The reality is 99.9% members can never rank up with the new merit system.

[yojodojo21]

The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks  
  

I vote Yes. Nullius the smart Guy is Ready to the membership of Hero rank. This Guy is a Real Quality Poster.
Sad to say, I Myself is Supposed to be a Sr. Member But I accept the fact that without exact merit requirement for senior member "I Will not Rank Up".
The Good : Only Quality posters rank up because they have contributed some information's in this forum so that they  deserves to rank up.
The Bad: Quality contents, are and will be obvious if it is posted in the right section not on shitholes sections.
The Ugly: posting great content captures interest to be read.  why many people are lazy to check those Post that OP said that has a great content. it's because it's not interesting at all or not considered as contribution to the forum.

my thought about this merit system, is fair and square, the people who complains about this merit feature is only those who are after signature campaigns, (not to offend Just being real), and those who enjoy and work with their asses to get merits are the one who has initiative to work and do rather than begging, or complaining about this new feature.

Not to offend anybody Here, just stating my opinion.

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[TheBeardedBaby]

If people are complaining then the system is working.
One way or another this forum is going in the right direction. If there's a rule to filter users without merit from joining any campaign / or remove the campaigns in general/, here will be just the perfect place to learn and develop yourself. Blockchain is the technology of the future

[kewlc3s]

Let be honest.. You are right. Mostly of users will never rank up.

I came to forum, to read and learn about crypto, then I found out, that there is a possibility to earn some crypto by simple tasks, I was shocked, especially about social media bounties. I joined almost 20 bounties in few days, and my rush was during 3-4 months.
After, I slowly finished or quit most bounties. Now just signature and blogs.

Of course is pity that I got really small chance to become hero member someday. Sr. Member I still hope someday 

But let´s just wait and we will see what merits will give to forum. I hope some positive changes will come

[The Sceptical Chymist]

But someone who can't write proper sentences in English won't write anything interesting because 1) the sentence structure will be broken, and 2) they won't have vocabulary sufficient to create an interesting post.  I have seen this hundreds, nay thousands(!) of times.  And in addition, they're usually too lazy to put any effort into what they're doing.  I agree with your sentiment, but I think it'll take some time before the shitposters get discouraged and give up.  But I'm patient.

They don't even make the effort to get the title of their threads readable. And when they are readable it can be even worse.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. "Bitcoin to the moon" off the shoulder of Orion. I watched "Could bitcoin reach 100.000$ ?" glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those threads will be lost in entropy, like tears in rain. Time for merit.

Entropy always wins.  Always.  But yeah, I'm hoping the merit system will be like the sun shining on all of us, providing enough energy to make things in the world of bitcointalk anti-entropic for at least a little while.

As for the titles, it drives me NUTS when I see a thread title in Bitcoin Discussion like "Bitcoin".  That's it, nothing else that would lead you to think that the thread is going to be anything other than a shitposter creating a shitpost-magnet thread for his alt accounts.  I've even reported a few of these for just that reason, but to no avail.  Thread titles should kind of be specific, that's my opinion, but these morons just don't care.  Nor do they have vocabulary enough to come up with anything interesting or creative.

[Jet Cash]

As for the titles, it drives me NUTS when I see a thread title in Bitcoin Discussion like "Bitcoin".  That's it, nothing else that would lead you to think that the thread is going to be anything other than a shitposter creating a shitpost-magnet thread for his alt accounts.  I've even reported a few of these for just that reason, but to no avail.  Thread titles should kind of be specific, that's my opinion, but these morons just don't care.  Nor do they have vocabulary enough to come up with anything interesting or creative.

Actually I find that quite handy. You know that the thread is going to be a load of tosh, so I don't bother to open it.

[MJK_Anfaenger]

I've just got one little niggle with the new system. I personally spend my smerit very conservatively, as I don't have much to give. So even if I see a post that I think deserves merit, more often than not I don't merit it, cause in the back of my mind I'm thinking "what if I run into an even better post and I don't have any left?". Or if I post a question and someone delivers a helpful answer, but I've already spent it all on something else. I don't know for sure, but I assume that the majority of users here are rather low-ranking? So maybe I'm not the only one feeling this way.

[cabalism13]

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

Well that's the real purpose of this system, to minimize those spammers and shitposters.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

Yeah, that maybe bad but still no need to rush on things right? Even if you reach a 2 or 3 months here just to rank up, so what's the problem? as long as you're enjoying your stay here then nothing to be worried about the rankings.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

As I have said, no need to rush on things, becauae there maybe quite some people who rarely does that but if you have a confidence on your work and as long as it hasn't been deleted then you still have your chance to earn that points.

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks  

If you're/they're just here just to earn then I think finding a job in the reality would be better because in here you need patience before you earn. We have to be careful for what we're saying because a lot of people here are so sensitive and it maybe become the reason why you'll even get a bad feedback.

[gawer33]

even I know my posting skill is incompetent right now to get a merit. I still I believe everyone can rank up if I became knowledgeable enough I know from experience I can share/ help everyone. just keep reading and if you know a lot you can help alot.

[coloseum]

99.9% of spammers, account farmers can not rank up due to merit system and new rank requirements, not 99.9% of users in the forum.
That is why Theymos launch merit system. I love the system because of its magic impacts on forum future.

Spammers will get stucked, constructive users will rank up. Eventually, merit system will control spammers, reduce them over time. With the merit system, spammers seem to be wippen out of the forum because they will feel extremely hard to fight against new ranking requirements.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I've just got one little niggle with the new system. I personally spend my smerit very conservatively, as I don't have much to give. So even if I see a post that I think deserves merit, more often than not I don't merit it, cause in the back of my mind I'm thinking "what if I run into an even better post and I don't have any left?". Or if I post a question and someone delivers a helpful answer, but I've already spent it all on something else. I don't know for sure, but I assume that the majority of users here are rather low-ranking? So maybe I'm not the only one feeling this way.

I only had 4 sMerits to give, and I gave one to you because your post was pretty well written.  That's a huge factor in whether I'll give merit to a post.

As to what you wrote: I'd suggest just giving merit out fairly freely, even if you're going to be running out of sMerits, because you can always earn more, and someone else might merit the post that you end up not having enough for.  Don't let that stress you out.  Hundreds of good posts go unmerited daily and the world keeps spinning.

[MJK_Anfaenger]

I only had 4 sMerits to give, and I gave one to you because your post was pretty well written

Thank you, I appreciate it and I appreciate your feedback. Perhaps I'm overthinking things. If a legendary account's smerit can drop to almost zero, so can I. Cheers!

[hurry_hore]

The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks  
  

I think most of members are not giving merit because they do not know personally the poster even the posting is giving benefit to them and deserve a quality post. So rank up will be easier if post a good thing (I do not believe this quality classification because it is not objective) and know other members well. If a people do not know anyone in this forum, even he posts a top high class of quality posting then no merit will be given to that poster.

[Kim Ji Won]

99.9% of spammers,

That statistics tho. 
Well, it's good that they will never rank up with the merit system and if all campaign managers out there will also be strict in the merit requirement for participants in the signature campaign and not just accept all shitposters, this may well result in another chaos in the Meta but the good side of this is that they will be forced to up their posting quality a notch.

[dx_twisted]

Not really. The merit system does the job well by eliminating those who post solely to rank up (ie. account farmers) and those who post solely for signature campaigns. If you were to post quality content or content with sufficient value, then it would probably be merited. Merits doesn't have a use except to give them away so theres no use for us to keep them anyways, just spend it.

It was way too easy to rank up to encourage spam. If anything, merit system shouldn't go, no matter what. Obviously, if you were to post in a topic with thousands of replies, then the possibility of you being merited is low since your point has likely been echoed hundreds of times. Post constructively and I'm sure its not that hard to rank up.

I've been telling these to all of the forum members whom I personally know and keeps complaining about this merit system. No matter how hard it is to gain them, there is a way to obtain those rewards.

This site was been polluted by threads in the past who were basic (common) and keeps asking the same question where the answer is pretty obvious and already given. With the merit implementation, it was already been reduced by half.

Point is, forget about merits, stop ranting (to those who keeps complaining) as there's no way that the admins will remove it, just cope with the rule and create quality post with unique content.

[zaq130]

Not really. The merit system does the job well by eliminating those who post solely to rank up (ie. account farmers) and those who post solely for signature campaigns. If you were to post quality content or content with sufficient value, then it would probably be merited. Merits doesn't have a use except to give them away so theres no use for us to keep them anyways, just spend it.

It was way too easy to rank up to encourage spam. If anything, merit system shouldn't go, no matter what. Obviously, if you were to post in a topic with thousands of replies, then the possibility of you being merited is low since your point has likely been echoed hundreds of times. Post constructively and I'm sure its not that hard to rank up.

I've been telling these to all of the forum members whom I personally know and keeps complaining about this merit system. No matter how hard it is to gain them, there is a way to obtain those rewards.

This site was been polluted by threads in the past who were basic (common) and keeps asking the same question where the answer is pretty obvious and already given. With the merit implementation, it was already been reduced by half.

Point is, forget about merits, stop ranting (to those who keeps complaining) as there's no way that the admins will remove it, just cope with the rule and create quality post with unique content.

That is the opinion from a thread with many members.
In Japanese thread, there is no merit source, thus no one can get merit.

Of course, some of them can try to earn merit by writing in English, however many Japanese are not good in English and never write something in English.

I can agree with your opinion but for a local thread, we need a way to earn merit, without that many people are stop using this forum, especially those who only uses their own language. This forum is losing a diversity by merit system.

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That is why there is a need of universal way to earn Merit other than based on English specific posting quality.

[DdmrDdmr]

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

Farming acounts aside, that is what it should be.

Quality does have different meanings depending on user perspective though. For some it's technical, for others funny, some see it as informational, other as a throrough splilling of opinion, and so on.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

That is true. It depends also on when you post,  where you post, the length of the thread, the language, etc. It's correlated also to where meriters are likely to be reading and what amount they have. Some local boards are scarce of merit givers and of the total amount they hold.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

I don´t see this being a general thing. What is true is that many people have low amounts of sMerit to give away and therefore, psychologically, take longer to give it away being it a scarce resouce.
Maybe sMerit should expire after a certain time as for example happens with loyalty points (or get transfered to a merit source so as not to lessen the circulating total amount).
 

It would be nice to have some global stats on number of users per rank that have managed to rank-up, broken down by the amount of time required, number of posts, sections involved, language, etc.

[NavI_027]

Despite of seeing lots of NOs in the poll you started, I'm not discouraged at all because I do believe that merit system intend to help us and improve the forum not to harm us. I know that almost all of us seems impossible to rank up but don't lose hope because someone does (I saw lately). If that someone could be able to rank up then for sure it's not impossible for us to do the same. Instead of complaining, let's just continue our good posting habits and be patiently waiting for the blessing that will come to us.

[tuanytcc]

Despite of seeing lots of NOs in the poll you started, I'm not discouraged at all because I do believe that merit system intend to help us and improve the forum not to harm us.

Nice words. Eventually, merit system will help the forum to control and probably stop the spamming endemic, which come from spammers, account farmers (which has changed to merit farmers), shitty posters, one-line posters.
Merit system and its mechanism help us (admin, moderators, merit-sourced users, and normal users) find account-farmers more easily. Next step is to apply forum rules (should be stricter) to ban them, and wipe them out.

[Tynovten_]

Until right now some people are still holding their sMERIT, i don't know what concern they have that they're holding it. And some comments are not seeing by the quality any longer. Say if you make thread and get amazing comments, why you don't give MERIT to them. And i think if the moderator give us MERIT if us have quality in our posts.