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March 28, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
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As a matter of facts, I see lots of quality posts here and 2-3% of the posts were merited. Also you should understand that merit is offered by people on their opinions about your opinion.

2-3% ?  you do know that 93.2% of statistics are made up on the spot don't you?

post links to 20 quality un merited quotes then

2-3% of the total posts and what? posts are made on spot, that's how it works, it is a discussion forum, we are posting opinions. NOT ARTICLES.

anyway i don't care about the rank but still

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March 28, 2018, 10:21:28 AM
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As a matter of facts, I see lots of quality posts here and 2-3% of the posts were merited. Also you should understand that merit is offered by people on their opinions about your opinion.

2-3% ?  you do know that 93.2% of statistics are made up on the spot don't you?

post links to 20 quality un merited quotes then

2-3% of the total posts and what? posts are made on spot, that's how it works, it is a discussion forum, we are posting opinions. NOT ARTICLES.

anyway i don't care about the rank but still

you said only 2-3% of merit worthy posts are being merited, so prove it - if not you are just another shitposter spouting crap.

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March 28, 2018, 10:24:12 AM
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Its hard to rank up now, not same before
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March 28, 2018, 10:24:58 AM
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As a matter of facts, I see lots of quality posts here and 2-3% of the posts were merited. Also you should understand that merit is offered by people on their opinions about your opinion.

2-3% ?  you do know that 93.2% of statistics are made up on the spot don't you?

post links to 20 quality un merited quotes then

2-3% of the total posts and what? posts are made on spot, that's how it works, it is a discussion forum, we are posting opinions. NOT ARTICLES.

anyway i don't care about the rank but still

you said only 2-3% of merit worthy posts are being merited, so prove it - if not you are just another shitposter spouting crap.


Tbh, brains are awesome, i strongly recomend to try one time per year at least.

Indeed, I am a shitposter as you are spouting crap all over the universe. I am so happy to see that your replies to me were full of quality with way more seriousity.

Thank you.

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March 28, 2018, 10:27:34 AM
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Tbh, brains are awesome, i strongly recomend to try one time per year at least.

Indeed, I am a shitposter as you are spouting crap all over the universe. I am so happy to see that your replies to me were full of quality with way more seriousity.

Thank you.

great - glad we can agree your posts are pointless. I mean what does seriousity even fucking mean?

liking that you have lots of merits as well, proof the system works fella!

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March 28, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
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Tbh, brains are awesome, i strongly recomend to try one time per year at least.

Indeed, I am a shitposter as you are spouting crap all over the universe. I am so happy to see that your replies to me were full of quality with way more seriousity.

Thank you.

great - glad we can agree your posts are pointless. I mean what does seriousity even fucking mean?

liking that you have lots of merits as well, proof the system works fella!

you just won a merit! congrats!

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March 28, 2018, 02:07:38 PM
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This is what I love about the Internet. Here is a quote from the seriosity web site
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At Seriosity, we’ve spent the last year building a new solution and team to take the science of workplace engagement beyond points, leaderboards, and badges. We’re focused on engagement in onboarding, training, customer service, employee communication, scheduling, compliance assessment and career advancement. And we’ve built our solution to be easily used by workers not connected to complex enterprise systems – the “undesked” in retail, hospitality, logistics, food service and groceries.

Seriosity - Early 16th century; earliest use found in Robert Henryson (d. c1490), poet. From post-classical Latin seriositas from seriosus + classical Latin -tās. Compare Middle French or French † sériosité. ( from the Oxford dictionary)

Don't you just love it when these words from 1490 surface in posts. Bitcoin Talk may be the cutting edge of crypto discussions, but it never forgets the handles.

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This is what I love about the Internet. Here is a quote from the seriosity web site
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At Seriosity, we’ve spent the last year building a new solution and team to take the science of workplace engagement beyond points, leaderboards, and badges. We’re focused on engagement in onboarding, training, customer service, employee communication, scheduling, compliance assessment and career advancement. And we’ve built our solution to be easily used by workers not connected to complex enterprise systems – the “undesked” in retail, hospitality, logistics, food service and groceries.

Seriosity - Early 16th century; earliest use found in Robert Henryson (d. c1490), poet. From post-classical Latin seriositas from seriosus + classical Latin -tās. Compare Middle French or French † sériosité. ( from the Oxford dictionary)

Don't you just love it when these words from 1490 surface in posts. Bitcoin Talk may be the cutting edge of crypto discussions, but it never forgets the handles.


Interesting. I really do think that somehow the system will change. It just can't stay like this.

There should be other ways of finding who is a spammer

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March 28, 2018, 07:31:34 PM
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I do understand why the merit system has been introduced, I really do. There are numerous times i was frustrated at reading some threads with so much shit posts you had to wheed through them. But let's be realistic, a lot of members are also just trying to post quality posts, but not all of us are journalists with the talent of writing article like posts. Some just want to say what's on their mind and be done with it.

Since the merit system was introduced I thought to myself, this is a good system to lower the total of bs posts. That's a good thing. However, I feel that the merit system hasn't been thought out really well. I'm trying to contribute and make some quality posts on here but ranking up to the next rank is almost impossible from my point of view. I'm still jr. member with 98 activity.. The merit system is introduced literally 2 days before I would rank up in the old system. That's been a frustration point for me.

I'd like to participate with a signature campaign (with a clickable link) but due to this merit system it has become a drag to rank up, even to member. Let alone the next rank.

I think it would have been better to introduce the merit system, but also 'earn' merit gradually. Like 1 merit per 2 weeks (activity update) or even 1 per month. This way new users wouldn't have the feeling that it is impossible to rank up. They have 2 options, write excellent quality posts and hoping for someone with enough sMerit and feeling generous to notice their posts or waiting a long time, or just both.

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March 28, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
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you just won a merit! congrats!
You gave him 2 merits, just sayin'.

I don't quite get what you mean when you say there should be a better way to tell who's a spammer.  That's one of the most obvious things to me, and the easiest reason to see why bitcointalk is near unreadable at this point, easier even than discerning who's trying to scam or trade merit points.  As they say, spamming is like pornography--it's hard to define, exactly, but you know it when you see it.  In fact, we've been graciously provided an example, not only in this thread, but on this very page:

Its hard to rank up now, not same before
That's a shitpost, a piece of spam.  Created for who knows what reason; probably it's to gain activity or to get paid in a bounty.  I have not checked this user's signature space, and I have sigs and avatars blocked. 

Also, I probably would've given you a merit here, for the sole reason that you're making coherent arguments in English that's readily understandable.  Unfortunately I just handed out the last of my sMerits.  I owe you one.

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March 28, 2018, 07:50:11 PM
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I think your difficulty may stem from the fact that you appear to spend your time in the alt section, and you have said that you are here to earn from your signature. Many of the more established members want Bitcoin Talk to be an information and help exchange site, and also as a place to relax and talk about cryptos and the emerging economies. Posts from members who are attempting to display their signatures in return for payment, and pay scant regard to the thread topic, or the content of their posts, make it difficult for the more serious members to enjoy the forum. You need to distance yourself from the alts, and pay more attention to Bitcoin in my opinion.

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March 28, 2018, 08:21:02 PM
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The new merit system is a bright idea , and only worthy people who have what it takes to publish qualified posts will level up , and the people who keeps complaining about this merit system have only one excuse: the merit system is holding them back from climing to Higher ranks and they are not getting the merit that they don't desserve.
I have an advice for them make your posts better and you ll get recognized and you ll get rewarded by the merit you deserve, you will also get promoted to Higher positions.
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March 28, 2018, 08:24:53 PM
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you just won a merit! congrats!
You gave him 2 merits, just sayin'.

I don't quite get what you mean when you say there should be a better way to tell who's a spammer.  That's one of the most obvious things to me, and the easiest reason to see why bitcointalk is near unreadable at this point, easier even than discerning who's trying to scam or trade merit points.  As they say, spamming is like pornography--it's hard to define, exactly, but you know it when you see it.  In fact, we've been graciously provided an example, not only in this thread, but on this very page:

Its hard to rank up now, not same before
That's a shitpost, a piece of spam.  Created for who knows what reason; probably it's to gain activity or to get paid in a bounty.  I have not checked this user's signature space, and I have sigs and avatars blocked. 

Also, I probably would've given you a merit here, for the sole reason that you're making coherent arguments in English that's readily understandable.  Unfortunately I just handed out the last of my sMerits.  I owe you one.

Well, I refreshed the page and it gave the second one without my acknowledge.

In any cases, that post is not a shit post. It is a post. The fact that it shouldn't contribuite to your rank is something different.

There are people that speak just like that and simply. It shouldn't count to the rank, but it is still a post. Anyway, it is not my job to say how it can be in a different way counted the spam or the "shitposters", i do not own the forum or getting paid from it, but for sure there are more other ways.

I like somehow the merit idea, it's great, but you can't offer the possibility of ranking up just to some users.

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March 28, 2018, 10:07:17 PM
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I've almost ranked up but yes it's a lot harder now especially for those like me haven't English as 1st language. So is definitely possible, easier for someone and harder for others.
I would like to know if there is a list of people who ranked up.



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March 29, 2018, 02:53:03 AM
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Honestly, most of newbies/ newcomers of the forum joined the forum recently (particularly since the second half of 2017) tend to focus mainly on getting money through signature campaigns, bounties, airdrops.
They simply want to get money, don't spend a couple of seconds (I would like to emphasize, seconds, not minutes or hours) to think about how they can contribute to the forum and help other users. Consequently, they have almost not learned many knowledgeable things about crypto and the forum structures, most interesing, serious boards. I hope that they might change a bit over time, gradually, in order to contribute more.
I think your difficulty may stem from the fact that you appear to spend your time in the alt section, and you have said that you are here to earn from your signature.

Agree! They should limit their times spent on alt child boards, and turn to Meta, Beginner & help, Bitcoin Technical Support, etc. instead (serious and useful boards).
Many of the more established members want Bitcoin Talk to be an information and help exchange site, and also as a place to relax and talk about cryptos and the emerging economies. Posts from members who are attempting to display their signatures in return for payment, and pay scant regard to the thread topic, or the content of their posts, make it difficult for the more serious members to enjoy the forum. You need to distance yourself from the alts, and pay more attention to Bitcoin in my opinion.

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March 29, 2018, 03:21:29 AM
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Please allow links in the signature for members with no merit or remove the merit system or people will go to other forums. This forum driven by a 2006 engine is not going to be the only place to discuss cryptos certainly.
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March 29, 2018, 03:36:08 AM
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Unbelievable! More than 2 months after launching day of merit system, the guy () came here and complained about merit system, asked for removing the system.
I put the one into my Ignore list.

Congratulations! You can keep complaining about merit system.

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March 29, 2018, 03:42:28 AM
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This forum is going to be just like a shareware version for 95% of new users. No signatures, no avatars, no nothing, no fun. I am not gonna rack my brain on how to get merit.

So disrespectful to the newbies.
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March 29, 2018, 04:07:27 AM
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This forum is going to be just like a shareware version for 95% of new users. No signatures, no avatars, no nothing, no fun. I am not gonna rack my brain on how to get merit.

So disrespectful to the newbies.
Yeah, it should be like this due to the terrible fact the it has become landfill area of newcomers who dumped their shits and try getting money from their shitshows.
It should be like this to prevent those ones ranking up and minimize their opportunities to get money from shit-efforts.

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March 29, 2018, 06:26:52 AM
Last edit: March 29, 2018, 07:24:52 AM by iconoclast
 #220

I can understand why the merit system was brought in. Having a system where rank is determined by the number of posts you make will inevitably lead to people making useless posts just to get rank. The merit system has eliminated that to a large degree but it has been replaced by merit farming and is also percieved as being unfair to new members. I think we should consider the current system a deeply flawed improvement on what went on before but something that also needs to be improved to discourage merit farming and make it more fair to newer members.

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