

Also, to address the most recent comment, my method involves no "software" of any kind. Also, stamps.com is a website you have to be a member of, and there are monthly fees. My shipping method involves paying for the cost of postage, plus a fee of a quarter (yes a quarter, literally 25 cents), printing your postage, applying it, and shipping. You can do it any number of times you want, the cost always stays the same.

You guys sound so smart spitting out all the facts you're getting from god knows where (hope its time well spent). I'm surprised you haven't just figured it out yet ; )

[DeathAndTaxes]

Also, to address the most recent comment, my method involves no "software" of any kind. Also, stamps.com is a website you have to be a member of, and there are monthly fees. My shipping method involves paying for the cost of postage, plus a fee of a quarter (yes a quarter, literally 25 cents), printing your postage, applying it, and shipping. You can do it any number of times you want, the cost always stays the same.

stamps.com was just an example.  One can use USPS website as well.

[Gleason]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

Also, to address the most recent comment, my method involves no "software" of any kind. Also, stamps.com is a website you have to be a member of, and there are monthly fees. My shipping method involves paying for the cost of postage, plus a fee of a quarter (yes a quarter, literally 25 cents), printing your postage, applying it, and shipping. You can do it any number of times you want, the cost always stays the same.

Stamps.com is easy. Allows for quick First Class international shipping. ( And any other USPS shipping you desire. )

There is no "25cent fee" per package, so if you are shipping over 60 packages, you will cover the Stamps.com monlthy fee, and end up saving money on every package after the OPs guide he is selling. Stamps.com also gives you a free scale, and free postage when signing up. ( which takes all of 3 minutes ) .

If you end up shipping in volume through Stamps.com, they will waive the monthly fee all together.

And if you ship in high-volume through Stamps/USPS, they will also allow you to do First Class domestic mailing, up to 1lb for a first class rate of $4.05 .

[johnniewalker]

Also, to address the most recent comment, my method involves no "software" of any kind. Also, stamps.com is a website you have to be a member of, and there are monthly fees. My shipping method involves paying for the cost of postage, plus a fee of a quarter (yes a quarter, literally 25 cents), printing your postage, applying it, and shipping. You can do it any number of times you want, the cost always stays the same.

stamps.com was just an example.  One can use USPS website as well.

The shipping option [method] I use is not available as a selection on USPS.com. Don't you think there would be no need for a comprehensive guide if that was the case? Show me the option from usps.com that allows you to ship internationally with a tracking number for less than $10.

And to the person above me...60 packages? I'm a person, not a factory.

I really don't know why its the nature of people on the internet to troll and try as hard as they possibly can to disprove someone who they otherwise should have absolutely nothing against.

No one who hasn't paid for my guide can describe the shipping method I use. You guys all fail on that level. If someone gets close to hitting the nail on the head, I'll post the guide on here for free for everyone to see. Otherwise, I don't think anyone has anything to say.

[Littleshop]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

"End to End" tracking IS available. So you are wrong. No, maybe not to parts of Africa (too bad because I have tons of customers from Malawi), but to certain "first world" countries.

So really have some pretty bad logic there.  You have been proven wrong even with your own writing and still are calling others wrong. 

ANYWHERE <> "certain first world countries"

[DeathAndTaxes]

No one who hasn't paid for my guide can describe the shipping method I use.

Of course they can, it is right in the photo of the address label and available from any online shipping outlet, no guide necessary.

[johnniewalker]

You guys are just .03 BTC away.

If you are saying that a cheaper option is FULLY tracked end to end then you are probably wrong.  

"End to End" tracking IS available. So you are wrong. No, maybe not to parts of Africa (too bad because I have tons of customers from Malawi), but to certain "first world" countries.

So really have some pretty bad logic there.  You have been proven wrong even with your own writing and still are calling others wrong.  

ANYWHERE <> "certain first world countries"

I already gave you credit for being the "Technicality King". Also, I am just taking your word on that...I'm convinced I'm able to ship to just about every country in the world, but listing the countries I can't ship to might give you a clue as to the method (not like you'd figure it out anyway though).  I'd be curious to see how often the average person mails anything to any of the countries you say supposedly are not supported. I for one can say that I have never had to mail  ANYTHING to anywhere on the entire continent of Africa, only a handful of countries in South America, and only a couple in the Middle East.

Also lets not be mistaken-you were wrong.

I'm done with this pissing contest. You can continue to ship the way you do and pay the [higher] price you pay. I'll use my method, the one I've been using for years, and save more than you on postage. If anyone else is interested in the way I ship, just send me a PM!

[johnniewalker]

No one who hasn't paid for my guide can describe the shipping method I use.

Of course they can, it is right in the photo of the address label and available from any online shipping outlet, no guide necessary.

I lied, last thing. DeathandTaxes-how about next time you make an international shipment you just post a picture of either the label or receipt? Feel free to blur out any personal info.

[DeathAndTaxes]

[bflmarket5]

No chance for something similar for Canadians?