[ANN] [POW] [XHV] Haven Protocol - untraceable payments x stable value storage

[Brixnmorta]

I've stopped receiving coins to my wallet and the deamon shows the following errors, any pointers on how to trouble shoot?

2018-05-06 22:57:05.069 [RPC0]  ERROR   cn      src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils.cpp:133 Failed to parse transaction from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:05.085 [RPC0]  ERROR   daemon.rpc      src/rpc/core_rpc_server.cpp:169 Failed to parse and validate tx from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:19.116 [RPC0]  ERROR   cn      src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils.cpp:133 Failed to parse transaction from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:19.116 [RPC0]  ERROR   daemon.rpc      src/rpc/core_rpc_server.cpp:169 Failed to parse and validate tx from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:31.068 [RPC1]  ERROR   cn      src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils.cpp:133 Failed to parse transaction from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:31.068 [RPC1]  ERROR   daemon.rpc      src/rpc/core_rpc_server.cpp:169 Failed to parse and validate tx from blob

There is reference here to the error and mention of the Monero fork https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/7254/failed-to-parse-transaction-from-blob-failed-to-validate-transaction-from-daemo however these errors came from the most recent 2.1.0 version wallet from here https://github.com/havenprotocol/haven/releases

[havenprotocol]

I've stopped receiving coins to my wallet and the deamon shows the following errors, any pointers on how to trouble shoot?

2018-05-06 22:57:05.069 [RPC0]  ERROR   cn      src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils.cpp:133 Failed to parse transaction from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:05.085 [RPC0]  ERROR   daemon.rpc      src/rpc/core_rpc_server.cpp:169 Failed to parse and validate tx from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:19.116 [RPC0]  ERROR   cn      src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils.cpp:133 Failed to parse transaction from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:19.116 [RPC0]  ERROR   daemon.rpc      src/rpc/core_rpc_server.cpp:169 Failed to parse and validate tx from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:31.068 [RPC1]  ERROR   cn      src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils.cpp:133 Failed to parse transaction from blob
2018-05-06 22:57:31.068 [RPC1]  ERROR   daemon.rpc      src/rpc/core_rpc_server.cpp:169 Failed to parse and validate tx from blob

There is reference here to the error and mention of the Monero fork https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/7254/failed-to-parse-transaction-from-blob-failed-to-validate-transaction-from-daemo however these errors came from the most recent 2.1.0 version wallet from here https://github.com/havenprotocol/haven/releases

Start by typing flush_txpool in your daemon. Restart it and see if error continues.

If that doesn't work you may have to clear chain and resync. You could also always use one of the remote nodes:

eu-remote.havenprotocol.com
OR
us-remote.havenprotocol.com

For both use port 17750.

[AlexanderDumas]

Haven implements a great idea in a clever way, but I have a few questions about how it is going to work in practice, mainly around the issue of TRUST, which is very important for this coin

- When retrieving from offshore, how will the exchanges be chosen to calculate the correct number of coins to mine?  I can imagine that this coin is not exactly government-friendly, so what if it has been 6 months and all the original exchanges were shut down, and now there are some new exchanges?  

- Presumably in answer to the above question there is some sort of registration system for incorporating new exchanges into the protocol.  Who gets to decide which exchanges are bona fide exchanges to be incorporated and which not?   There seems to be some issues of third party trust here, which blockchain is supposed to avoid.  How will fraudulent or potentially fraudulent exchanges be handled?  What about exchanges set up by governments explicitly to manipulate the price?  Very likely if the coin is perceived as an actual threat - which it will be if it is successful.

- What if all the original exchanges were shut down and there are no more exchanges at all when funds are brought back?  What would the fall-back position be to decide on the number of coins to mine?  Or would all funds simply be irretrievable in that scenario?

- Cryptoasset prices can be very volatile.  What about the delay between issuing the command to retrieve funds, and the completion of all the mining?  The price could change in that time, perhaps significantly, especially if manipulated by governments (if considered an actual, real threat).  Will the amount to be mined be continually updated throughout mining?  Won't there be the danger of mining too much?  Or too little?  Does the coin holder simply take on some price risk here?  I thought the coin was supposed to avoid that?

- How will the mining pools to be used decided on?  Pools come into and go out of existence.  Would the coin holder simply be able to decide which pools?  Or will the protocol itself set up virtual pools on chain as the need arises?

For someone interested in sending a significant amount of money offshore, these are very live questions.  Although the coin implements a really nice, clever idea, I think it will be hard to build a robust offshore storage system that people can really trust with significant quantities of funds.

The idea of this project is RAD. I really want to hear explanations to these questions though. If this project succeeds I guess everybody in crypto will throw a safety amount there just for emergency scenarios. Also all the cartels

They need to fix their wallets though..
As is I would not keep more than a few hundred euros worth of.

Web wallet still not working properly. I have attempted sending money to another wallet and they came back all the times.

[big_daddy]

dear miners,

can someone share with me what are the best afterburner settings for MSi Armor 570 8GB Micron mem
& what is the best miner to use to mine XHV

[Mattthev]

dear miners,

can someone share with me what are the best afterburner settings for MSi Armor 570 8GB Micron mem
& what is the best miner to use to mine XHV

OC memory to the max stable, check for memory errors in HWinfo.
https://github.com/IndeedMiners/xmr-aeon-stak/releases

[big_daddy]

dear miners,

can someone share with me what are the best afterburner settings for MSi Armor 570 8GB Micron mem
& what is the best miner to use to mine XHV

OC memory to the max stable, check for memory errors in HWinfo.
https://github.com/IndeedMiners/xmr-aeon-stak/releases

ok, the mem, but the cpu clock?

[Mattthev]

dear miners,

can someone share with me what are the best afterburner settings for MSi Armor 570 8GB Micron mem
& what is the best miner to use to mine XHV

OC memory to the max stable, check for memory errors in HWinfo.
https://github.com/IndeedMiners/xmr-aeon-stak/releases

ok, the mem, but the cpu clock?

You mean GPU core clocks? Depends on power consumption and hashrate you want. I wrote some examples in FAQs https://mining-bios.eu/guides-and-miners/bios-mod-faqs/

[Snowii]

guys,

is the havenwallet.com supposed to be working now? trying to login using my private login key (=pass phrase of bunch of words) and it gives me an "Error connecting to the backend. Can't login." below the enter my account button.

would be kinda nice to see that a week worth of mining is actually there...

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[BroganBloodstone]

Haven implements a great idea in a clever way, but I have a few questions about how it is going to work in practice, mainly around the issue of TRUST, which is very important for this coin

- When retrieving from offshore, how will the exchanges be chosen to calculate the correct number of coins to mine?  I can imagine that this coin is not exactly government-friendly, so what if it has been 6 months and all the original exchanges were shut down, and now there are some new exchanges?  

- Presumably in answer to the above question there is some sort of registration system for incorporating new exchanges into the protocol.  Who gets to decide which exchanges are bona fide exchanges to be incorporated and which not?   There seems to be some issues of third party trust here, which blockchain is supposed to avoid.  How will fraudulent or potentially fraudulent exchanges be handled?  What about exchanges set up by governments explicitly to manipulate the price?  Very likely if the coin is perceived as an actual threat - which it will be if it is successful.

- What if all the original exchanges were shut down and there are no more exchanges at all when funds are brought back?  What would the fall-back position be to decide on the number of coins to mine?  Or would all funds simply be irretrievable in that scenario?

- Cryptoasset prices can be very volatile.  What about the delay between issuing the command to retrieve funds, and the completion of all the mining?  The price could change in that time, perhaps significantly, especially if manipulated by governments (if considered an actual, real threat).  Will the amount to be mined be continually updated throughout mining?  Won't there be the danger of mining too much?  Or too little?  Does the coin holder simply take on some price risk here?  I thought the coin was supposed to avoid that?

- How will the mining pools to be used decided on?  Pools come into and go out of existence.  Would the coin holder simply be able to decide which pools?  Or will the protocol itself set up virtual pools on chain as the need arises?

For someone interested in sending a significant amount of money offshore, these are very live questions.  Although the coin implements a really nice, clever idea, I think it will be hard to build a robust offshore storage system that people can really trust with significant quantities of funds.

The idea of this project is RAD. I really want to hear explanations to these questions though. If this project succeeds I guess everybody in crypto will throw a safety amount there just for emergency scenarios. Also all the cartels

Yea. I like the idea. But we definitely need answers to some tough questions.

[pbfarmer]

Still fighting this issue - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2989487.msg35733003#msg35733003

Using CLI it asks to find/create wallet, I use my wallet name for GUI wallet and it says it's not found. So then I create new wallet with different file name, but on password line the keyboard just doesn't work, nothing types((

So I have 4.3 coins balance and zero clue how to withdraw them. Any thoughts?

Wallet is stored at C:\Users\[your_windows_username]\Documents\Haven\wallets\[wallet_name]\[wallet_name] (assuming you have a normal users setup) - cli needs the full path to the wallet.  And yes, wallet_name is in the path twice - first is a folder, second is actual wallet file.

[pbfarmer]

Why was the Haven online wallet removed from the website? The Windows GUI wallet doesn't work as I am not able to send coins out and syncing the wallet to the blockchain locally is such a pain. When will you re-instate the online wallet?

Use the cli wallet.  I can't send w/ the gui, but cli works fine.  Just keep in mind that it requires full path to wallet to open.

[pbfarmer]

iam send haven to tradeogre status pending, search tx id baf5fba1b68fd3ceeb51c4e46f76dda1a0844188ff8f1e6dea8a3db97082732f not found

I use offline wallet. But i can't send my haven to tradeorge

cli wallet works for sending

[seefatlow]

Why was the Haven online wallet removed from the website? The Windows GUI wallet doesn't work as I am not able to send coins out and syncing the wallet to the blockchain locally is such a pain. When will you re-instate the online wallet?

What issue are you having with the windows wallet?
You can always use a remote node to avoid having to download the blockchain.

our remote nodes are

eu-remote.havenprotocol.com
OR
us-remote.havenprotocol.com

For both use port 17750.

I am unable to send coins to tradeorge with the windows wallet. Is there a bug in the GUI wallet?

[reeyon]

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[pbfarmer]

Why was the Haven online wallet removed from the website? The Windows GUI wallet doesn't work as I am not able to send coins out and syncing the wallet to the blockchain locally is such a pain. When will you re-instate the online wallet?

What issue are you having with the windows wallet?
You can always use a remote node to avoid having to download the blockchain.

our remote nodes are

eu-remote.havenprotocol.com
OR
us-remote.havenprotocol.com

For both use port 17750.

I am unable to send coins to tradeorge with the windows wallet. Is there a bug in the GUI wallet?

See my three posts directly above yours.

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[havenprotocol]

Haven implements a great idea in a clever way, but I have a few questions about how it is going to work in practice, mainly around the issue of TRUST, which is very important for this coin

- When retrieving from offshore, how will the exchanges be chosen to calculate the correct number of coins to mine?  I can imagine that this coin is not exactly government-friendly, so what if it has been 6 months and all the original exchanges were shut down, and now there are some new exchanges? 

- Presumably in answer to the above question there is some sort of registration system for incorporating new exchanges into the protocol.  Who gets to decide which exchanges are bona fide exchanges to be incorporated and which not?   There seems to be some issues of third party trust here, which blockchain is supposed to avoid.  How will fraudulent or potentially fraudulent exchanges be handled?  What about exchanges set up by governments explicitly to manipulate the price?  Very likely if the coin is perceived as an actual threat - which it will be if it is successful.

- What if all the original exchanges were shut down and there are no more exchanges at all when funds are brought back?  What would the fall-back position be to decide on the number of coins to mine?  Or would all funds simply be irretrievable in that scenario?

- Cryptoasset prices can be very volatile.  What about the delay between issuing the command to retrieve funds, and the completion of all the mining?  The price could change in that time, perhaps significantly, especially if manipulated by governments (if considered an actual, real threat).  Will the amount to be mined be continually updated throughout mining?  Won't there be the danger of mining too much?  Or too little?  Does the coin holder simply take on some price risk here?  I thought the coin was supposed to avoid that?

- How will the mining pools to be used decided on?  Pools come into and go out of existence.  Would the coin holder simply be able to decide which pools?  Or will the protocol itself set up virtual pools on chain as the need arises?

For someone interested in sending a significant amount of money offshore, these are very live questions.  Although the coin implements a really nice, clever idea, I think it will be hard to build a robust offshore storage system that people can really trust with significant quantities of funds.

When retrieving from offshore, how will the exchanges be chosen to calculate the correct number of coins to mine?  I can imagine that this coin is not exactly government-friendly, so what if it has been 6 months and all the original exchanges were shut down, and now there are some new exchanges?

The Haven decentralised orcale, which will determine the current price, will be updated to include the new exchanges. The current thinking is that this wont be apart of the Haven core code, so its not like we'd need to hardfork Haven just to add more exchanges.

Presumably in answer to the above question there is some sort of registration system for incorporating new exchanges into the protocol.  Who gets to decide which exchanges are bona fide exchanges to be incorporated and which not?   There seems to be some issues of third party trust here, which blockchain is supposed to avoid.  How will fraudulent or potentially fraudulent exchanges be handled?  What about exchanges set up by governments explicitly to manipulate the price?  Very likely if the coin is perceived as an actual threat - which it will be if it is successful.

The devs will decide which exchange API to reference, same as how we update Haven Core, so we aren't going to reference those exchanges. We can also reference other pricing api's where Haven is listed. i.e. CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko, LiveCoinWatch, Blockfolio etc


What if all the original exchanges were shut down and there are no more exchanges at all when funds are brought back?  What would the fall-back position be to decide on the number of coins to mine?  Or would all funds simply be irretrievable in that scenario?

The protocol will just use the last known price (each block has the current price) although its pretty unlikley we'd lose all exchanges at once. We'd utilise decentralised exchanges which can't just be shut down.

Cryptoasset prices can be very volatile.  What about the delay between issuing the command to retrieve funds, and the completion of all the mining?  The price could change in that time, perhaps significantly, especially if manipulated by governments (if considered an actual, real threat).  Will the amount to be mined be continually updated throughout mining?  Won't there be the danger of mining too much?  Or too little?  Does the coin holder simply take on some price risk here?  I thought the coin was supposed to avoid that?

The new coins aren't mined, they are 'minted' instantly. This is treated just like a regular transaction so it will need to be in a block too and thus would take the same amount of time.

How will the mining pools to be used decided on?  Pools come into and go out of existence.  Would the coin holder simply be able to decide which pools?  Or will the protocol itself set up virtual pools on chain as the need arises?

Addressed above, the new coins aren't mined so no need for a pool

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