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July 17, 2018, 05:19:12 PM
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After KLITZ, there's nothing to do here.Bustabit went crazy.
The administrator reconfigured the script.
 Shiba: Median over last 50, 100 games: 1.535x, 1.595x

the games are predetermined. Nothing has changed besides the part of the chain we're on
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July 17, 2018, 05:50:56 PM
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After KLITZ, there's nothing to do here.Bustabit went crazy.
The administrator reconfigured the script.
 Shiba: Median over last 50, 100 games: 1.535x, 1.595x

the games are predetermined. Nothing has changed besides the part of the chain we're on

Nothing is predetermined. You are deceived.
https://jsfiddle.net/Dexon95/2fmuxLza/embedded/result/  It shows only the history of the games and there is nothing to prove honesty.
Can you still believe in Santa?

Ive played bustabit since 2015... Please learn about how the game works before you try to claim it was tampered. The games are hashed and chained together to prove the games havent been altered. If 1 game was changed or altered the entire chain would be broke and we would be able to tell.
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July 17, 2018, 11:13:43 PM
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After KLITZ, there's nothing to do here.Bustabit went crazy.
The administrator reconfigured the script.
 Shiba: Median over last 50, 100 games: 1.535x, 1.595x

the games are predetermined. Nothing has changed besides the part of the chain we're on

Nothing is predetermined. You are deceived.
https://jsfiddle.net/Dexon95/2fmuxLza/embedded/result/  It shows only the history of the games and there is nothing to prove honesty.
Can you still believe in Santa?

Ive played bustabit since 2015... Please learn about how the game works before you try to claim it was tampered. The games are hashed and chained together to prove the games havent been altered. If 1 game was changed or altered the entire chain would be broke and we would be able to tell.

How to check the integrity? Tell me please.

You posted the link yourself... if a game was altered the whole chain would be broke and that verifier would show it
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July 19, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
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It looks like the site will temporarily stop taking commission:

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08:57 A Daniel: In a few moments bustabit will restart for a server update. No big changes, I'm just suspending the wager commission that investors pay.
08:57 A Daniel: That will boost the max profit a bit
08:58 A Daniel: @Guthix Investors are charged 0.25% for each wager that's made on bustabit
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July 19, 2018, 09:43:42 PM
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I suggest admin to show hash future 5k games. Example 705000-710000 hash SHA256 7297db81c2f7916e25b9593f8c8785e1aa1487fa9f3961c50b7cc5f1a541bc82.
And at the end compare. And there will be no more questions.

Daniel already has!

The current game is: 664966, which has a hash of `74543360092eac88c1ff6fcaf74328cce1e93900fbfef9204b5458365eeb2b1a`. What this means is game 664967 when hashed will be `74543360092eac88c1ff6fcaf74328cce1e93900fbfef9204b5458365eeb2b1a`. And you can verify this as soon as game 664967 ends.

But more than this, when game 664967 ends it gives you not only enough information to verify it (check it hashes to 74543360092eac88c1ff6fcaf74328cce1e93900fbfef9204b5458365eeb2b1a) but it also commits to the next game. This is why it's known as a hash chain, and can be repeated until the very end.


So more generally, all games commit to all future games -- and allow you to verify that.


And the next piece of the puzzle is a function that can convert a hash into a game result in a fair way (i.e. having the advertised house edge) and importantly has no concept of a "good" and "bad" hash before the hash chain was created (to avoid daniel creating a biased hash chain), hence the use of the blockchain for a client seed.


Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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July 20, 2018, 06:40:35 AM
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I suggest admin to show hash future 5k games. Example 705000-710000 hash SHA256 7297db81c2f7916e25b9593f8c8785e1aa1487fa9f3961c50b7cc5f1a541bc82.
And at the end compare. And there will be no more questions.

I suggest you to educate yourself before making false claims, accuses and tell other people to perform actions to refute your baseless theories.
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July 20, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
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I suggested a way to prove justice. That no one had any doubts about juggling hands.
There are seed. All the distributions are known for the front admin. So why not do this?

Justice is already proven. Every game commits to the next game in a huge chain. The current proof is simpler and more elegant than your proposed method.
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July 20, 2018, 09:58:51 PM
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I suggested a way to prove justice. That no one had any doubts about juggling hands.
There are seed. All the distributions are known for the front admin. So why not do this?

Example.

GAME #667480-GAME #667486

cd11d221877f686fa16d95ca749838ca0df4e8eed5d52f20eba632520b26c9bf
9ac1a7603e867723875a708a94db81d5377458572cd35f8675f3351eb92aad5d
267bf1cc09f39bc03a3156be3bbba646dcb1921f5ce6a88f130b6cd70c2d7d1f
554aca7806e32edde232b863543722191756e59c5f2b32c27d7ec3ba4cc8585c
31ece5a9e0c34995425b4a2a44208b2d8118712bd27688d39c2939778c506aeb
15441a853f9b82bba7cdcea821d6ac96104ef272ab42f90cbcfd16ce033ea8a4
220e10106ab97bcf2173dd2e50568bbcd4c98157da1041fdcfc0c5b59013d8a8
 
Result SHA256
26a3597e1f7a17034307a51ee8b7a30193519e2e141b8dfcce79679d9dc1f764

Your proposed system would allow you to batch verify that N games were predetermined. However it besides the usability problems (you need to collect the result hash, then collect all N games hashes before you can verify) it also suffers a critical flaw:  it doesn't prove the hashes are drawn from a fair distribution. If your scheme was used, Daniel could just pick all bad hashes and then commit to them.

As scant says, the hash chain method is far more elegant and offers all the guarantees yours does, plus more.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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July 21, 2018, 06:10:13 PM
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Over the past few days KLITZ has won 300 BTC, making him the new record holder on bustabit for highest net profit. Congratulations!


Gotta admit that's a pretty damn impressive profit for KLITZ. Congrats to them.

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July 22, 2018, 05:23:13 AM
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Over the past few days KLITZ has won 300 BTC, making him the new record holder on bustabit for highest net profit. Congratulations!


Gotta admit that's a pretty damn impressive profit for KLITZ. Congrats to them.
he won 1200 coins then lost them all lmao
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July 25, 2018, 11:56:48 AM
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So its literally the same li bustabit but just the dilution fee?
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July 25, 2018, 12:49:40 PM
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So its literally the same li bustabit but just the dilution fee?

The dilution fee is just part of the new investment system. While the investment system is one of the most significant changes in v2 of bustabit, a lot more than that is new. See this thread's OP for a full list of changes  Smiley

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August 01, 2018, 09:13:29 AM
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Several days ago, my Firefox started to crashing (with running Bustabit session) everyday, around 3-4 a.m. (UTC); has anybody similar experience, or it is more probably related just to my OS and environment ?

And the second question - This Bustabit (v2) is running smoothly just under Firefox, I tried Chrome, Chromium, Midori and PaleMoon, but it doesn't run there. Has anybody the same experience ? Thanks.
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Several days ago, my Firefox started to crashing (with running Bustabit session) everyday, around 3-4 a.m. (UTC); has anybody similar experience, or it is more probably related just to my OS and environment ?

And the second question - This Bustabit (v2) is running smoothly just under Firefox, I tried Chrome, Chromium, Midori and PaleMoon, but it doesn't run there. Has anybody the same experience ? Thanks.

The bustabit client hasn't been updated since July 20th and I haven't received reports of the problem from any other players, so its cause probably lies elsewhere.

For what it's worth I test bustabit with Chrome during development and haven't noticed any performance issues. You can improve performance a little bit by enabling CPU saver mode from the game settings. To get there click the gear button to the left of the chat box.

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The bustabit client hasn't been updated since July 20th and I haven't received reports of the problem from any other players, so its cause probably lies elsewhere.

For what it's worth I test bustabit with Chrome during development and haven't noticed any performance issues. You can improve performance a little bit by enabling CPU saver mode from the game settings. To get there click the gear button to the left of the chat box.

Ok, it will probably be related to my environment, so I'll try to do some tests (or migrate the browser with Bustabit elsewhere).

About "CPU saver mode"; great hint, thanks - I'm not exactly sure, if I had or hadn't enable this before (as the checkbox displaying of this function is weirdly under the frame - but again, it could be related to my OS / environment), but I'll definitively try to enable and I'll see, if this would helps or not.


And anyway, another question - is it possible, somewhere in the script, use some variables like NetProfit or "Current_Amount_on_My_Account" or something like this ? Let's say I'd like to bet (in case of win) 1/1000 of NetProfit (or CurrentAmount, doesn't matter), so my question is, if e.g. this part of code :

Code:
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = config.baseBet.value;
} ...

is possible to replace with something like this :

Code:
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = round(($NetProfit - 20000) / 1000);
} ...

Thanks again, devans, for all your help and communication!
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August 03, 2018, 06:12:11 AM
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And anyway, another question - is it possible, somewhere in the script, use some variables like NetProfit or "Current_Amount_on_My_Account" or something like this ? Let's say I'd like to bet (in case of win) 1/1000 of NetProfit (or CurrentAmount, doesn't matter), so my question is, if e.g. this part of code :

Code:
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = config.baseBet.value;
} ...

is possible to replace with something like this :

Code:
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = round(($NetProfit - 20000) / 1000);
} ...

Thanks again, devans, for all your help and communication!

Yes, scripts can access the current net profit at userInfo.profit. For more information on what else the userInfo store provides see its section in the API documentation.

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August 03, 2018, 08:43:53 AM
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ATTENTION !!! Bustabit SCAM.Ne give your money.

I'll just copy & paste my response to the last time you made baseless accusations against bustabit:

Bustabit SCAM. Children do not come here. Here in plus only fake accounts. Danielle will select your money.
I am sure that Daniel pays here for the positive posts.

bustabit is provably fair. We prove that the odds are as advertised (1% house edge) and we prove that all game results are predetermined, regardless of how or when players bet.

If you are interested in the technical details, have a look at our seeding event for the technical details. If you just want to verify that the games you played were fair, you can use this open source tool that Dexon wrote.

If you think there's an issue with the provably fair scheme I am very happy to discuss it with you here. However, I'm sure everybody here would appreciate it if you could find some other way to vent.

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August 03, 2018, 09:00:15 AM
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I suggested a way to prove justice. That no one had any doubts about juggling hands.
There are seed. All the distributions are known for the front admin. So why not do this?

Example.

GAME #667480-GAME #667486

cd11d221877f686fa16d95ca749838ca0df4e8eed5d52f20eba632520b26c9bf
9ac1a7603e867723875a708a94db81d5377458572cd35f8675f3351eb92aad5d
267bf1cc09f39bc03a3156be3bbba646dcb1921f5ce6a88f130b6cd70c2d7d1f
554aca7806e32edde232b863543722191756e59c5f2b32c27d7ec3ba4cc8585c
31ece5a9e0c34995425b4a2a44208b2d8118712bd27688d39c2939778c506aeb
15441a853f9b82bba7cdcea821d6ac96104ef272ab42f90cbcfd16ce033ea8a4
220e10106ab97bcf2173dd2e50568bbcd4c98157da1041fdcfc0c5b59013d8a8
 
Result SHA256
26a3597e1f7a17034307a51ee8b7a30193519e2e141b8dfcce79679d9dc1f764

Your proposed system would allow you to batch verify that N games were predetermined. However it besides the usability problems (you need to collect the result hash, then collect all N games hashes before you can verify) it also suffers a critical flaw:  it doesn't prove the hashes are drawn from a fair distribution. If your scheme was used, Daniel could just pick all bad hashes and then commit to them.

As scant says, the hash chain method is far more elegant and offers all the guarantees yours does, plus more.

Like Ryan explained, bustabit's provably fair scheme already provides the same guarantees your method would.

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August 03, 2018, 09:05:03 AM
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And anyway, another question - is it possible, somewhere in the script, use some variables like NetProfit or "Current_Amount_on_My_Account" or something like this ? Let's say I'd like to bet (in case of win) 1/1000 of NetProfit (or CurrentAmount, doesn't matter), so my question is, if e.g. this part of code :

Code:
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = config.baseBet.value;
} ...

is possible to replace with something like this :

Code:
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = round(($NetProfit - 20000) / 1000);
} ...

Thanks again, devans, for all your help and communication!

Yes, scripts can access the current net profit at userInfo.profit. For more information on what else the userInfo store provides see its section in the API documentation.

Great, thanks a lot for the API documentation. I'm not sure, if userInfo.profit works well, but userInfo.balance, so e.g. something like this :

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if (config.win.value === 'base') {
   currentBet = userInfo.balance - 33333;
} ...

..works like a charm. Thanks again!
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All the guys. I am convinced that everything is honest. I delete my negative comments.
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