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Question: Satoshi works for
a government agency (with good intention)
a government agency (as a part of an evil plan)
a university
himself/herself (independent hacker)

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September 16, 2013, 08:55:56 AM
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There are generally 3 options that people speculate about: either Satoshi works for something like NSA (in US, UK or other country), or he/she is an academic, or some independent cypherpunk. Option about NSA is two-sided: either Bitcoin is an evil conspiracy against mankind, or it's a creation to save the world by someone in the knowledge within a well-funded government agency.

What's your speculation?


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September 16, 2013, 09:14:35 AM
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he did enough solo mining to be through by now...for all we know there is someone who works for bitcoin full-time who happens to be him and its a schizophrenic episode to be satoshi.

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September 16, 2013, 09:15:15 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is an anagram for "i am NSA, took oaths"

Make of that what you will.
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September 16, 2013, 11:30:30 AM
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I'm guessing he wouldn't degrade himself with any of those organizations
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September 16, 2013, 11:41:28 AM
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I doubt the official story of the lone anonymous hacker. Time may tell.

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September 16, 2013, 11:45:07 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is an anagram for "i am NSA, took oaths"

Make of that what you will.

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September 16, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
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Why does it have to be good or evil for it to be a government plan, can't it just be some gray area?
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September 16, 2013, 12:36:39 PM
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I think he is working for NSA like organization or may be part of this Cheesy

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September 16, 2013, 03:37:45 PM
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himself/herself  Cheesy
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September 16, 2013, 03:47:34 PM
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Why does it have to be good or evil for it to be a government plan, can't it just be some gray area?

Difference is this:

1. Either it's some govt plan for whatever good/gray/bad reasons.

2. Or he/she is a single smart person working in NSA or another place that hire many smart cryptographers and hackers. He/she wants to change the world by releasing Bitcoin, but can be prosecuted for espionage by his/her own employee. Also, if people find out that Bitcoin is made by a someone in NSA, they might not trust it very much.

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September 16, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is an anagram for "i am NSA, took oaths"

Make of that what you will.


can't decide which applies more for me:

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i guess i'm leaning on #2 due to its caption
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September 16, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
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Define good or evil.

My guess is, it's the US gov preparing for a post-USD world with them holding some 50% of the worlds money reserve again. For me that's damn evil as I don't see any chance of getting rid of the military industrial complex if that's the case.

If you work in the US "defense" (only one " for brevity) sector, that's damn good as your employer will not run out of wars for the next 100 years. If you are into Bitcoin for the profit, that's damn good as there is no way Bitcoin could be stopped by any Fed or gov or anything. If you think "honest money" can only be better than fiat because the banks can go die finally, no matter the fact that some organisation owns half of all of this oh so honest money, then it's good.

These thoughts make it hard for me to put all my weight behind the white knight Bitcoin saving us all from evil fiat. It's not black or white. The idea is good and Crypto-Money is here to stay but I doubt some provable non-gov version would ever survive that long.

Edit: Ok, I picked "evil plan" just to see what the others picked and I can't believe 70% think that it was a single person! Is this forum run by the NSA with tons of sock puppets?

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September 16, 2013, 09:06:35 PM
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It could be a name for a group of hackers...

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September 16, 2013, 10:31:04 PM
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independent hacker i guess
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September 16, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
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e) Illuminati

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September 16, 2013, 10:41:09 PM
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And does anybody know or it should be in Speculation section ?
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September 16, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
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a government agency (with good intention)    - doubt it, people with 100% good intentions in government get fucked
a government agency (as a part of an evil plan) - his identity would be revealed then, because the government loves acting like all the evil it does is actually "for the children"
himself/herself (independent hacker) - independent hackers seem to get revealed, like Mitnick, and get bent over by the government, no matter if they are black/white/grey hats.
a university - this is my vote, because I've seen rabble-rousing university professors like John Lott manage to be successful and not get bent over by the government despite some universities being quasi-governmental

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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September 16, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
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His white paper looks like it was made somebody who most likely went to grad school for computer science/cryptography.
So I think he works for a university.
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September 17, 2013, 08:25:35 AM
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Define good or evil.

My guess is, it's the US gov preparing for a post-USD world with them holding some 50% of the worlds money reserve again. For me that's damn evil as I don't see any chance of getting rid of the military industrial complex if that's the case.

If you work in the US "defense" (only one " for brevity) sector, that's damn good as your employer will not run out of wars for the next 100 years. If you are into Bitcoin for the profit, that's damn good as there is no way Bitcoin could be stopped by any Fed or gov or anything. If you think "honest money" can only be better than fiat because the banks can go die finally, no matter the fact that some organisation owns half of all of this oh so honest money, then it's good.

These thoughts make it hard for me to put all my weight behind the white knight Bitcoin saving us all from evil fiat. It's not black or white. The idea is good and Crypto-Money is here to stay but I doubt some provable non-gov version would ever survive that long.

Edit: Ok, I picked "evil plan" just to see what the others picked and I can't believe 70% think that it was a single person! Is this forum run by the NSA with tons of sock puppets?
This. Petrodollar --> Bitcoin.  Could also be some other country fed up by the petrodollar.

But it is hard to imagine a) an agency being so creative, b) them not being scared but really pulling it of

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September 17, 2013, 11:00:13 AM
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I suggest we keep Litecoin around just in case.

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