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June 04, 2023, 09:08:47 PM
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 came here to warn all the community that Bustabit is a Scam site .

1. BUSTABIT DONT HAVE LICENCE AT ALL !
2. The probably fair is manipulated and its conneted to his friend site Cryptogbling.org (an other bitcointalk user site )  to make it look trusted !
3. Take a look at their TrustPilot its reviews everyone says its scam  
4. Most of players are Bots , and sometimes to get more people into it he claim that an user is profiting from using script like Lightguide user , so other people fall for it to deposit and try this script  

how did i get scammed ?

This is not the 1st accusation there are over 100 scam accuastion for Bustabit and its still  up and scamming people

HOW COME BITCOINTALK ALLOW A SCAM SITE TO OPERATE SINCE 2013 and stealing people every day !
We need to put a RED FLAG 🚩 ON Bustabit main thread  and take this site down

And a lot of people are falling for it
Just me lost over 10.000$ there  ( yes the game can be manipulated 10000% ill add a video youtube soon proofing that )

I made over 100 times deposits there and lost them all one by one
But recently i made a huge deposit and tried to Pre credit it over 5 times but didnt work so i needed to wait till the trasaction get confirmed on blockchain ,  
When i login the next day to see if my deposit got confirmed
THERE IS NO DEPOSIT AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN DELETED FROM OWNER
send a ticket to solve it , and owner that there was not any deposit and the address of deposit has changed
He tries to fool me , but how can i be fooled when i made over 100 deposits and know how bitcoin work very well  

You can make a same site for 500$ so dont be fool to play there as you will be scammed 100% from this predator

if bustabit owner commet here i would ask just to Drop the Licence number of Curaco

Anyother excuse will be to protect  his scam way since 2013
yeah i made Report on all online FED sites  
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June 04, 2023, 10:00:11 PM
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Hopefully, you get banned for spreading that bullshit. Bustabit is more reputable than most DEFI projects.
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2. The probably fair is manipulated and its conneted to his friend site Cryptogbling.org (an other bitcointalk user site )  to make it look trusted !

(…)

And a lot of people are falling for it
Just me lost over 10.000$ there  ( yes the game can be manipulated 10000% ill add a video youtube soon proofing that )

A provably fair system cannot cheat without detection. That's the whole point of being provably fair: Anyone including yourself and anyone reading this thread can independently verify bustabit's fairness without taking my word for it.

By calculating the SHA256 hash of each game you can verify that they are part of a chain and therefore predetermined, meaning they could not have reacted to how you bet. By calculating the corresponding multiplier for each game's hash you can verify that bustabit actually used the advertised reference function. And finally you can analyze this reference function to verify that the house edge is indeed 1%.

4. Most of players are Bots , and sometimes to get more people into it he claim that an user is profiting from using script like Lightguide user , so other people fall for it to deposit and try this script

I do not play on bustabit, nor do I employ anyone to play on bustabit, use bots to play on bustabit or otherwise fake activity. It's impossible for me to prove that, but for players the game is provably fair regardless (see above).


I made over 100 times deposits there and lost them all one by one
But recently i made a huge deposit and tried to Pre credit it over 5 times but didnt work so i needed to wait till the trasaction get confirmed on blockchain ,  
When i login the next day to see if my deposit got confirmed
THERE IS NO DEPOSIT AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN DELETED FROM OWNER
send a ticket to solve it , and owner that there was not any deposit and the address of deposit has changed
He tries to fool me , but how can i be fooled when i made over 100 deposits and know how bitcoin work very well  

As I explained to you at length and multiple times in response to your support request, bustabit can only credit Bitcoin transactions sent to your deposit address after they are confirmed by the Bitcoin network. If a transaction does not send to your deposit address and/or is not confirmed by the Bitcoin network, bustabit has not received any money and cannot credit anything to your account. For details refer to your support request (the one in which you're threatening to post bad reviews every day if I don't pay you 😉).

if bustabit owner commet here i would ask just to Drop the Licence number of Curaco

Anyother excuse will be to protect  his scam way since 2013
yeah i made Report on all online FED sites  

bustabit doesn't hold a license in Curaçao, though I fail to see how that's relevant in the context of provable fairness or deposits to bustabit. Players and investors trust bustabit because it has been operating honestly since 2014, not because some government in the Caribbean says they should.
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June 05, 2023, 08:57:31 AM
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Previously, the commission rate paid by bankroll investors was calculated by converting the bankroll to special drawing rights (XDR) using the average exchange rate of the past 360 days, then dividing the result by 55,000,000 XDR. Going forwards, the average exchange rate of the past 180 days will be used instead, allowing the commission rate and by extension the bankroll to react to changes in Bitcoin's price faster. The immediate effect is a reduction of the commission rate paid by investors from approximately 67% to 52%.

Sweet. A slight tangent, but it'd probably worth making an /invest-calculator that allows you to plug in a few variables:

* bankroll
* how much you are investing
* assume bankroll is static or not (i.e. if investors keep taking profits)
* average daily turn over
 (and more??)

And gives you the average outcomes of the investment. As it's basically a calculation that investors all repeatedly need to keep making to figure out if it's worth investing or not. And it'll probably make investors more responsive, as it's a lot easier to see expected outcomes.

Did you then proceed to make that calculator? If it's the case I'd like to have a chance to try it.

2. The probably fair is manipulated and its conneted to his friend site Cryptogbling.org (an other bitcointalk user site )  to make it look trusted !

(…)

And a lot of people are falling for it
Just me lost over 10.000$ there  ( yes the game can be manipulated 10000% ill add a video youtube soon proofing that )

A provably fair system cannot cheat without detection. That's the whole point of being provably fair: Anyone including yourself and anyone reading this thread can independently verify bustabit's fairness without taking my word for it.

By calculating the SHA256 hash of each game you can verify that they are part of a chain and therefore predetermined, meaning they could not have reacted to how you bet. By calculating the corresponding multiplier for each game's hash you can verify that bustabit actually used the advertised reference function. And finally you can analyze this reference function to verify that the house edge is indeed 1%.

4. Most of players are Bots , and sometimes to get more people into it he claim that an user is profiting from using script like Lightguide user , so other people fall for it to deposit and try this script

I do not play on bustabit, nor do I employ anyone to play on bustabit, use bots to play on bustabit or otherwise fake activity. It's impossible for me to prove that, but for players the game is provably fair regardless (see above).


I made over 100 times deposits there and lost them all one by one
But recently i made a huge deposit and tried to Pre credit it over 5 times but didnt work so i needed to wait till the trasaction get confirmed on blockchain ,  
When i login the next day to see if my deposit got confirmed
THERE IS NO DEPOSIT AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN DELETED FROM OWNER
send a ticket to solve it , and owner that there was not any deposit and the address of deposit has changed
He tries to fool me , but how can i be fooled when i made over 100 deposits and know how bitcoin work very well  

As I explained to you at length and multiple times in response to your support request, bustabit can only credit Bitcoin transactions sent to your deposit address after they are confirmed by the Bitcoin network. If a transaction does not send to your deposit address and/or is not confirmed by the Bitcoin network, bustabit has not received any money and cannot credit anything to your account. For details refer to your support request (the one in which you're threatening to post bad reviews every day if I don't pay you 😉).

if bustabit owner commet here i would ask just to Drop the Licence number of Curaco

Anyother excuse will be to protect  his scam way since 2013
yeah i made Report on all online FED sites  

bustabit doesn't hold a license in Curaçao, though I fail to see how that's relevant in the context of provable fairness or deposits to bustabit. Players and investors trust bustabit because it has been operating honestly since 2014, not because some government in the Caribbean says they should.

@devans the sheer amount of patience you had to summon to respond to baseless accusations from someone who hasn't even spent five minutes of his life figuring out  how provably fair system works is admirable.
I hope I had same patience when dealing with my real life issues.

Hats off
 

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June 05, 2023, 01:21:08 PM
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@devans the sheer amount of patience you had to summon to respond to baseless accusations from someone who hasn't even spent five minutes of his life figuring out  how provably fair system works is admirable.
I hope I had the same patience when dealing with my real-life issues.

Hats off
 
At some point, we grow in maturity to the level that we take everything and react to them adequately as possible regardless of who is coming from and why, as a manager or sale representative this is one skill you need to develop to suicide in real life because as you meet people you discover differences in character and behaviour but for you personal well being you have to relate and react to them accurately and professionally.

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June 06, 2023, 11:49:09 AM
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When there is full peace here, they come around, don't they?  Grin
Some are sore losers, others are scammers looking to squeeze out a penny or two by making baseless accusations without even any single required proof. Maybe they think members around here will be fooled by their antics. Time wasters.

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June 06, 2023, 05:08:25 PM
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<...>
When there is full peace here, they come around, don't they?  Grin
Some are sore losers, others are scammers looking to squeeze out a penny or two by making baseless accusations without even any single required proof. Maybe they think members around here will be fooled by their antics. Time wasters.

And some may be competitors spreading bullshit.
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June 09, 2023, 05:47:29 PM
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Daniel would you be so kind as to consider lifting my ban?
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June 09, 2023, 06:00:10 PM
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@devans the sheer amount of patience you had to summon to respond to baseless accusations from someone who hasn't even spent five minutes of his life figuring out  how provably fair system works is admirable.
I hope I had the same patience when dealing with my real-life issues.

Hats off
 
At some point, we grow in maturity to the level that we take everything and react to them adequately as possible regardless of who is coming from and why, as a manager or sale representative this is one skill you need to develop to suicide in real life because as you meet people you discover differences in character and behaviour but for you personal well being you have to relate and react to them accurately and professionally.
Very well spoken brother, the ability to comfortably relate to everyone in a calm and cool headed way is indeed a great skill and one that if well, nurtured and cared for, could make its bearer a king amongst men.

The op is indeed gift with such a quality, and I as well admire his level of patience, he is the type that does really well in jobs like customer care representative, or a P.A to a CEO of some big business or company, I will advice him to just keep it up, it is actually a good thing to always respond to customers, or potential customers, no matter how baseless their enquiry or argument appear to be.

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June 09, 2023, 10:36:21 PM
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Very well spoken brother, the ability to comfortably relate to everyone in a calm and cool headed way is indeed a great skill and one that if well, nurtured and cared for, could make its bearer a king amongst men.

The op is indeed gift with such a quality, and I as well admire his level of patience, he is the type that does really well in jobs like customer care representative, or a P.A to a CEO of some big business or company, I will advice him to just keep it up, it is actually a good thing to always respond to customers, or potential customers, no matter how baseless their enquiry or argument appear to be.
That is a managerial quality because it has to be developed over to. Since responses to issues and setting a responsive standard of communication is one of the most effective tool for the marketing manager or the team representative, so I ain't say that the ops is gifted that is some how an abuse against ops efforts in developing such a managerial effective communication chanels&

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The signature campaign spammers are back...
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August 04, 2023, 07:59:46 PM
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With Bustabit being the original crash game and us expanding our crash games section, we just had to write a review: https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-game-reviews/crash/bustabit-game-review/ Smiley

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October 02, 2023, 03:07:18 PM
Last edit: October 04, 2023, 04:51:59 PM by hilariousandco
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Read your email daniel, it's easier to communicate there than here.

You gotta make an exception man

3 Years have past, continued playing the whole time, caused none of the problems I caused pre-ban, no FUDD'ing, no spamming, which were the initial reasons for my ban. Haven't done any of it in the 3 years since my ban, Please please please just make an exception and let me continue to enjoy the game

Come on daniel let me be the one exception I've continued playing for the last 3 years that I've been banned without doing a single one of the actions that caused me to get banned in the first place, I've proven that I'm no longer the retarded child that I was before - where I used to spam and FUD whenever I lost, I've done none of that despite losing all probably 100 times on 100 accounts since the ban. Please give me one chance. It's a bi-lateral beneficial decision, I get to enjoy your site without the anxiety and worry of being caught and having funds locked, you stop getting emails and your BTCF thread spammed. Every single time, the only trouble I cause is when I get banned and funds locked. Whenever I'm just playing, I cause no problems. Don't even type in chat, I just type commands to the DM box of shiba. No FUD when I lose, no spams, no typing in any global chats at all. I just peacefully enjoy the game without bugging anyone else. I'm sure to anyone else reading this they think I'm causing trouble but I don't cause any trouble what-so-ever (not that any of you would have any reason to believe that since you only see the part where I spam requesting to get given a chance every few months).


Let me be the one exception, I've proven that I have changed.
Seriously please consider it. It benefits both sides 100% no doubt
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October 03, 2023, 07:21:17 AM
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I'll just quote myself from a previous occasion on which you mistakenly thought complaining here would make me lift your ban:

See my previous posts, which I believe were quite clear:

Assuming the name of your bustabit.com account is also Perplex005, I disabled betting for your account because I think that you have a gambling problem, which I explained to you several times. Obviously I can't stop you from gambling entirely, but given the things you have told me I don't think you should be gambling on bustabit or anywhere else. I will not change my mind regardless of how many times you complain about it.

I will not go into more detail as I cannot verify that this is indeed your bustabit account and also do not publicly discuss support requests and emails that users sent me in confidence in general.

You may not bet or chat on bustabit or bustadice because it is clear to me that you have a gambling problem. Based on your posts in this forum alone I am confident any reasonable person would agree with that assessment, not to mention your behavior via chat and email. I will not reconsider my decision–which I have explained to you at length multiple times–and I will no longer respond to your emails and support requests demanding to be allowed to bet again.

However, your ability to withdraw your money is not and never has been restricted. So once again: Please withdraw any remaining balance you may have and refrain from using bustabit.

You are not welcome on bustabit and I'd appreciate if you could stop spamming this thread with the same pointless complaint over and over again.
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October 03, 2023, 07:25:49 AM
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Its not a complaint - at least that's not what the intention
is, its a proposition. Tell me, what problems have I caused for you during the time I've been playing while banned? Please, tell me. And don't say "the spam posts and emails" because you and I both know that I've only ever done this when you ban me. It would benefit both of us if you just gave me a second chance

Just act different mfer, you only ever ban the winning accounts never the losing ones and this has been a persistent theme for the last year so I won't just give up this time. I've proven myself on-site that I've changed and you still ban me every time. Be logical, both our troubles will go away if you just have me a chance
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October 03, 2023, 10:41:21 AM
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Daniel told me in writing that he'd rather deal with this and deal with me making dozens if not hundreds of accounts to spam email him and spam this forum, than unban me. This is the words from his mouth. Never seen someone so unreasonable in my life. I've never seen someone value their pride over their livelihood. Brother youre not unbanned me because your ego doesn't want you to reverse a decision, despite the decision being made years ago and things having changed since.

Let me state It's not like you appear as one of the most reasonable people on this planet.

Just move on, switch to other gambling sites, there is a ton out there.

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Daniel told me in writing that he'd rather deal with this and deal with me making dozens if not hundreds of accounts to spam email him and spam this forum, than unban me. This is the words from his mouth. Never seen someone so unreasonable in my life. I've never seen someone value their pride over their livelihood. Brother youre not unbanned me because your ego doesn't want you to reverse a decision, despite the decision being made years ago and things having changed since.

Let me state It's not like you appear as one of the most reasonable people on this planet.

Just move on, switch to other gambling sites, there is a ton out there.


Oh believe me I know I come across as a mentally ill person when I come here to spam every 3 months, but I've never, not even once done it out of unnecessary malice. I only ever do it when Daniel locks me from withdrawing and playing his site despite doing nothing wrong. I haven't done a single thing wrong on any of my dozen accounts that I've used in the last two years. Not one thing that is bankable. Not EVEN one thing that is considered annoying. No spam, no FUD, barely any chat logs at all as I just type commands to Shiba DM. Yet he feels the need tk disrupt my play and ban me and stop me from being able to withdraw every time.

I would insult his intelligence a lot more considering any reasonable, logical person would just unban someone when they've shown to have improved and only cause trouble when getting banned for evading the original ban, but he owns a billion dollar site and I don't so obviously he isn't dumb

I can't even begin to understand why you're being so unreasonable. I got banned on michaels sites at the same time as I got banned on your sites for the same reason; immaturity. And even HE gave me another chance and unbanned me, and I proved to him that I changed because I've not been re-banned since. ASK HIM FOR YOURSELF! ill send his discord # and even send DM proof.

You have to give me a chance daniel, one chance, otherwise we will be going in circles for the rest of time. You can give me a chance and unban me now, or we can continue doing this cat and mouse thing every 3-4 months until you sell the site to someone who isn't such a stubborn fucker.


It isn't a threat, its the gods honest truth. I don't intend on stopping my playing on your site because I enjoy it. Its that simple. I enjoy your site and I have changed. Its getting to the level of ridiculousness that I think there is some hidden reason that you're keeping me banned. I'm convinced that there has to be another reason you're doing this, because it truly just doesn't make sense anymore. It quite literally benefits both of us jf you just unbanned me now.

You can ignore this, but the fact is, I won't stop playing on your site. I've done nothing wrong since the original ban and I wish you just leveled with me and realised that its a never ending battle otherwise.

Please just make it easier for both of us? You can end this right now by just being reasonable and giving me a chance. Everyone deserves a second chance, even the retarded perplex who was a child at the time of the initial ban.


I didn't choose this, Daniel chose this. And he continues to choose this every single time. Any reasonable human would just choose the option that benefits both parties, and give me a chance. MICHAEL of ethercrash and etheric gave me a chance and I proved to him that I changed by not getting re banned at all since. Choose the right option, come on
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October 03, 2023, 01:57:13 PM
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The only thing you will achieve with this way of posting is to be banned here as well

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying. [2][e]

and it would be well deserved imo.

Putting you in ignore from now on, best of luck.

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The only thing you will achieve with this way of posting is to be banned here as well

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying. [2][e]

and it would be well deserved imo.

Putting you in ignore from now on, best of luck.

God forbid however will I recover from this random fat virgin muting me? I might as well kill myself now, how can I live on...

keep me banned:
I keep playing every 3 months when you unlock my accounts
You re-ban me every 3 months
You get the forum spammed and your email spammed because I am annoyed that you're banning me for no reason (Sorry I know this is basically just blackmail but I don't like having to wait 3 months to withdraw funds when I did nothing wrong)


unbanned me:
I keep playing whenever I feel, or whenever I get bored
You get no (read: ZERO) messages on the forum, as I have no reason to put messages there now I'm unbanned
You get no (read: ZERO) emails (unless I have a genuine enquiry) as I have no reason to email there now I'm unbanned


You recieve no spam emails and no spam posts from me
I recieve enjoyment of your site without having to fear being caught and re-banned for no reason


I can't physically fathom why you aren't taking the unban option. WE BOTH BENEFIT. There are 2, and ONLY 2 reasons you wouldn't take this option

1) There's another reason you're keeping me banned that you don't want to discuss
2) Ego, or some sort of OCD where you can't go back on words you say
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Oh no, he's off his meds again.

Daniel stay strong.  You're playing this exactly right.

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