cloon (OP)
|
|
July 14, 2011, 07:42:21 AM |
|
It'll be great, if everyone uses after this poll the same symbol.
Think of usability!
This is not the Poll about the international code BTC ony about the sign like $ but for bitcoin If you got another symbol writ and i'll put it in the poll.
|
donations to 13zWUMSHA7AzGjqWmJNhJLYZxHmjNPKduY
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
July 14, 2011, 07:46:17 AM |
|
And with one poll, one thread from a year ago http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=41.0 , has became two. For your next trick, pull a rabbit out of your ass. This is the only winner But ฿ is second. Note: The first and last options are no characters at all. Bottom shows up as just a square. Top one starts off with a B but ends with a square character.
|
|
|
|
cloon (OP)
|
|
July 14, 2011, 08:16:43 AM |
|
ok yours is the winner write it with normal keyboard!^^
|
donations to 13zWUMSHA7AzGjqWmJNhJLYZxHmjNPKduY
|
|
|
julz
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
|
|
July 14, 2011, 08:19:13 AM |
|
I vote: forget about the glyph for now.
Use a sexy .png something like the image above, or the letters BTC.
Go for a proper unicode character once the bitcoin economy has some serious scale to it.
|
@electricwings BM-GtyD5exuDJ2kvEbr41XchkC8x9hPxdFd
|
|
|
wareen
Millionaire
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 910
Merit: 1001
Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data
|
|
July 14, 2011, 08:24:18 AM |
|
I vote: forget about the glyph for now.
Use a sexy .png something like the image above, or the letters BTC.
Go for a proper unicode character once the bitcoin economy has some serious scale to it.
+1 The #-B is a great idea - I've tried to scale it down in the other thread. Not sure if it works though. Getting it into a Unicode revision will take a while, so I suggest we decide on a new symbol and propose it soon.
|
|
|
|
marcus_of_augustus
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2348
Eadem mutata resurgo
|
|
July 14, 2011, 09:18:13 AM |
|
#B
or
#B
either way
|
|
|
|
Pentium100
|
|
July 14, 2011, 09:40:08 AM |
|
Why does it have to be a symbol, like $?
Why can't it be a letter combination (so you can type/print it on any computer, cell phone, typewriter), for example, Bc or Bt?
|
1GStzEi48CnQN6DgR1s3uAzB8ucuwdcvig
|
|
|
wareen
Millionaire
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 910
Merit: 1001
Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data
|
|
July 14, 2011, 09:43:34 AM |
|
Why can't it be a letter combination
We already have a de-facto standard Bitcoin currency code: BTC This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies.
|
|
|
|
|
BitVapes
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
BitVapes.com
|
|
July 14, 2011, 10:18:19 AM |
|
None of the above. (Or possibly the last option, which for me just shows as a square). My favourite can be seen here: http://ilovebitcoin.comIndeed the one that shows up as 'just a square' for you is the one featured on the link you shared. Ƀ also like it, and would use it on my bitcoin web store if it rendered properly in all browsers. As you demonstrated, it often does not. Therefore for now I use BTC and ฿
|
|
|
|
Alex Beckenham
|
|
July 14, 2011, 10:37:28 AM |
|
None of the above. (Or possibly the last option, which for me just shows as a square). My favourite can be seen here: http://ilovebitcoin.comIndeed the one that shows up as 'just a square' for you is the one featured on the link you shared. Ƀ Cool thanks, in that case I'll put in my vote for the square
|
|
|
|
cloon (OP)
|
|
July 14, 2011, 11:31:09 AM |
|
We see: ฿ is the favorite but it is already in ust by thailand does someone know, if its "allowed" to use?
If not, there will be Ƀ the next favorite
|
donations to 13zWUMSHA7AzGjqWmJNhJLYZxHmjNPKduY
|
|
|
brandon@sourcewerks
Member
Offline
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
|
|
July 14, 2011, 12:17:29 PM |
|
BTC - ฿
As a developer, I like the symbol above. --voted
|
|
|
|
kloinko1n
|
|
July 14, 2011, 01:44:45 PM |
|
I find the list unnecessarily limited to capitals. Capital 'B' stands for Byte, not bit, so for the bitcoin I propose the ␢ (I just hope it won't show as a square) (description: minor 'b'with a horizontal line through the stem. Edit: well, not quite totally horizontal...
|
|
|
|
dacoinminster
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1031
Rational Exuberance
|
|
July 14, 2011, 02:40:36 PM |
|
Can you add an option for "none of the above"? Here is what I think it should look like:
|
|
|
|
|
XIU
|
|
July 14, 2011, 03:48:47 PM |
|
We see: ฿ is the favorite but it is already in ust by thailand does someone know, if its "allowed" to use?
If not, there will be Ƀ the next favorite
And the $ is used only in the USA...
|
|
|
|
TheBitMan
|
|
July 14, 2011, 03:55:35 PM |
|
We see: ฿ is the favorite but it is already in ust by thailand does someone know, if its "allowed" to use?
If not, there will be Ƀ the next favorite
And the $ is used only in the USA... I am use to the $ here in America, but I think the B with the line through it doesn't look to good I go with Ƀ 1.5Ƀ looks pretty cool
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
July 14, 2011, 04:28:34 PM |
|
hahaha, I just seen the results, why is this a poll again?
Majority has ruled on this one long ago, and has ruled again.
I expect the topic to come back up in a month.
|
|
|
|
TheBitMan
|
|
July 14, 2011, 05:16:56 PM |
|
Have we decided if the symbol goes before the number or after?
(I'll just use B as the symbol) Do we write B7.12 or 7.12B? Or do we write B7,12 ?
Most currency's say $ amount.. or (Euro symbol) amount.. but it would be pronounced dollars 15 which no one says here...In the US as I know of. But Bitcoin..being the new amazing currency it is should be pronounced 7.12B and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal?
|
|
|
|
Leon
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
|
|
July 14, 2011, 05:41:12 PM |
|
Pointless poll really. Voted for the obvious.
|
|
|
|
PCRon
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
|
|
July 14, 2011, 06:19:58 PM |
|
Have we decided if the symbol goes before the number or after?
(I'll just use B as the symbol) Do we write B7.12 or 7.12B? Or do we write B7,12 ?
Most currency's say $ amount.. or (Euro symbol) amount.. but it would be pronounced dollars 15 which no one says here...In the US as I know of. But Bitcoin..being the new amazing currency it is should be pronounced 7.12B and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal? what ever happened to registering with the (I assume I will get this wrong) International Symbols Org?
|
|
|
|
qwk
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3542
Merit: 3411
Shitcoin Minimalist
|
|
July 14, 2011, 06:26:32 PM |
|
The bitcoin WITCH symbol:
|
Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
July 14, 2011, 08:10:04 PM |
|
qwk has visualized what I have been thinking, but then thinking I was crazy too as "Which" is spelled correctly in OP
|
|
|
|
Phinnaeus Gage
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
|
|
July 14, 2011, 08:49:12 PM |
|
Looks like my idea didn't make the cut:
|
|
|
|
Phinnaeus Gage
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
|
|
July 14, 2011, 08:52:13 PM |
|
The bitcoin WITCH symbol: Am I the only one who noticed that the end of the witch's broom looks like a flying squirrel?
|
|
|
|
skull88
|
|
July 14, 2011, 11:41:35 PM |
|
and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal? Because we use a decimal to separate sequences of three digit to make them better readable. And we don't use a comma for that because the decimal was already in use for making roman numerals better readable, so when we switched to Arabic numerals the most logic thing to make them better readable was doing the same like with the roman numerals, put a decimal between them. And if the decimal is already in use to make your numbers better readable, than you use a comma. ontopic: ฿, because the B symbol with 2 vertical lines is already adopted by the biggest part of the community as the bitcoin symbol. For fonts 2 vertical lines makes it unreadable, so 1 line is the way to go. And yes it is already used for thai baht, just like the $ sign is also used for more than one currency.
|
BTC: 1MifMqtqqwMMAbb6zr8u6qEzWqq3CQeGUr LTC: LhvMYEngkKS2B8FAcbnzHb2dvW8n9eHkdp
|
|
|
Alex Beckenham
|
|
July 15, 2011, 12:03:40 AM |
|
and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal? Because we use a decimal to separate sequences of three digit to make them better readable. And we don't use a comma for that because the decimal was already in use for making roman numerals better readable, so when we switched to Arabic numerals the most logic thing to make them better readable was doing the same like with the roman numerals, put a decimal between them. And if the decimal is already in use to make your numbers better readable, than you use a comma. So your sig talks about winning 100.000 BTC. I'd very much like to win a hundred thousand bitcoins.
|
|
|
|
OgNasty
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4732
Merit: 4239
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
|
July 15, 2011, 01:57:27 AM |
|
So your sig talks about winning 100.000 BTC. I'd very much like to win a hundred thousand bitcoins.
Click the link then... Thanks for putting up a poll. It was hard to tell that this symbol is overwhelmingly preferred from the other post. Just think if you only allowed 1 vote...
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
Pentium100
|
|
July 15, 2011, 05:43:30 AM |
|
Why can't it be a letter combination
We already have a de-facto standard Bitcoin currency code: BTC This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies. In Lithuania (where I live) the currency has no nonstandard symbol. Litas is written as Lt (instead of the standard LTL) and centas is written as ct. 100ct = 1Lt. In Russia the ruble is written as pyб. and the kopek (0.01rub.) as к. or кoп. , which is Cyrillic. Latvian Lats is Ls. Actually, there seems to be quite a few currencies that are written in the alphabet of the country that uses them.
|
1GStzEi48CnQN6DgR1s3uAzB8ucuwdcvig
|
|
|
Phinnaeus Gage
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
|
|
July 15, 2011, 06:36:41 AM |
|
Why can't it be a letter combination
We already have a de-facto standard Bitcoin currency code: BTC This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies. In Lithuania (where I live) the currency has no nonstandard symbol. Litas is written as Lt (instead of the standard LTL) and centas is written as ct. 100ct = 1Lt. In Russia the ruble is written as pyб. and the kopek (0.01rub.) as к. or кoп. , which is Cyrillic. Latvian Lats is Ls. Actually, there seems to be quite a few currencies that are written in the alphabet of the country that uses them. My dad was born in Lithuania, and I was born in Chicago. Any chance we are related? We seem to think alike. We're on the same forum and both of us have commented on this tread. It really would be weird if you enjoy eating kugelis like I do.
|
|
|
|
julz
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
|
|
July 15, 2011, 07:12:35 AM |
|
Thanks for putting up a poll. It was hard to tell that this symbol is overwhelmingly preferred from the other post. Just think if you only allowed 1 vote...
I don't think this poll gives validity to 'overwhelmingly preferred' either. For starters - it would make more sense to give an indication of what the existing symbols are currently used for. Would ฿ get quite as many votes if it was mentioned alongside that this is already the symbol for the Thai Baht? What is the rationale for the options given? There are clearly others such as ƀ (not that I'd vote for that either) A proper poll wouldn't be conducted in this forum anyway I guess.. as bitcoinporn mentioned.. it'll probably just crop up again here in a mashed around form. These polls are damaging in my opinion because they are so 1 dimensional. It focuses on what looks good/familiar, without adequate consideration of the long term possibility of getting a genuinely unique-to-bitcoin glyph into the standards. A difficult feat for sure - but better for bitcoin I reckon. Boycott all existing glyphs for now and just use BTC until we get our own!
|
@electricwings BM-GtyD5exuDJ2kvEbr41XchkC8x9hPxdFd
|
|
|
wareen
Millionaire
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 910
Merit: 1001
Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data
|
|
July 15, 2011, 07:46:35 AM |
|
Boycott all existing glyphs for now and just use BTC until we get our own!
+1 I don't agree that polls about currency symbols in this forum are necessarily damaging though - there are however two distinct groups and I think that should be clearly pointed out: the one that wants a symbol they can type right now (which this poll seems to be about) and the one that favors a more long-term solution with a novel and unique glyph. I'm personally in the second group because I don't see the big disadvantage of using "BTC" or an image in the meantime until we make it into the Unicode standard - I'm more interested in the long-term viability of Bitcoin and just recycling a symbol which is already in use will always be a poor compromise in my opinion. With the #-B variants we already have proposals for really compelling glyphs (in terms of appearance as well as inherent representation of Bitcoins foundations). I'm working on a font representation of the glyph right now which can hopefully serve as a starting point for further discussion and finally a well structured poll for a long-term new symbol. I don't condemn anyone wanting to use an existing symbol right now and the Baht symbol seems to be the consensus among this group (as the result of this and the previous poll seen to agree). We certainly can do much better in the long term though.
|
|
|
|
julz
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
|
|
July 15, 2011, 08:02:02 AM |
|
I don't agree that polls about currency symbols in this forum are necessarily damaging though -
I guess 'damaging' is a bit of a strong word - but I think it helps entrench the shallow 'oh that looks good enough' choice. Using an existing glyph out there on websites does the same I guess. ..I don't see the big disadvantage of using "BTC" or an image in the meantime until we make it into the Unicode standard - I'm more interested in the long-term viability of Bitcoin and just recycling a symbol which is already in use will always be a poor compromise in my opinion.
Agreed. With the #-B variants we already have proposals for really compelling glyphs (in terms of appearance as well as inherent representation of Bitcoins foundations). I'm working on a font representation of the glyph right now which can hopefully serve as a starting point for further discussion and finally a well structured poll for a long-term new symbol.
Nice. It's easy to throw up a poll with existing glyphs.. but creating good looking fonts is tricky I believe. I'd like to see what the community can come up with that is unique to bitcoin - and then it might be good to have a sticky poll.
|
@electricwings BM-GtyD5exuDJ2kvEbr41XchkC8x9hPxdFd
|
|
|
D.H.
|
|
July 15, 2011, 08:35:57 AM |
|
This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies.
Certainly not for all. A lot of currencies have "symbols" that are multiple characters. http://www.xe.com/symbols.php. It is also worth noting that for example in Sweden "kr" is listed as the "symbol" for swedish krona when it is really just an abbreviation of "krona", not a "symbol". When I log in to my bank online, amounts are simply listed without a symbol (e.g. 14515.45). So that's another option, don't bother with a symbol at all. Use the currency code (BTC) when it is necessary to avoid confusion. In Switzerland, CHF is used as both the symbol and the currency code by the way.
|
www.bitcoin.se - Forum, nyheter och information på svenska! (Forum, news and information in Swedish)
|
|
|
wareen
Millionaire
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 910
Merit: 1001
Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data
|
|
July 15, 2011, 08:58:01 AM |
|
Certainly not for all. A lot of currencies have "symbols" that are multiple characters.
Thanks for pointing that out - I realized that myself upon some further research. So that's another option, don't bother with a symbol at all.
I think we should have a symbol in the long-term because... we can Settling for BTC in the meantime is probably the best solution for now.
|
|
|
|
Jessynoo
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
|
|
July 15, 2011, 10:48:56 AM Last edit: July 15, 2011, 11:35:11 AM by Jessynoo |
|
Just adding a couple more Unicode candidates:
ⓑ ⒝ ℬ ੳ ᴯ ᴃ Ɓ Ƅ ൫ ദ ഭ
|
|
|
|
BitVapes
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
BitVapes.com
|
|
July 15, 2011, 11:29:50 AM |
|
ੳ lol what is ੳ it looks like a Mexican jumping bean
|
|
|
|
|
XIU
|
|
July 15, 2011, 03:08:43 PM |
|
൫ is pretty cool yeah
|
|
|
|
Pentium100
|
|
July 16, 2011, 01:09:19 AM |
|
My dad was born in Lithuania, and I was born in Chicago. Any chance we are related? We seem to think alike. We're on the same forum and both of us have commented on this tread. It really would be weird if you enjoy eating kugelis like I do.
I doubt that we are related, though I do like kugelis (especially the sides/edged).
|
1GStzEi48CnQN6DgR1s3uAzB8ucuwdcvig
|
|
|
Xephan
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
|
|
July 16, 2011, 06:13:26 AM |
|
We see: ฿ is the favorite but it is already in ust by thailand does someone know, if its "allowed" to use?
If not, there will be Ƀ the next favorite
And the $ is used only in the USA... The general dollar sign $ is used in so many common situations and countries that people dealing with international transactions would by habit verify which currency is it referring to. However, using a symbol currently only used by a specific currency would create a potential for errors if not outright frauds. Just imagine if you had a contract for ฿100.00 thinking it was 100 bitcoin but the other person pays you 100 baht instead.
|
|
|
|
julz
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
|
|
July 16, 2011, 06:25:55 AM |
|
We see: ฿ is the favorite but it is already in ust by thailand does someone know, if its "allowed" to use?
If not, there will be Ƀ the next favorite
And the $ is used only in the USA... The general dollar sign $ is used in so many common situations and countries that people dealing with international transactions would by habit verify which currency is it referring to. However, using a symbol currently only used by a specific currency would create a potential for errors if not outright frauds. Just imagine if you had a contract for ฿100.00 thinking it was 100 bitcoin but the other person pays you 100 baht instead. +1 That's a good point. This is yet another case of the bitcoin community being it's own worst enemy. A complete disregard for standards and existing systems is not going to give bitcoin plausability with merchants. We need integration with other economies. While I see much potential for bitcoin, and believe it may ultimately become a widespread and useful system - It's by no means obvious that the timeframe for that is necessarily short. What if it's 50+ years before it 'takes off'? The way the general public and business perceive bitcoins could well keep it on a hobby scale for decades, even though the underlying technology and potential are fantastic.
|
@electricwings BM-GtyD5exuDJ2kvEbr41XchkC8x9hPxdFd
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 11:43:38 AM |
|
Just imagine if you had a contract for ฿100.00 thinking it was 100 bitcoin but the other person pays you 100 baht instead.
Agree! Also, I don't think this will help Bitcoin adoption in Thailand which is something I am working on. Thailand already has a law against community currencies. As far as I know this law hasn't been used against Bitcoin yet, but this is something that may change if "patriots" there get annoyed. Please don't.
|
|
|
|
Gabi
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1008
If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
|
|
October 20, 2011, 12:06:55 PM |
|
Good luck for thailand to attack bitcoin
|
|
|
|
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
|
|
October 20, 2011, 12:09:19 PM |
|
I don't think this is currently being used.
|
Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 12:26:50 PM Last edit: October 20, 2011, 02:44:24 PM by anu |
|
Good luck for thailand to attack bitcoin This is besides the point. Of course there is no way the Thai govt can reach 99% on this forum. My point is that things might become difficult for Thai bitcoin adopters.
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 20, 2011, 02:25:50 PM |
|
I still feel it could be argued strongly that there will be more people actively using the symbol to represent Bitcoin than the Thai money. Also from /r/Bitcoin [–]Shuai 6 points 1 hour ago uhm. $ is used for more than one currency as well.
Basically, it is not big deal, except to the people who are making it out to be a big deal in 'what if' land
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 02:55:16 PM |
|
I still feel it could be argued strongly that there will be more people actively using the symbol to represent Bitcoin than the Thai money.
there are 70 Million users of Thai Baht. I think Bitcoin has a long way to go to get there. What's the reason is not in the list? Can't be an issue to make a font file containing this symbol, can it? No need to hijack an existing one! I vote for restating the vote and include this symbol.
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 20, 2011, 06:57:07 PM |
|
there are 70 Million users of Thai Baht.
Where did you pull that number from? Or you assume all Thai people use or care for their currency symbol. I wish the US dollar symbol would get hijacked and used for something better by some other land, shake things up a bit. An issue with creating a new symbol is the installing it to new systems. There is still a couple of the symbols used in the original post that do not show up on my computer, just a blank square.
|
|
|
|
Gabi
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1008
If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
|
|
October 20, 2011, 07:06:55 PM |
|
I still feel it could be argued strongly that there will be more people actively using the symbol to represent Bitcoin than the Thai money.
there are 70 Million users of Thai Baht. I think Bitcoin has a long way to go to get there. What's the reason is not in the list? Can't be an issue to make a font file containing this symbol, can it? No need to hijack an existing one! I vote for restating the vote and include this symbol. We need a symbol that exist in the unicode, something that don't require people to install additional fonts...
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 07:21:13 PM |
|
We need a symbol that exist in the unicode, something that don't require people to install additional fonts...
Short term convenience is reason enough to try and hijack one? I remember people hat no issue with installing fonts that only had a € symbol. At some point I guess someone in the EU administration used a process the Unicode consortium provides to apply for the symbol. Maybe we could use the same process which is outlined here: http://www.unicode.org/pending/proposals.htmlI am sure if the tech laggards in the EU admin could do that, we can, too. In the meantime, providing a font file for download will be sufficient.
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 20, 2011, 07:54:10 PM |
|
In the meantime, providing a font file for download will be sufficient.
lol, sure. The public has spoken on this subject quite a few times already, it is funny to see the people who feel so strongly about not sharing a symbol. No matter what the Thai can now say they are part of Bitcoin history
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 07:56:43 PM |
|
Basically, it is not big deal, except to the people who are making it out to be a big deal in 'what if' land
Doing what-if is what we call being intelligent. Most invertebrates don't do that - they only respond to immediate stimuli. And WHAT IF this is being used by the Bitcoin haters to show that we just behave like the immoral scum they believe we are? You are right, if no one makes a big deal out of it, it won't be. But the press and other people with agendas are known to make a big deal out of even real non-issues. No idea if it makes sense to talk to you about the right of people not to get trampled all over them - which is just what hijacking the Baht symbol is. Maybe you just give a shit. People in the 3rd world have been kicked in their faces many hundred years. One more kick can't hurt, can it? As Gabi said - there is probably nothing the Thai government can do about it. The OpenSource community has been known to give, not to take from others just because they can't defend themselves. Another what if: What if Bitcoin had been named ExabyteCoin? Would you have the guts to use €? Because this is exactly the same size of deal! Boycott all existing glyphs for now and just use BTC until we get our own!
+1
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 20, 2011, 08:00:43 PM |
|
Another what if: What if Bitcoin had been named ExabyteCoin? Would you have the guts to use €? Of course not, that is a symbol people care about, don't you get it
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 08:48:03 PM |
|
there are 70 Million users of Thai Baht.
Where did you pull that number from? 70 Million inhabitants. If you choose to subtract children, you also need to add user of Thai Baht in the bordering countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_bahthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_ThailandOr you assume all Thai people use or care for their currency symbol.
Most people wouldn't care. Most are currently busy with unstable politics and the flood desaster. Reason enough to steal from them? Just like ore companies from China stealing rate earths and stuff from the Africans because they don't know better? An issue with creating a new symbol is the installing it to new systems. There is still a couple of the symbols used in the original post that do not show up on my computer, just a blank square.
Again: Is this a good enough reason to steal it? They designed it, they registered it with the Unicode Consortium. It's theirs. What you, Gabi and a few others display here is pure chauvinism.
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 20, 2011, 08:53:45 PM |
|
a few others display here is pure chauvinism.
'few' I am sorry you see sharing as stealing, and also really sorry the vocal minority must be so angry
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 08:56:12 PM |
|
'few' I am sorry you see sharing as stealing, and also really sorry the vocal minority must be so angry You don't mind if I share your car and your wallet, do you? Sometimes sharing adds. Not in this case. I am not angry, I am worried and disappointed.
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 20, 2011, 08:57:45 PM |
|
You don't mind if I share your car and your wallet, do you?
You have gone mad Explain your analogy how that even works the same as a symbol everyone can use and it still hold value for each person
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 20, 2011, 09:36:09 PM |
|
You have gone mad Explain your analogy how that even works the same as a symbol everyone can use and it still hold value for each person OK, I give you that: It isn't the best analogy. Still, using the word 'sharing' is just a euphemism. Man, you really don't get it, do you. This is wrong. This can fly in our face. Big potential for really big trouble. Why do you insist to put Bitcoin into danger? At least you should figure out if the Thai government really can't get us: Are we violating some international law? If yes, an official complaint from the Bank of Thailand is just what some senators in the US or some commissioners in the EU need to promote themselves. Do I need to remind you that we're just 2.54cm from being declared enemy in the war against drugs? But then: Viel Feind, viel Ehr'
|
|
|
|
zooko
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
|
|
October 20, 2011, 11:36:26 PM |
|
I use "ⓑ".
|
|
|
|
Xenland
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
|
|
October 20, 2011, 11:39:05 PM |
|
The last one makes most sense i picked the last one in fact my websites updates will feature the newly chosen symbol
|
|
|
|
tardo
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
|
October 21, 2011, 12:36:58 AM |
|
Ⓑ is definitely my favorite. It looks like a coin with a "b" on it so it's the most suitable in my opinion. I actually don't like ฿ and it's already taken which will cause confusion.
|
|
|
|
Gladiator
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
|
|
October 21, 2011, 01:28:47 AM |
|
"B" is the kind of symbol that does not go well with piercing lines. Especially not two. "lB" kind of symbol would look nice.
|
|
|
|
dunand
|
|
October 21, 2011, 02:01:34 AM |
|
Ⓑ is definitely my favorite.
I hate it because it looks like the Boston Bruins logo. Ⓑ
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 21, 2011, 11:04:48 AM |
|
And the $ is used only in the USA...
The vocal minority representing Thai refuses to accept sharing. In addition to those countries of the world that use dollars or pesos, a number of other countries use the $ symbol to denote their currencies, including: Nicaraguan córdoba (usually written as C$) Samoan tālā (a transliteration of the word dollar) Tongan paʻanga
An exception is the Philippine peso, whose sign is written as . The dollar sign is also still sometimes used to represent the Malaysian ringgit (which replaced the local dollar), though its official use to represent the currency has been discontinued . Some currencies use the cifrão , similar to the dollar sign, but always with two strokes: Brazilian real Cape Verde escudo Chilean peso Portuguese escudo (defunct)
The cifrão is also used to account for over 130,000,000 domestic standard U.S. Mint (1986+) bullion U.S. silver dollars as one dollar per one troy ounce fine (99.9%), thereby avoiding confusion with debased U.S. trade dollar-denominated tokens and Federal Reserve notes.[citation needed]
In Mexico and another peso-using countries, the cifrão is used as a dollar sign when a document uses pesos and dollars at the same time, to avoid confusions, but, when it used alone, usually is represented as US $ (United States dollars). Example: US $5 (five US dollars).[citation needed]
In the United States, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Pacific Island nations, and English-speaking Canada, the dollar or peso symbol precedes the number, unlike most currency symbols. Five dollars or pesos is written and printed as $5, whereas five cents is written as 5¢. In French-speaking Canada, the dollar symbol usually appears after the number, although it sometimes appears in front of it, or instead may even be totally absent. That is not even getting into the whole section of $ in programming languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_sign
|
|
|
|
theymos
Administrator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 5194
Merit: 12972
|
|
October 21, 2011, 11:15:05 AM Last edit: October 21, 2011, 11:35:40 AM by theymos |
|
I don't think a character symbol is really necessary. Just use BTC.
On images, the B with four vertical lines is unique and clear.
|
1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 21, 2011, 11:19:22 AM |
|
I'd personally love to see a revote in a month. Let this discussion die down, let no sides have some kind of large opinion. Believe it or not I don't care that much about it lol, it's that attitude that keeps me from downloading any files to see things that show up as blank boxes on my screen though too, like a lot of people I think.
|
|
|
|
anu
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
|
|
October 21, 2011, 12:27:03 PM |
|
I don't think a character symbol is really necessary. Just use BTC.
On images, the B with four vertical lines is unique and clear.
#2
|
|
|
|
Xenland
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
|
|
October 21, 2011, 02:22:44 PM |
|
Please read this page and decide for your self how much of a cultural impact all the other logos have(link below) you'll see on the left a bunch of questions/statements click on them to see their research facts. http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin/
|
|
|
|
Xenland
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
|
|
October 21, 2011, 08:22:28 PM |
|
I didn't get it....
|
|
|
|
Matthew N. Wright
Untrustworthy
Hero Member
Offline
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
|
|
October 21, 2011, 09:09:26 PM |
|
Witch Bitcoin Symbol
|
|
|
|
bitcoinminer
|
|
October 21, 2011, 09:14:54 PM |
|
Witch Bitcoin Symbol +1 beat me to it lol... I love that people don't know how to read or write on the internets.
|
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful.
-Warren Buffett
|
|
|
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
|
|
October 22, 2011, 02:09:38 AM |
|
I didn't get it.... I don't get this thread. Is there ever going to be a consensus on a symbol? Does it even matter?
|
Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
|
|
|
Xenland
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
|
|
October 22, 2011, 03:08:01 AM |
|
I didn't get it.... I don't get this thread. Is there ever going to be a consensus on a symbol? Does it even matter? It really doesn't matter in the end. All sellers/buyers need to know is what currency is accepted and what currency the buyer has and can pay with.
|
|
|
|
bitcoinminer
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:08:44 PM |
|
I vote for:
B$
|
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful.
-Warren Buffett
|
|
|
I.Goldstein
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:23:15 PM |
|
I am going to third B$. That would be too funny.
|
|
|
|
RandyFolds
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:31:27 PM |
|
Witch Bitcoin Symbol I can't believe this took four pages and three months. It should have been the first response.
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:36:17 PM |
|
I am going to third B$. That would be too funny.
I would change all Bitcoin related images I use on any sites to the B$ symbol if enough people are down. I would like that official too. No one would have to download any special characters. Does any other currency use two characters?
|
|
|
|
BitcoinPorn
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:42:49 PM |
|
You know that the reason why it's being suggested is because it's "BS", right?
I would hope so, if not, I am not in!
|
|
|
|
Rassah
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:44:42 PM |
|
If we're going with two symbols, anyway, why not B↑ or B↓ depending on your sentiment/opinion? (Bruce would likely use B↑↑↑)
|
|
|
|
Matthew N. Wright
Untrustworthy
Hero Member
Offline
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:45:53 PM |
|
If we're going with two symbols, anyway, why not B↑ or B↓ depending on your sentiment/opinion? (Bruce would likely use B↑↑↑)
No, bruce would likely use ฿♂y
|
|
|
|
RandyFolds
|
|
October 27, 2011, 07:53:16 PM |
|
If we're going with two symbols, anyway, why not B↑ or B↓ depending on your sentiment/opinion? (Bruce would likely use B↑↑↑)
No, bruce would likely use ฿♂y I just burst out laughing. Jesus Christ, you are on fire Matthew.
|
|
|
|
|