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November 20, 2018, 06:31:05 PM
Last edit: November 20, 2018, 06:49:26 PM by BayAreaCoins
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FuzzyHobbit went through the effort of obfuscating the commit history

Is FuzzyHobbit not y'all?  The code we used from Fuzzy was REALLY bad and buggy... it took a lot of work making it even remotely "right."

I'm also a bit confused why the current BustaBit website isn't under the same license if it's all based on this OS stuff?  Seems like to me if the rules of the lic applies to one, then they should apply for all?  Excuse me for being a noob in regards to this, but I'm learning. <3


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November 20, 2018, 07:12:02 PM
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I just wanted to poke my head in here and say two things.

1.  That Dean is utterly deceitful and dishonest in my opinion and experience.

2.  My website, FreeBitcoins.com, is using the source code from https://github.com/FuzzyHobbit/bustabit-gameserver/blob/master/license.txt under the license http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html.  After discussing with Deb and Dooglus (they aren't involved with FreeBitcoins, I was just blabbering with Deb and Deb was blabbering with Doog)... it seems we have to open source our stuff as well to comply with this license.  We are going to open source to adhere to the agreement.  If I'm missing anything, please let me know.  We'll do just about anything not to be a "Dean."

I haven't even made a Bitcointalk thread yet for our little gay rocket game, but I'll make sure that we open source the site before I make a thread.  (Clarification Edit: We do have a thread for investment stuff, but not like an "official thread.")

Thank you very much!

What a wonderful constructive post.

I am so happy to read your post which not only states (rightly so) that Dean and betking are scammers but also states that you would "not do a Dean".

It is posts and conducts such as these that make my belief in crypto steady when there so many scams galore all over the place.

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Is FuzzyHobbit not y'all?  The code we used from Fuzzy was REALLY bad and buggy... it took a lot of work making it even remotely "right."

It's based on an old version of bustabit v1, but it's just some random person who made his code opensource to comply with the AGPLv3. The version by kungfuant is also not "official" but it's a pretty close to the last public fork of bustabit v1. kungfuant is the guy who originally made shiba, so he's pretty trustworthy.


Originally there was an official open source bustabit (v1), but I was the one who stopped publishing publicly. At the time the site was getting spammed / DDoSd pretty heavily (funnily enough by some scam site on bitcointalk I called out, and they wanted retribution) and I was putting in lots of little-hacks to prevent the abuse (e.g. specific to the attacks they were doing). However because the repository was fully open, they were actually seeing my mitigations in real-time and working around them.  I had planned on re-opening the repository once I converted the hacks into reliable code -- but I never did so.

The reason bustabit was allowed to go "closed source" but no one else is, is because bustabit fully owns all copyright to the source and just published a AGPv3 version. All contributions that bustabit integrated were required to assign copyright to bustabit. (This is known as "dual licensing"). And it's the same reason that bustabit is allowed to sell people non-AGPLv3   encumbered versions of the code.


Also FWIW, the current version of bustabit (v2) is actually a ground-up rewrite that has zero shared history (it's not even written in the same language). It was a kind of a "let's take all the lessons learnt from running a successful casino and build a kick ass product with that in mind" with huge emphasis on things like security while bustabit v1 was very much hacked-together with the primary goal of getting to market and seeing how people like it. For reference, I think bustabit v1 took ~3 months from idea phase till it was hitting production. While I think bustabit v2 took >1.5 years from the first line of code until it was ready.   But Daniel is now the exclusive owner of all that stuff, so only he can decide if he wants to release it / license it or what not.

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It's based on an old version of bustabit v1

MoneyPot was "Bustabit v1" as I recall?


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Ryan, Are you the same guy that owned MoneyPot way back in the day when it had a "Bad Character" attempt to extort it pretty heavily... which resulted in the website sell the following week?  (I'm just trying to match faces... I seem to vaguely remember that.)

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devans=Daniel?


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Yeah, I'm the guy who bought bustabit in the early days. Back then it was called "MoneyPot". After adding provably fair, it really started to take off and at the same time I was building a new gambling product (bankroll-as-a-service) called "vault". Since I couldn't come up with a good domain for "vault", I rebranded  "moneypot" as "bustabit"  and then I launched "vault" as moneypot.

Then I found myself a bit burnt out with too much work, and sold moneypot.com  and then once I more or less finished the "bustabit v2" rewrite, I sold the entire project to Daniel (devans) who was the one who launched bustabit v2 (at the start of this year) and has been doing a great job running it ever since.

And now find myself having gone from way over worked, to way underworked.  Grin

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And now find myself having gone from way over worked, to way underworked.  Grin

Fucking story of my life my friend... story of my life!


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Yesterday's action was amazing, I wish we saw players like that more often.
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Yesterday's action was amazing, I wish we saw players like that more often.

Damn, 834BTC investor profit in one day  Shocked

Crazy. Pretty happy to be invested in the bankroll right now  Cheesy

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it's looks crazy because someone just lose 726 BTC ++ that worth more than 2.5 Million USD


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December 21, 2018, 11:14:16 PM
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it's looks crazy because someone just lose 726 BTC ++ that worth more than 2.5 Million USD

https://www.bustabit.com/user/baaaitcoin
When i do look at on when that player joined.It shows its just yesterday and made such deposit. Some whales which do have thousands of BTC
is trying to waste up his BTC for some unique game. lol. If he had hundreds of millions then losing a few number wont bother but who knows if hes
already knocking his head on the wall.

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December 22, 2018, 08:52:47 AM
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it's looks crazy because someone just lose 726 BTC ++ that worth more than 2.5 Million USD


https://www.bustabit.com/user/baaaitcoin

He was playing in at least 2 accounts, he lost about 800 BTC.
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December 22, 2018, 01:53:28 PM
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I will always have a soft spot in my heart for this game. It was this game where I really started to gamble in bitcoin along with just-dice at the time which was as far as I can recall the first off-chain dice game we had (could be a wrong info don't quote me on that).

Since that time, I have not played too much but thanks to bustabit I have learned about the moneypot and his "vault" idea and started to use it as my wallet as well and after about 2 years of that I think I finally stopped using it, for a long time even after it was sold to some other people I kept using it, only stopped when they went awol for a while to upgrade to moneypot v2 and only than I moved on.

Bustabit and just-dice was just soooo much better than anything out there on their early days and they literally collected all wagered amounts just between them compared to all other places. I really hope RHavar makes a new thing thats super fun to play once again, the bored people really need it and apparently he is one of the bored people now and he needs to do something too Cheesy
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December 22, 2018, 02:01:10 PM
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I will always have a soft spot in my heart for this game. It was this game where I really started to gamble in bitcoin along with just-dice at the time which was as far as I can recall the first off-chain dice game we had (could be a wrong info don't quote me on that).

Since that time, I have not played too much but thanks to bustabit I have learned about the moneypot and his "vault" idea and started to use it as my wallet as well and after about 2 years of that I think I finally stopped using it, for a long time even after it was sold to some other people I kept using it, only stopped when they went awol for a while to upgrade to moneypot v2 and only than I moved on.

Bustabit and just-dice was just soooo much better than anything out there on their early days and they literally collected all wagered amounts just between them compared to all other places. I really hope RHavar makes a new thing thats super fun to play once again, the bored people really need it and apparently he is one of the bored people now and he needs to do something too Cheesy



Was RHavar the author and coder of the Crash game?

Was there a gambling/gaming Crash game in existence before the Bustabit Crash game or was this the first one?

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December 22, 2018, 06:16:35 PM
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Was RHavar the author and coder of the Crash game?

Was there a gambling/gaming Crash game in existence before the Bustabit Crash game or was this the first one?

Read. (or do basic research)

Yeah, I'm the guy who bought bustabit in the early days.

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December 22, 2018, 06:26:04 PM
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Can somebody kindly explain if the original Bustabit site had the Crash game or was it offering one or several other games?

Regardless of who created or bought Bustabit or its predecessor (and regardless who the subsequent owners are), who was it that coded the original Crash game?

And before Crash was on Bustabit were there any other sites that ran Crash or was Bustabit the first site to offer the Crash game?


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December 22, 2018, 06:41:05 PM
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Can somebody kindly explain if the original Bustabit site had the Crash game or was it offering one or several other games?
They were offering only crash games,no other ames on Bustabit.
Regardless of who created or bought Bustabit or its predecessor (and regardless who the subsequent owners are), who was it that coded the original Crash game?
And before Crash was on Bustabit were there any other sites that ran Crash or was Bustabit the first site to offer the Crash game?
It looks like some other crash games were created based on Bustabit origial crash game so this means this is the first site which created crash game.

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 #398

Can somebody kindly explain if the original Bustabit site had the Crash game or was it offering one or several other games?
They were offering only crash games,no other ames on Bustabit.

Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

Does anybody know who coded the original Crash game?


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December 23, 2018, 05:52:47 AM
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Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

Does anybody know who coded the original Crash game?
AFAIK it's Eric, the creator of Moneypot.
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December 23, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
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Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

Does anybody know who coded the original Crash game?
AFAIK it's Eric, the creator of Moneypot.



Thank you for the information and links.



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