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January 28, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
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The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are Smiley ) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

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January 28, 2018, 09:27:24 AM
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The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are Smiley ) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

No prisons and no censorship..do you think it is right laws? Will it be anarchy? People have to be governed, otherwise there will be arbitrariness.
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January 28, 2018, 09:41:40 AM
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No prisons and no censorship..do you think it is right laws? Will it be anarchy? People have to be governed, otherwise there will be arbitrariness.

No, not anarchy. There must be both a government and a court. But, for example, prisons can be replaced by deprivation of citizenship and expulsion from the country. And the system of penalties (if there is real damage).

I repeat the idea: to gather in the New State only sane people. The rest let them live where they live.

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January 28, 2018, 09:51:17 AM
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If I have to create my own state, I will make a lot of fair laws.
1. No to feminism
    - a lot of females are using the power of feminism, and its now favorable for us male.
2. No to same sex marriage
    - no one is allowed to change gender. Be contented on God's gift.
3. No to judicial exemption
    - all politicians are not excuse.

Hmmm...

1. I agree. Rights should not depend on sex. Although from the point of view of biology, females are more important for the population than males. Because they give offspring.

2. I agree. Marriage is a religious concept. At the level of the law, fundamentally new forms of legalization of relations are needed.

3. I agree. But lawsuits should not be used as a means of political pressure.

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January 28, 2018, 12:50:22 PM
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No, not anarchy. There must be both a government and a court. But, for example, prisons can be replaced by deprivation of citizenship and expulsion from the country. And the system of penalties (if there is real damage).

I repeat the idea: to gather in the New State only sane people. The rest let them live where they live.

You are talking about smth utopian. How will you divide people to worthy and unworthy ones? Grin
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January 28, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
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The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are Smiley ) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

I think you're being a bit too idealist sweetie. That we still have a lot of problems mean we still haven't found the "right" laws, or else we'd be living in a perfect society.

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.
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January 28, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
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The most right laws are those that don't change and don't correspond for a president / leader of the country all the time.
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January 29, 2018, 05:21:32 AM
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The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are Smiley ) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?
No I can not create I don't have any power to create my own state I have my leaders to follow and rules and regulations to follow as s citizen of my state
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January 29, 2018, 06:15:37 AM
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Hmmm..  No prison , no law without punishment...

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January 29, 2018, 06:20:44 AM
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   This is great idea, but it is utopia. Best representatives of the human race dont need police, censorship or any other limits surely, but who they are? How will you find them among all of us? People may pretend to be anyone to get scores they need.
   Besides which authorities or state let people to create such country, what is their interest? People in power are not best but strong and smart representatives of the human race, and they wish to keep their power forewer

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January 29, 2018, 06:31:48 AM
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I have my leaders to follow and rules and regulations to follow as s citizen of my state
Government officials are not the God and must have the same rights with you!

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.
Restitution model that really worked in Icelandic Commonwealth is much more effective and humane than prisons.
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January 29, 2018, 08:45:01 AM
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You are talking about smth utopian. How will you divide people to worthy and unworthy ones? Grin

Not a "worthy" but the "sane".

1. IQ above 110
2. Do not use drugs (including cigarettes and alcohol) systematically.
3. Does not lend itself to propaganda by "fakenews".
4. Loves cats (-:
5. Is creative.
6. Can communicate and negotiate with others.
7. Something else.

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January 29, 2018, 08:48:22 AM
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...Separate the "sane" from "insane" will be together, on the basis of consensus. Blokchain (-:

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January 29, 2018, 08:54:34 AM
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I think you're being a bit too idealist sweetie. That we still have a lot of problems mean we still haven't found the "right" laws, or else we'd be living in a perfect society.

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.

So the fact is, that in our country will not be all who are insane, as it usually is. But those who pass certain filters. In other words: reasonable people CAN build a reasonable society.
 

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January 29, 2018, 08:59:46 AM
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Hmmm..  No prison , no law without punishment...

I completely agree. But it is prisons that are not an indispensable attribute of punishment. For small faults - public repentance and compensation for damage. If a person is openly anti-social - deportation. For terrible crimes - death. It is quite possible to do without prisons.

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January 29, 2018, 09:07:57 AM
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No I can not create I don't have any power to create my own state I have my leaders to follow and rules and regulations to follow as s citizen of my state

All right. Each of us has not enough strength to do this one by herself. For this, we need a blokchain and the Kittycoin project (-:

I'm looking for like-minded people around the world. I have long wanted to do this. But there were no tools. But recently I learned about the blockchain, and I realized that this is it.

We can make a direct e-democracy without falsification. And much more.

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January 29, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
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  This is great idea, but it is utopia. Best representatives of the human race dont need police, censorship or any other limits surely, but who they are? How will you find them among all of us? People may pretend to be anyone to get scores they need.
   Besides which authorities or state let people to create such country, what is their interest? People in power are not best but strong and smart representatives of the human race, and they wish to keep their power forewer

Yes, it sounds very reasonable, thank you.

Separating the "grain from the chaff" (-: we initially will not do it at all - just a simple desire to participate in this is a good indicator in itself. In addition, desire is an indispensable condition, without it - in any way.

Then, as the community grows, we will jointly develop some simple tests. This all is solved. Many of us are programmers. We are used to solving similar tasks while writing programs. The main thing is to find the basic consensus among themselves. Basic unshakable principles.

And about other governments ... we'll just buy them. Why invent something? They are all corrupt. We will give them a little money - they will give us a piece of land under the state. We can do this, for example, in Haiti. Haiti is a completely poor country, there it will not be very expensive.

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January 29, 2018, 09:31:21 AM
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No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.
Restitution model that really worked in Icelandic Commonwealth is much more effective and humane than prisons.

Thank you for understanding! Indeed, there are many other opportunities besides prisons. Prisons are a barbaric remnant of the past.

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January 29, 2018, 04:03:12 PM
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Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.)

No prisons? So all the murderers, rapists, robbers etc. will be on freedom? Smiley
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January 29, 2018, 07:52:07 PM
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The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are Smiley ) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?
The latest people who tried creating their own country are currently on a self imposed exile and seceding from a country takes a lot of money and most of the time it is very violent, sometimes war are fought in order to achieve it and i simply think that it is simply not worth it.
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