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February 09, 2018, 10:34:00 AM
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Out of curiosity, How many full nodes belong to blockchain.info ?

I could not find this information. most of the links (in blockchain.info site) to that information are dead.
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February 09, 2018, 10:59:13 AM
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Out of curiosity, How many full nodes belong to blockchain.info ?

I could not find this information. most of the links (in blockchain.info site) to that information are dead.
Do you know the difference between blockchain.info "wallet" and Bitcoin Core "Full node"?
Any computer that connects to the Bitcoin network is called a node. Nodes that fully enforce all of the rules of Bitcoin are called full nodes.[1]
GLOBAL BITCOIN NODES DISTRIBUTION
I think the main reason for the dead nodes is that most people have moved to segwit nodes





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February 09, 2018, 11:08:35 AM
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Do you know the difference between blockchain.info "wallet" and Bitcoin Core "Full node"?

Not really and still learning. I guess everyone that has Bitcoin Core installed has a full-node?
What I mean is that surely blockchain.info wallets work with some kind of modified bitcoind. and my question was how many bitcoind full-node clients do they use to maintain so many users?
I'm also unsure of how blockchain.info "wallets" actually work.
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February 09, 2018, 11:22:06 AM
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Not really and still learning. I guess everyone that has Bitcoin Core installed has a full-node?
What I mean is that surely blockchain.info wallets work with some kind of modified bitcoind. and my question was how many bitcoind full-node clients do they use to maintain so many users?

I don't know why, but now i can't find any information on their site.
Before, it was here - https://blockchain.info/connected-nodes . But link is dead.
Also, you could see number of nodes in the bottom of the web page before, but now is nothing there. 

I'm also unsure of how blockchain.info "wallets" actually work.

It's connected to full nodes and pushes transactions through them (in simple).

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February 10, 2018, 10:00:31 AM
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Probably none,  they frequently have displayed invalid transaction and block data that suggests their service operates without validation.


Agreed, I am not saying this is a coincidence, but these guys are connected with Roger Ver and not big supporters of Bitcoin anymore. They built their empire with Bitcoin, but they pulled Bitcoin Cash in, before SegWit? Whats up with that?

Why would you run nodes and support the competition's network?  Huh

I do not trust these guys at all. What is next? Will they stop support for BTC and pull a "Circle" on us?

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February 10, 2018, 01:19:48 PM
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Agreed, I am not saying this is a coincidence, but these guys are connected with Roger Ver and not big supporters of Bitcoin anymore. They built their empire with Bitcoin, but they pulled Bitcoin Cash in, before SegWit? Whats up with that?

Maybe, because SegWit still tested? Until recently, it was hard to create segwit addresses through core client. It's very wise to add something only after it will be pretty tested.
For example in avia industry it takes 1-3 years to start produce something after it was accepted (F 18 first flight - 1978 but it was introduced into production in 1983)

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February 10, 2018, 01:56:57 PM
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Why would you run nodes and support the competition's network?  Huh

I do not trust these guys at all. What is next? Will they stop support for BTC and pull a "Circle" on us?
Blockchain.info probably gains quite some profits from the services that they provide. It isn't wise for them to stop supporting Bitcoin and abandon their profits altogether. To be fair, they did implement the weight units fairly promptly.

Maybe, because SegWit still tested? Until recently, it was hard to create segwit addresses through core client. It's very wise to add something only after it will be pretty tested.
You'll be surprised at how much they care about testing stuff thoroughly before pushing it out.


Either way, no one should be caring about Blockchain.info and they're pretty irrelevant.

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February 11, 2018, 05:27:31 AM
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Probably none,  they frequently have displayed invalid transaction and block data that suggests their service operates without validation.


Maybe the OP should ask how many Bitcoin Cash nodes does Blockchain.info run. Hahaha.

It is one of the of the biggest services that fill up the blocks, they should be running Segwit and should be doing batch transactions if they cared. But they don't, so time to leave and we should start encouraging everyone to use Greenaddress.it instead.

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February 12, 2018, 09:34:06 AM
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I'm just curious on how meany full node server blockchain.info uses? is it dozes? hundreds? thousands?
In order to maintain 22,000,000+ wallets...

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February 12, 2018, 07:15:22 PM
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I'm just curious on how meany full node server blockchain.info uses? is it dozes? hundreds? thousands?
In order to maintain 22,000,000+ wallets...
probably just one full node. why would they need more than one? it would be a waste of hdd space.
they might need different server for processing transactions and other stuff
but they are non-custodial wallet so I think they don't store much of your wallet info on their server

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I'm also unsure of how blockchain.info "wallets" actually work.

It's connected to full nodes and pushes transactions through them (in simple).


Can you please explain a bit more? Aren't the full nodes belong to them?
It was also suggested that transactions might be not validated? How can a computer be connected to the block chain (node) without fully enforce all of the rules of Bitcoin and NOT using a full node?

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I'm also unsure of how blockchain.info "wallets" actually work.

It's connected to full nodes and pushes transactions through them (in simple).


Can you please explain a bit more? Aren't the full nodes belong to them?
It was also suggested that transactions might be not validated? How can a computer be connected to the block chain (node) without fully enforce all of the rules of Bitcoin and NOT using a full node?



Jokes aside, Blockchain.info probably have full node that syncs blockchain somewhere that performs all of the usual functions of full node.

However they also have software that parses information from actual blockchain, writing it into searchable database (SQL or something similar). Your API call to blockchain.info most likely does not interact with actual node in any way, it only operates with information stored in their database.

I have no idea how their on-line wallet operates, but chances are in very similar way. They only use their node to push your transactions to the web. All tx generation and signing happens in some sort of backend app.
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I'm also unsure of how blockchain.info "wallets" actually work.

It's connected to full nodes and pushes transactions through them (in simple).


Can you please explain a bit more? Aren't the full nodes belong to them?
It was also suggested that transactions might be not validated? How can a computer be connected to the block chain (node) without fully enforce all of the rules of Bitcoin and NOT using a full node?



Jokes aside, Blockchain.info probably have full node that syncs blockchain somewhere that performs all of the usual functions of full node.

However they also have software that parses information from actual blockchain, writing it into searchable database (SQL or something similar). Your API call to blockchain.info most likely does not interact with actual node in any way, it only operates with information stored in their database.

I have no idea how their on-line wallet operates, but chances are in very similar way. They only use their node to push your transactions to the web. All tx generation and signing happens in some sort of backend app.

Really? does this work like this?
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February 14, 2018, 02:54:46 AM
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Probably none,  they frequently have displayed invalid transaction and block data that suggests their service operates without validation.


Maybe the OP should ask how many Bitcoin Cash nodes does Blockchain.info run. Hahaha.

It is one of the of the biggest services that fill up the blocks, they should be running Segwit and should be doing batch transactions if they cared. But they don't, so time to leave and we should start encouraging everyone to use Greenaddress.it instead.

I believe Blockchain.info is under Roger Ver's control.



This is the first time I have heard about this wallet. I just checked it out and it seems to be pretty good except for the fact that it looks like it requires you to have their side be able to provide you with their side of the signature given that they have a signature for your addresses as well. How long have you been using them for and how much can you say for their reliability and their security? I am currently a blockchain.info user but certainly not a fan of them and would appreciate an alternative.

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February 14, 2018, 06:34:09 AM
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Probably none,  they frequently have displayed invalid transaction and block data that suggests their service operates without validation.


Maybe the OP should ask how many Bitcoin Cash nodes does Blockchain.info run. Hahaha.

It is one of the of the biggest services that fill up the blocks, they should be running Segwit and should be doing batch transactions if they cared. But they don't, so time to leave and we should start encouraging everyone to use Greenaddress.it instead.

I believe Blockchain.info is under Roger Ver's control.



This is the first time I have heard about this wallet. I just checked it out and it seems to be pretty good except for the fact that it looks like it requires you to have their side be able to provide you with their side of the signature given that they have a signature for your addresses as well. How long have you been using them for and how much can you say for their reliability and their security? I am currently a blockchain.info user but certainly not a fan of them and would appreciate an alternative.

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February 14, 2018, 09:14:52 PM
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Probably none,  they frequently have displayed invalid transaction and block data that suggests their service operates without validation.


Maybe the OP should ask how many Bitcoin Cash nodes does Blockchain.info run. Hahaha.

It is one of the of the biggest services that fill up the blocks, they should be running Segwit and should be doing batch transactions if they cared. But they don't, so time to leave and we should start encouraging everyone to use Greenaddress.it instead.

I believe Blockchain.info is under Roger Ver's control.



This is the first time I have heard about this wallet. I just checked it out and it seems to be pretty good except for the fact that it looks like it requires you to have their side be able to provide you with their side of the signature given that they have a signature for your addresses as well. How long have you been using them for and how much can you say for their reliability and their security? I am currently a blockchain.info user but certainly not a fan of them and would appreciate an alternative.

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Not sure what that question mark is about. You mentioned that you should start encouraging everyone to use Greenaddress.it, so I assume you have some experience with it. The questions I wrote were related to that. Regardless, I did some research and figured out some of the answers to those questions and it turns out they also have a 2 of 3 option for address signing which would resolve the issue I had with it about what could happen if their service did go down.

I was not aware Roger Ver had any influence on Blockchain.info.

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Sorry, I got confused. I thought you were saying Blockchain.info when you said that it was the "first time you have heard about this wallet". I was thinking, "impossible". Hahaha.

Roger Ver is an early investor in Blockchain.info. It would be naive to think that he has no influence over their matters.

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February 15, 2018, 11:47:39 AM
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This is the first time I have heard about this wallet. I just checked it out and it seems to be pretty good except for the fact that it looks like it requires you to have their side be able to provide you with their side of the signature given that they have a signature for your addresses as well.

It's a little more complicated, but it's for security. Greenaddress can't send your money themselves with this design, as you hold 1 of the keys needed for sending from your Greenaddress wallet. That means your money can't be stolen from Greenaddress if their website is hacked, the attackers would need to hack your computer too to get your signing key.


How long have you been using them for and how much can you say for their reliability and their security? I am currently a blockchain.info user but certainly not a fan of them and would appreciate an alternative.

I've not used GreenAddress (I run a Bitcoin node myself to access the Bitcoin network), but they've been around for a few years now without controversy. They're reputation is, as of now, that of a good actor in the Bitcoin industry.


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This is the first time I have heard about this wallet. I just checked it out and it seems to be pretty good except for the fact that it looks like it requires you to have their side be able to provide you with their side of the signature given that they have a signature for your addresses as well.

It's a little more complicated, but it's for security. Greenaddress can't send your money themselves with this design, as you hold 1 of the keys needed for sending from your Greenaddress wallet. That means your money can't be stolen from Greenaddress if their website is hacked, the attackers would need to hack your computer too to get your signing key.


How long have you been using them for and how much can you say for their reliability and their security? I am currently a blockchain.info user but certainly not a fan of them and would appreciate an alternative.

I've not used GreenAddress (I run a Bitcoin node myself to access the Bitcoin network), but they've been around for a few years now without controversy. They're reputation is, as of now, that of a good actor in the Bitcoin industry.



I see. That is quite interesting. The main reason why I am still not fully convinced by them is because of the negative reviews that I happened to come across when I was looking for their application in the Android app store. It would seem as if a significant number of people have had negative experiences or have lost access to their bitcoins. Other reviewers, however, claim that this is mostly out of their own neglect and not knowing how to manage their bitcoins correctly and securely. To be fair to them, other reviewers also claim that it is actually quite simple and that there are even people who complain about basic things such as thinking that the network fees go to GreenAddress themselves. Another reason I have not tried it out is that it would seem as if they might not support bech32 addresses yet, even though they say they do support SegWit. I could be wrong about some of this, however, since I have not actually used them yet.

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February 20, 2018, 12:05:34 PM
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I see. That is quite interesting. The main reason why I am still not fully convinced by them is because of the negative reviews that I happened to come across when I was looking for their application in the Android app store. It would seem as if a significant number of people have had negative experiences or have lost access to their bitcoins. Other reviewers, however, claim that this is mostly out of their own neglect and not knowing how to manage their bitcoins correctly and securely. To be fair to them, other reviewers also claim that it is actually quite simple and that there are even people who complain about basic things such as thinking that the network fees go to GreenAddress themselves. Another reason I have not tried it out is that it would seem as if they might not support bech32 addresses yet, even though they say they do support SegWit. I could be wrong about some of this, however, since I have not actually used them yet.
I'm sorry that I didn't reply sooner but it was buried under my recent replies and I feel that I should provide my own experience too.

I've used greenaddress previously and I feel that the concept was somewhat okay. Personally, I feel that it doesn't provide much more security than a wallet without a 2FA enabled. Now to the negative part:

Their Android app was nothing short of confusing and buggy. There was this one time where I've sent 0.044BTC to an address in a greenaddress wallet I've created on my Android app. I was certain that I have done the 2FA correctly and I didn't set any emails. IIRC, it crashed and closed after I've created the wallet. I wasn't given any warnings about it. When I tried to send the funds, the 2FA was incorrect and I was frustrated as hell. Thinking that I can get my funds back with their timelock function, I decided to wait. However, I can't send any of the files with the fact that there is no email set with the wallet. It's $500 in today's value and its terrible to see it stuck there. Their support wasn't helpful at all.

In short, stay away from Greenaddress.it. Good idea but terrible execution.

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