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September 26, 2013, 04:49:14 PM
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Im looking for a secure way to communicate with long distance friends and colleagues. What are my options these days? Are there secure VOIPs chat channels or something compared to pgp (something less tiresome) ?

Standard email. Seriously. Nobody cares what you're saying. Not even, you know...
WRONG.

Here is something useful: http://www.prism-break.org/

So? Please tell me why I should care that my recommendation of a film to a friend resides as data on a harddrive in a basement in the middle of the desert, where upon nobody will ever read it.
Are you trolling? This thread is about secure ways, not about unsecure ways  Undecided No one cares about your film, but if you have to fight against industrial espionage then you need a secure way to communicate

No, I am not trolling. If you're involved in work in a high profile business, then secure communication matters. But is that the case for those here seeking secure communication? I'd be curious to hear the motivations.
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September 26, 2013, 05:32:54 PM
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Im looking for a secure way to communicate with long distance friends and colleagues. What are my options these days? Are there secure VOIPs chat channels or something compared to pgp (something less tiresome) ?

Standard email. Seriously. Nobody cares what you're saying. Not even, you know...
WRONG.

Here is something useful: http://www.prism-break.org/

So? Please tell me why I should care that my recommendation of a film to a friend resides as data on a harddrive in a basement in the middle of the desert, where upon nobody will ever read it.
Are you trolling? This thread is about secure ways, not about unsecure ways  Undecided No one cares about your film, but if you have to fight against industrial espionage then you need a secure way to communicate

No, I am not trolling. If you're involved in work in a high profile business, then secure communication matters. But is that the case for those here seeking secure communication? I'd be curious to hear the motivations.

We are chatting about several new start up business ideas and looking to be more secure about it. Not exactly high profile but still not something we want to be snooped on.
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! Btw the pigeon thing is funny but it is something I have been talking about for about 2 years. I live in the stick and I would be cool to have a few friends with flocks to send messages back and forth.
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September 26, 2013, 05:39:15 PM
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I like the encrypted pigeon idea. Unfortunately, the NSA has already developed a 12Ga. packet sniffer.  Undecided


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September 26, 2013, 05:41:15 PM
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Im looking for a secure way to communicate with long distance friends and colleagues. What are my options these days? Are there secure VOIPs chat channels or something compared to pgp (something less tiresome) ?

Standard email. Seriously. Nobody cares what you're saying. Not even, you know...
WRONG.

Here is something useful: http://www.prism-break.org/

So? Please tell me why I should care that my recommendation of a film to a friend resides as data on a harddrive in a basement in the middle of the desert, where upon nobody will ever read it.
Are you trolling? This thread is about secure ways, not about unsecure ways  Undecided No one cares about your film, but if you have to fight against industrial espionage then you need a secure way to communicate

No, I am not trolling. If you're involved in work in a high profile business, then secure communication matters. But is that the case for those here seeking secure communication? I'd be curious to hear the motivations.

So, if someone isn't involved in "high profile business" privacy doesn't matter?

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September 26, 2013, 06:21:04 PM
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Im looking for a secure way to communicate with long distance friends and colleagues. What are my options these days? Are there secure VOIPs chat channels or something compared to pgp (something less tiresome) ?

Standard email. Seriously. Nobody cares what you're saying. Not even, you know...
WRONG.

Here is something useful: http://www.prism-break.org/

So? Please tell me why I should care that my recommendation of a film to a friend resides as data on a harddrive in a basement in the middle of the desert, where upon nobody will ever read it.
Are you trolling? This thread is about secure ways, not about unsecure ways  Undecided No one cares about your film, but if you have to fight against industrial espionage then you need a secure way to communicate

No, I am not trolling. If you're involved in work in a high profile business, then secure communication matters. But is that the case for those here seeking secure communication? I'd be curious to hear the motivations.

So, if someone isn't involved in "high profile business" privacy doesn't matter?

Of course privacy matters. Have I indicated that it doesn't, or provided any methods that don't provide privacy if you're not a high profile business? By the way, don't you have a film to watch?
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September 26, 2013, 06:29:55 PM
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Im looking at your profile here at NSA HQ and because i dont like your views, i will disclose that you masturbate way too much to your wife, you also smoked some weed when you were young, are overweight and have back problems and this is going straight to your employer, who will have to pay a fortune in insurance in the future.
Good luck with your new life.
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September 26, 2013, 06:41:28 PM
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September 26, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
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2 way encryption carrier pigeons.

How many pigeons do you need to actually make this work? You need pigeons to send key exchange prior to sending the message. Also pigeons to proof of receive the message. you might need at least 12 pigeons to make this work. Also you need to be able to check if the pigeons have been compromise, such as pigeons from another source which pretend to me the sender or receiver. Also this will be seasonal, you will not be able to transfer any messages during the pigeon hunting season.  Grin

You forgot about the pigeons that check if the receiver is ready to receive. Cheesy

Exactly, even though it could be a good method for communication. But damn you will need lots of pigeons to send one message.  Cheesy

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September 26, 2013, 06:48:30 PM
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Im looking at your profile here at NSA HQ and because i dont like your views, i will disclose that you masturbate way too much to your wife, you also smoked some weed when you were young, are overweight and have back problems and this is going straight to your employer, who will have to pay a fortune in insurance in the future.
Good luck with your new life.

Employer? Thats laughable. Grin I work for no one cali has been good to me bud
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September 26, 2013, 06:49:57 PM
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Use CB or Ham Radio
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September 26, 2013, 06:54:03 PM
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U.S. Mail. Old school technology with old school legal protection.  Cool
Govt tracks and maintains records of every parcel, its origin and destination.
True. But reading your mail is harder for the gov than say Internet traffic. The laws regarding mail are from a time when we had more protection from spying. I think it is still true that a letter is much more secure than an email. Similar to the difference between tapping a phone line vs. an Internet connection.  But who knows what the government is up to now. Roll Eyes

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September 26, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
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2 way encryption carrier pigeons.

How many pigeons do you need to actually make this work? You need pigeons to send key exchange prior to sending the message. Also pigeons to proof of receive the message. you might need at least 12 pigeons to make this work. Also you need to be able to check if the pigeons have been compromise, such as pigeons from another source which pretend to me the sender or receiver. Also this will be seasonal, you will not be able to transfer any messages during the pigeon hunting season.  Grin

You forgot about the pigeons that check if the receiver is ready to receive. Cheesy

Exactly, even though it could be a good method for communication. But damn you will need lots of pigeons to send one message.  Cheesy

Well the pigeons only fly one way, back to their cope. So you would have to exchange birds with the person you want to talk to. They would receive there birds back with messages from you and visa verse. Getting a phantom bird wont happen. As far as a key you would just make one with your partner prior to sending birds. We where thinking of doing this as more of a hobbie/shtf thing. You can also eat the birds and eggs unlike chickens doves mature in 9 weeks. You could also race from long distances. Hunting season would be a challenge though...
Im guessing a decent flock would be adound 30-90 birds.
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September 26, 2013, 07:03:50 PM
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Here is something useful: http://www.prism-break.org/

The OS is just one layer. Switching to Linux is meaningless if you continue to use Facebook, Gmail, Yahoo, or really, ANY email or communications product that's not under your control (ie, any webmail product, any POP/IMAP mail account for which you don't directly own and manage the physical server (as opposed to running a virtualized instance elsewhere).

There is so much more at play here, that just blindly adopting Linux. It requires a rethinking of how you use the web to communicate and information.


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September 26, 2013, 07:52:09 PM
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Use CB or Ham Radio
You forgot about encryption and unless the law is different than in Canada, it requires a special license to do so on radio wave.
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September 26, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
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So, if someone isn't involved in "high profile business" privacy doesn't matter?

Of course privacy matters. Have I indicated that it doesn't, or provided any methods that don't provide privacy if you're not a high profile business? By the way, don't you have a film to watch?

Haha, good point, and a long one. Smiley

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September 26, 2013, 08:19:38 PM
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So, if someone isn't involved in "high profile business" privacy doesn't matter?

Of course privacy matters. Have I indicated that it doesn't, or provided any methods that don't provide privacy if you're not a high profile business? By the way, don't you have a film to watch?

Haha, good point, and a long one. Smiley

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September 26, 2013, 08:31:19 PM
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September 27, 2013, 08:21:12 PM
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Why communicate?
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