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July 14, 2011, 05:41:12 PM |
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Pointless poll really. Voted for the obvious.
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July 14, 2011, 06:19:58 PM |
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Have we decided if the symbol goes before the number or after?
(I'll just use B as the symbol) Do we write B7.12 or 7.12B? Or do we write B7,12 ?
Most currency's say $ amount.. or (Euro symbol) amount.. but it would be pronounced dollars 15 which no one says here...In the US as I know of. But Bitcoin..being the new amazing currency it is should be pronounced 7.12B and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) what ever happened to registering with the (I assume I will get this wrong) International Symbols Org?
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July 14, 2011, 06:26:32 PM |
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The bitcoin WITCH symbol: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F2aaaglu.jpg&t=665&c=lMeemGpL6n1iYw)
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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BitcoinPorn
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July 14, 2011, 08:10:04 PM |
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qwk has visualized what I have been thinking, but then thinking I was crazy too as "Which" is spelled correctly in OP
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July 14, 2011, 08:49:12 PM |
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Looks like my idea didn't make the cut: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg705.imageshack.us%2Fimg705%2F474%2F90338483.jpg&t=665&c=yegrkj7lTLW3yA)
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Phinnaeus Gage
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July 14, 2011, 08:52:13 PM |
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The bitcoin WITCH symbol: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F2aaaglu.jpg&t=665&c=lMeemGpL6n1iYw) Am I the only one who noticed that the end of the witch's broom looks like a flying squirrel?
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July 14, 2011, 11:41:35 PM |
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and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Because we use a decimal to separate sequences of three digit to make them better readable. And we don't use a comma for that because the decimal was already in use for making roman numerals better readable, so when we switched to Arabic numerals the most logic thing to make them better readable was doing the same like with the roman numerals, put a decimal between them. And if the decimal is already in use to make your numbers better readable, than you use a comma. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ontopic: ฿, because the B symbol with 2 vertical lines is already adopted by the biggest part of the community as the bitcoin symbol. For fonts 2 vertical lines makes it unreadable, so 1 line is the way to go. And yes it is already used for thai baht, just like the $ sign is also used for more than one currency.
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BTC: 1MifMqtqqwMMAbb6zr8u6qEzWqq3CQeGUr LTC: LhvMYEngkKS2B8FAcbnzHb2dvW8n9eHkdp
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Alex Beckenham
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July 15, 2011, 12:03:40 AM |
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and if you are out of the US please tell me why a comma is used instead of a decimal? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Because we use a decimal to separate sequences of three digit to make them better readable. And we don't use a comma for that because the decimal was already in use for making roman numerals better readable, so when we switched to Arabic numerals the most logic thing to make them better readable was doing the same like with the roman numerals, put a decimal between them. And if the decimal is already in use to make your numbers better readable, than you use a comma. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So your sig talks about winning 100.000 BTC. I'd very much like to win a hundred thousand bitcoins.
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July 15, 2011, 01:57:27 AM |
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So your sig talks about winning 100.000 BTC. I'd very much like to win a hundred thousand bitcoins.
Click the link then... Thanks for putting up a poll. It was hard to tell that this symbol is overwhelmingly preferred from the other post. Just think if you only allowed 1 vote...
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July 15, 2011, 05:43:30 AM |
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Why can't it be a letter combination
We already have a de-facto standard Bitcoin currency code: BTC This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies. In Lithuania (where I live) the currency has no nonstandard symbol. Litas is written as Lt (instead of the standard LTL) and centas is written as ct. 100ct = 1Lt. In Russia the ruble is written as pyб. and the kopek (0.01rub.) as к. or кoп. , which is Cyrillic. Latvian Lats is Ls. Actually, there seems to be quite a few currencies that are written in the alphabet of the country that uses them.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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July 15, 2011, 06:36:41 AM |
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Why can't it be a letter combination
We already have a de-facto standard Bitcoin currency code: BTC This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies. In Lithuania (where I live) the currency has no nonstandard symbol. Litas is written as Lt (instead of the standard LTL) and centas is written as ct. 100ct = 1Lt. In Russia the ruble is written as pyб. and the kopek (0.01rub.) as к. or кoп. , which is Cyrillic. Latvian Lats is Ls. Actually, there seems to be quite a few currencies that are written in the alphabet of the country that uses them. My dad was born in Lithuania, and I was born in Chicago. Any chance we are related? We seem to think alike. We're on the same forum and both of us have commented on this tread. It really would be weird if you enjoy eating kugelis like I do.
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July 15, 2011, 07:12:35 AM |
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Thanks for putting up a poll. It was hard to tell that this symbol is overwhelmingly preferred from the other post. Just think if you only allowed 1 vote...
I don't think this poll gives validity to 'overwhelmingly preferred' either. For starters - it would make more sense to give an indication of what the existing symbols are currently used for. Would ฿ get quite as many votes if it was mentioned alongside that this is already the symbol for the Thai Baht? What is the rationale for the options given? There are clearly others such as ƀ (not that I'd vote for that either) A proper poll wouldn't be conducted in this forum anyway I guess.. as bitcoinporn mentioned.. it'll probably just crop up again here in a mashed around form. These polls are damaging in my opinion because they are so 1 dimensional. It focuses on what looks good/familiar, without adequate consideration of the long term possibility of getting a genuinely unique-to-bitcoin glyph into the standards. A difficult feat for sure - but better for bitcoin I reckon. Boycott all existing glyphs for now and just use BTC until we get our own!
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July 15, 2011, 07:46:35 AM |
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Boycott all existing glyphs for now and just use BTC until we get our own!
+1 I don't agree that polls about currency symbols in this forum are necessarily damaging though - there are however two distinct groups and I think that should be clearly pointed out: the one that wants a symbol they can type right now (which this poll seems to be about) and the one that favors a more long-term solution with a novel and unique glyph. I'm personally in the second group because I don't see the big disadvantage of using "BTC" or an image in the meantime until we make it into the Unicode standard - I'm more interested in the long-term viability of Bitcoin and just recycling a symbol which is already in use will always be a poor compromise in my opinion. With the #-B variants we already have proposals for really compelling glyphs (in terms of appearance as well as inherent representation of Bitcoins foundations). I'm working on a font representation of the glyph right now which can hopefully serve as a starting point for further discussion and finally a well structured poll for a long-term new symbol. I don't condemn anyone wanting to use an existing symbol right now and the Baht symbol seems to be the consensus among this group (as the result of this and the previous poll seen to agree). We certainly can do much better in the long term though.
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July 15, 2011, 08:02:02 AM |
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I don't agree that polls about currency symbols in this forum are necessarily damaging though -
I guess 'damaging' is a bit of a strong word - but I think it helps entrench the shallow 'oh that looks good enough' choice. Using an existing glyph out there on websites does the same I guess. ..I don't see the big disadvantage of using "BTC" or an image in the meantime until we make it into the Unicode standard - I'm more interested in the long-term viability of Bitcoin and just recycling a symbol which is already in use will always be a poor compromise in my opinion.
Agreed. With the #-B variants we already have proposals for really compelling glyphs (in terms of appearance as well as inherent representation of Bitcoins foundations). I'm working on a font representation of the glyph right now which can hopefully serve as a starting point for further discussion and finally a well structured poll for a long-term new symbol.
Nice. It's easy to throw up a poll with existing glyphs.. but creating good looking fonts is tricky I believe. I'd like to see what the community can come up with that is unique to bitcoin - and then it might be good to have a sticky poll.
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July 15, 2011, 08:35:57 AM |
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This discussion is about a single-digit symbol, which is kind of complementary for most (all?) currencies.
Certainly not for all. A lot of currencies have "symbols" that are multiple characters. http://www.xe.com/symbols.php. It is also worth noting that for example in Sweden "kr" is listed as the "symbol" for swedish krona when it is really just an abbreviation of "krona", not a "symbol". When I log in to my bank online, amounts are simply listed without a symbol (e.g. 14515.45). So that's another option, don't bother with a symbol at all. Use the currency code (BTC) when it is necessary to avoid confusion. In Switzerland, CHF is used as both the symbol and the currency code by the way.
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July 15, 2011, 08:58:01 AM |
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Certainly not for all. A lot of currencies have "symbols" that are multiple characters.
Thanks for pointing that out - I realized that myself upon some further research. So that's another option, don't bother with a symbol at all.
I think we should have a symbol in the long-term because... we can ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Settling for BTC in the meantime is probably the best solution for now.
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Just adding a couple more Unicode candidates:
ⓑ ⒝ ℬ ੳ ᴯ ᴃ Ɓ Ƅ ൫ ദ ഭ
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July 15, 2011, 11:29:50 AM |
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ੳ lol what is ੳ it looks like a Mexican jumping bean
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July 15, 2011, 03:08:43 PM |
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൫ is pretty cool yeah
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