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September 16, 2019, 07:04:08 AM
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The ices are melting, there are a lot of proof about that. When ices melt, all this water warms up the ocean. As you know, oceans are Earths cooling system, it distributes the heat with its currents and spreads around the globe.
If the heat in oceans increases, there may be no current to distribute the heat at all. If that happens, we will suffer by a lot...
+The hurricanes will become and are becoming more and more frequent and stronger.
+Sea level is rising, taking the land back. Almost all cities are located near rivers and oceans due to transportation benefits. They will be flooded.
+Extreme summers and winters. Global warming isn't about sea level rise, it means epically hot summers and extremely cold winters.

I remember in my childhood that winters were snowy and summers were mild. Right now, we have snowless cold cold winters and in summer there is extreme heat (never ever I remember that there would be 40 celsius in summer..)

So yes, the global warming is real and a very serious deal. We should think about planet we live on, not about profit. Right now we can quite easily move to renewable energy and quit burning fuel, but the history is repeating. The French monarch Liudvik XIV once said: "Après moi, le déluge" ("After me, the flood"). . We should think more about the future generations and not about ourselves right now  Smiley

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September 16, 2019, 04:04:34 PM
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^^^ That's not global warming. That's nature's erratic fighting against chemtrails that government and the Elite are spraying to stop fictitious global warming. In fact, your post talks about both, global warming and global cooling. But you want to call it global warming. Why?

If you think that any of us really know what's going on in nature, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0_Of0WGkEs to see that scientists are just as baffled about it as anyone else might be.



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September 16, 2019, 06:58:59 PM
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Yes, it is certainly real. The weight of evidence is absolutely overwhelming. It's akin to saying is the sun hot, or is the sea wet.

Of course there are some prominent people who claim to believe that global warming is not real, but usually these people have vested interests in industries that contribute to the problem. So what they believe and what they say they believe can be different things. Similar to tobacco company executives "believing" that tobacco is not harmful.

We have to remember that global warming is exactly that - global. It doesn't mean that everywhere is always warmer than before, it means that on average the whole world is warmer. One effect of global warming is increasingly erratic weather, so more and bigger hurricanes, tornados, floods, droughts etc. In the past, climate changes have played out over geological timeframes, so very difficult to understand on a human scale. These days however, the change has accelerated so much it is now decade to decade, each one warmer and with more extreme events than the last.

Look at the charts, look at the evidence. It's not one person's "yes" argument against another person saying "no". It is a fact that global warming is transforming the only home we have.

One scary aspect of global warming is that whilst most countries suffer, Russia benefits. Those vast swathes of frozen tundra become habitable. That vast country that has always been hampered by a dearth of warm water ports suddenly has access everywhere. So whilst it is in almost everyone's interests to fight climate change, I can't see Russia ever agreeing.
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September 16, 2019, 07:04:51 PM
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Global warming is not just real but it is happening currently in the world. With the general increase of temperature on the Earth, it has brought about catastrophic destruction to our ecosystem and to the natural habitat. We may seem to take everything for granted but we have this inherent intergenerational responsibility of self-preservation for the generations to come.

Global warming is not just a serious issue but it has to be addressed and controlled in order to prevent disastrous effect brought about by mother nature. Before, tropical storms have resulted to floods but due to global warming, it has the potential of resulting to flash floods which is more devastating and intensified.

Lastly, along with the general increase of temperature on the Earth's atmosphere, it has melted ice caps which would be devastating problem if it persists. It will not only endanger the polar bears and other animals but it will also affect us in the future if we do not address this problem soon.
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September 16, 2019, 08:26:08 PM
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One scary aspect of global warming is that whilst most countries suffer, Russia benefits. Those vast swathes of frozen tundra become habitable. That vast country that has always been hampered by a dearth of warm water ports suddenly has access everywhere. So whilst it is in almost everyone's interests to fight climate change, I can't see Russia ever agreeing.

I heard that fairly early on Russia's political leadership caught wind of the whole 'global warming' thing (probably hoping it was true) and asked their intel people to look into it.

The Russian intel folks got back to the leadership with a report that it was a hoax perpetrated by the globalists to scam money and work toward their one-world govt schemes.  People like the Rockefellers.

After researching it a while ago, I rather quickly came to the same basic conclusion.  And I started out being a 'climate believer.'  To bad about those 'climategate' hacked e-mails, and thank God for whistle-blowers.


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September 16, 2019, 09:02:15 PM
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Even the doctored charts that show global warming, are showing that the rate of warming is slowing down, and is moving towards global cooling.

We should be working on what we can to prepare for the next ice-age... which could start as early as the next 30 years.

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September 17, 2019, 01:42:55 AM
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I think it is real and inevitable.

But it seems too arrogant to contribute the major cause to ourselves.
The earth had multiple times of global warming and freezing during geological history.

And the major greenhouse gas seems to be water vapor other than carbon dioxide (though the latter one forms the major part of man-made).
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September 17, 2019, 02:21:04 AM
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The ices are melting, there are a lot of proof about that. When ices melt, all this water warms up the ocean. As you know, oceans are Earths cooling system, it distributes the heat with its currents and spreads around the globe.
If the heat in oceans increases, there may be no current to distribute the heat at all. If that happens, we will suffer by a lot...
+The hurricanes will become and are becoming more and more frequent and stronger.
+Sea level is rising, taking the land back. Almost all cities are located near rivers and oceans due to transportation benefits. They will be flooded.
+Extreme summers and winters. Global warming isn't about sea level rise, it means epically hot summers and extremely cold winters.

There are a number of false claims in your post.

1. No current to distribute  the heat.

That is impossible. Current, either in air or liquids such as water, is the inevitable result of temperature differences. Those are inevitable given the variance in solar to different latitudes, the tilt of the earth and the elliptical orbit.\

2. Cities near rivers and oceans will be flooded.

If so they are in the wrong places.

3. Epically hot summer and extremely cold winters.

No, an increase in heat to the globe could not possibly mean "extremely cold winters." On the average, winters would be hotter by the same amount summer days were hotter.

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September 17, 2019, 10:06:57 AM
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Just heard on the radio driving to work that ozone hole is the smallest in the last 20 years. And if we keep up with with alternative sources as much as we upgraded in the last 10 years we are on the right way to completely fix our ozone layer.
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September 18, 2019, 11:39:29 AM
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I think it is real and inevitable.

But it seems too arrogant to contribute the major cause to ourselves.
The earth had multiple times of global warming and freezing during geological history.

And the major greenhouse gas seems to be water vapor other than carbon dioxide (though the latter one forms the major part of man-made).


You need another adjustment.  The amount of CO2 which is attributable to humans is, IIRC, about 4% of the total CO2.  96% of it is from natural sources.

So, the first pie chart needs a tiny sliver of just the CO2 slice which represents the human contribution from all of our coal plants, SUV's, breathing, etc.

Not only that, but the total CO2 'budget' oscillates yearly as natural cycles which are responsible for producing and consuming CO2 alternate by margins much greater than the 4% human contribution.  This because it is alternatively summer and winter where in the hemisphere with the highest land mass.

Once one has even a vague order-of-magnitute understanding of the actual science here, the hoax nature of the 'global climate change' scare tactics falls into focus.  I don't think I've talked to even one 'greenie' chicken-little who had even an order-of-magnitude understanding of even just the CO2 aspect of this stuff.



That from here:  https://www.quora.com/What-makes-global-warming-realistic  I've not read the article.


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September 18, 2019, 05:07:45 PM
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Just heard on the radio driving to work that ozone hole is the smallest in the last 20 years. And if we keep up with with alternative sources as much as we upgraded in the last 10 years we are on the right way to completely fix our ozone layer.
I guess that this would be a problem on our generation and to the next generations(possibly the worst cases). With global warming, comes with different types of calamities such as change of different climates, heating of the Earth and also pollution, not just air but all types of it. I think this would be a hard time fixing this problem. Since this problem was from the beginning of advancement in technology and we need that type of advancement to survive. Unless we find something to fix the weakened ozone. 




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September 18, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
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We could all work together for several decades to fix climate change. Then one slightly nasty volcano would disrupt all our work, and then some.

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September 18, 2019, 08:54:46 PM
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The amount of wrong information in this thread can be determined by comparison with established and peer reviewed science.

It is well in the > 90% of assertions.

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The question is, will people keep on supporting Bernie when it starts taking their lives? But that is exactly what he wants to do in part, as a method to stop global warming... take the lives of as many as possible, just to reduce the population he thinks is causing global warming.

If he asks you or your kids to die, tell him to start with himself.


There’s no more denying it: Bernie Sanders wants to EXTERMINATE people to stop climate change



The other day, the train wreck of Democrats vying for the White House in 2020 participated in a seven-hour “town hall” event hosted by CNN during which they were asked important questions such as, will you ban meat in order to save the planet?, and will you support mass genocide to stop global warming?, to which Bernie Sanders responded to the latter question with an affirmative yes!

Okay, so the question wasn’t posed exactly like that. But in so many words, Beloved Bernie indicated that he’s fully onboard with exterminating masses of humans, including through abortion, as part of his plan to tackle the problem of “human population growth.” To Bernie, killing off unborn babies, including those pesky black ones, is great for “empowering women” and “educating everyone on the need to curb population growth.”

“The answer is yes,” Bernie stated when asked questions including everything aforementioned in quotes about implementing a global policy of population control. “Women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions,” he added, referring to the leftist sacrament of abortion.

Bernie says that, yes, he is “courageous enough” to talk about the “need” for massive population reduction around the world “to address the climate catastrophe” that he and his climate lunatic followers believe is manifesting all around us in the form of hot summer days and routine Atlantic hurricanes.


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September 21, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
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that is the most fucked up writer I have ever seen.      It really takes a special kind of talent to convert "access to abortion" into "genocide" .
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September 21, 2019, 05:17:27 PM
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The ices are melting, there are a lot of proof about that. When ices melt, all this water warms up the ocean. As you know, oceans are Earths cooling system, it distributes the heat with its currents and spreads around the globe.
If the heat in oceans increases, there may be no current to distribute the heat at all. If that happens, we will suffer by a lot...
+The hurricanes will become and are becoming more and more frequent and stronger.
+Sea level is rising, taking the land back. Almost all cities are located near rivers and oceans due to transportation benefits. They will be flooded.
+Extreme summers and winters. Global warming isn't about sea level rise, it means epically hot summers and extremely cold winters.

I remember in my childhood that winters were snowy and summers were mild. Right now, we have snowless cold cold winters and in summer there is extreme heat (never ever I remember that there would be 40 celsius in summer..)

So yes, the global warming is real and a very serious deal. We should think about planet we live on, not about profit. Right now we can quite easily move to renewable energy and quit burning fuel, but the history is repeating. The French monarch Liudvik XIV once said: "Après moi, le déluge" ("After me, the flood"). . We should think more about the future generations and not about ourselves right now  Smiley

Global warming itself might be real but is it man made? That's the problem here, after investigating quite a bit, I haven't actually found convincing evidence.

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September 21, 2019, 06:22:34 PM
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that is the most fucked up writer I have ever seen.      It really takes a special kind of talent to convert "access to abortion" into "genocide" .

You only think like that because you missed this https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-09-20-sanders-sanger-agree-black-people-should-be-aborted.html.

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September 21, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
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Man has accelerated a natural process of climate change. The issue is not climate change itself. The point is that we are accelerating and this could lead to life on Earth not being able to adapt quickly enough.

The normal pace of climate change is geological weather, ages, something on the scale of millions of years, we are causing significant climate changes in less than two hundred years ...

Example of reading on the topic: https://time.com/5680432/climate-change-history-carbon/

The ices are melting, there are a lot of proof about that. When ices melt, all this water warms up the ocean. As you know, oceans are Earths cooling system, it distributes the heat with its currents and spreads around the globe.
If the heat in oceans increases, there may be no current to distribute the heat at all. If that happens, we will suffer by a lot...
+The hurricanes will become and are becoming more and more frequent and stronger.
+Sea level is rising, taking the land back. Almost all cities are located near rivers and oceans due to transportation benefits. They will be flooded.
+Extreme summers and winters. Global warming isn't about sea level rise, it means epically hot summers and extremely cold winters.

I remember in my childhood that winters were snowy and summers were mild. Right now, we have snowless cold cold winters and in summer there is extreme heat (never ever I remember that there would be 40 celsius in summer..)

So yes, the global warming is real and a very serious deal. We should think about planet we live on, not about profit. Right now we can quite easily move to renewable energy and quit burning fuel, but the history is repeating. The French monarch Liudvik XIV once said: "Après moi, le déluge" ("After me, the flood"). . We should think more about the future generations and not about ourselves right now  Smiley

Global warming itself might be real but is it man made? That's the problem here, after investigating quite a bit, I haven't actually found convincing evidence.
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September 21, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
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Man has accelerated a natural process of climate change. The issue is not climate change itself. The point is that we are accelerating and this could lead to life on Earth not being able to adapt quickly enough.

The normal pace of climate change is geological weather, ages, something on the scale of millions of years, we are causing significant climate changes in less than two hundred years ...

Example of reading on the topic: https://time.com/5680432/climate-change-history-carbon/

The ices are melting, there are a lot of proof about that. When ices melt, all this water warms up the ocean. As you know, oceans are Earths cooling system, it distributes the heat with its currents and spreads around the globe.
If the heat in oceans increases, there may be no current to distribute the heat at all. If that happens, we will suffer by a lot...
+The hurricanes will become and are becoming more and more frequent and stronger.
+Sea level is rising, taking the land back. Almost all cities are located near rivers and oceans due to transportation benefits. They will be flooded.
+Extreme summers and winters. Global warming isn't about sea level rise, it means epically hot summers and extremely cold winters.

I remember in my childhood that winters were snowy and summers were mild. Right now, we have snowless cold cold winters and in summer there is extreme heat (never ever I remember that there would be 40 celsius in summer..)

So yes, the global warming is real and a very serious deal. We should think about planet we live on, not about profit. Right now we can quite easily move to renewable energy and quit burning fuel, but the history is repeating. The French monarch Liudvik XIV once said: "Après moi, le déluge" ("After me, the flood"). . We should think more about the future generations and not about ourselves right now  Smiley

Global warming itself might be real but is it man made? That's the problem here, after investigating quite a bit, I haven't actually found convincing evidence.

''But even though 99% of climate scientists recognize what is happening, it can still be difficult to grasp something of such magnitude.'' Stopped reading at that. It was proven the 97-99% of scientists agreeing to that is a hoax.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/

So yeah, where is the evidence?

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September 21, 2019, 09:36:00 PM
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Yes it is real. We are destroying this planet.
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