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September 26, 2013, 01:01:04 PM
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It has been interesting and amusing reading of late with all the allegations and ddos attacks occurring at present in relation to bitcoin casinos.

People has been complaining and making allegations against bitcoin casinos for scamming and cheating and being unfair for ages and always get shot down with ‘where’s your proof’, ‘you’re just a sore loser’, ‘it’s gambling, of course you will lose’ etc etc.

Now these same casinos are the ones making allegations of unfair and unethical behavior of others. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. Just because a man can rape a woman, doesn’t mean he should. Just because an adult can abuse a child, doesn’t mean they should. Just because you can set up a bitcoin casino, doesn’t mean you should.

WHAT THE FCUK guys?? Do you really think you are an ethical, fair, and esteemed person or member of the bitcoin community?

Get your head out of the clouds you greedy and evil people.

Ask yourself these questions:
1.   Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling;
2.   Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits;
3.   Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities;
4.   Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and
5.   If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive?

Has any of the above even ever entered your small brains? Gambling in society is strictly and heavily regulated. It is as such for very specific reasons. If you want to operate in an unregulated environment, accept that you will be shot down at any opportunity that others get. Stop all your whining and crying about it you pathetic scum.

All you see is dollar signs. You don’t care one bit about the damage gambling does to people, their families, and society at large. Is making an easy profit the only part you care to take in all of this.

You guys are the new wild wild west, dog eat dog. So what the fcuk are you all complaining about? You are running illegal businesses. You are taking advantage of people. You are allowing people to use your service when they shouldn’t.

You are just gang leaders, and your ‘investors’ the gang members. You are all too blinded by the perceived easy profit to see the damage you are doing. Too busy running your drugs and protecting your territory to realize that drug running is illegal as well as a target for other drug pushers.

And guess what - surprise surprise, when one gang sees easy money being made by another gang, what do you think will happen? How long did you think the ‘party’ would last?

You all have targets on your heads. Don’t be so blinded that you can’t see that fact. You think you are anonymous. Well there are other Anonymous people out there that will take you down. In whatever form that will eventually take. Best to take your stolen money and run now.

GOOD v evil. YOU evil scum will LOSE.

Just my humble thoughts  Smiley
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Ask yourself these questions:
1.   Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling;
2.   Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits;
3.   Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities;
4.   Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and
5.   If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive?


It would have been nice if you asked in a more professional manner, but I'll respond to your questions.

1. No. Should a paint salesman provide instructions on how not to eat paint?
2. Yes
3. Have already donated a considerable amount to both charity and other btc project development, will donate more in the future.
4. Yes
5. I have a feeling Satoshi's opinion is favorable

The ability of a person to make a wager on a future event is not unethical. Many find it fun. The stigma attached to gambling is generally related to puritan religious nonsense, which posits that some activities are "vices" and are wrong. If you hold that opinion, don't hang out in the gambling sub-forum. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing.

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Ask yourself these questions:
1.   Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling;
2.   Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits;
3.   Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities;
4.   Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and
5.   If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive?


It would have been nice if you asked in a more professional manner, but I'll respond to your questions.

1. No. Should a paint salesman provide instructions on how not to eat paint?
2. Yes
3. Have already donated a considerable amount to both charity and other btc project development, will donate more in the future.
4. Yes
5. I have a feeling Satoshi's opinion is favorable

The ability of a person to make a wager on a future event is not unethical. Many find it fun. The stigma attached to gambling is generally related to puritan religious nonsense, which posits that some activities are "vices" and are wrong. If you hold that opinion, don't hang out in the gambling sub-forum. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing.

Actually , in the EU we have those warnings on toxic products (including paint) , do not eat ,do not spray into the eyes , etc . Cheesy

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Actually , in the EU we have those warnings on toxic products (including paint) , do not eat ,do not spray into the eyes , etc . Cheesy

True, okay let me clarify.... it is generally good to warn people of things that may be harmful (especially if it's not obvious). On SD's new site, there will be a warning about responsible gambling. However, I believe there is little virtue in nanny-ism, in assuming that users and customers are all children, and must be coddled and protected from themselves. Most adults are adults, and ought to be treated with respect, professionalism, honesty, and courtesy. Treat people like dependent children, and you'll end up with a bunch of dependent children.

The recent complaints against Betcoin are because they are not acting in an honest or professional manner. Instead of running to the government and using coercive force to try to stop them, instead we are voicing our concerns to the community - concerns that are equally valid regardless of the industry.

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September 26, 2013, 01:57:24 PM
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There is a section on responsible gambling in the Just-Dice FAQ. I am sure there are other sites which have similar info.
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September 26, 2013, 03:17:44 PM
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September 26, 2013, 03:21:12 PM
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   proof >>


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   proof >>


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September 26, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.
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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

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September 26, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
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How much did you lose?

It has been interesting and amusing reading of late with all the allegations and ddos attacks occurring at present in relation to bitcoin casinos.

People has been complaining and making allegations against bitcoin casinos for scamming and cheating and being unfair for ages and always get shot down with ‘where’s your proof’, ‘you’re just a sore loser’, ‘it’s gambling, of course you will lose’ etc etc.

Now these same casinos are the ones making allegations of unfair and unethical behavior of others. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. Just because a man can rape a woman, doesn’t mean he should. Just because an adult can abuse a child, doesn’t mean they should. Just because you can set up a bitcoin casino, doesn’t mean you should.

WHAT THE FCUK guys?? Do you really think you are an ethical, fair, and esteemed person or member of the bitcoin community?

Get your head out of the clouds you greedy and evil people.

Ask yourself these questions:
1.   Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling;
2.   Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits;
3.   Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities;
4.   Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and
5.   If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive?

Has any of the above even ever entered your small brains? Gambling in society is strictly and heavily regulated. It is as such for very specific reasons. If you want to operate in an unregulated environment, accept that you will be shot down at any opportunity that others get. Stop all your whining and crying about it you pathetic scum.

All you see is dollar signs. You don’t care one bit about the damage gambling does to people, their families, and society at large. Is making an easy profit the only part you care to take in all of this.

You guys are the new wild wild west, dog eat dog. So what the fcuk are you all complaining about? You are running illegal businesses. You are taking advantage of people. You are allowing people to use your service when they shouldn’t.

You are just gang leaders, and your ‘investors’ the gang members. You are all too blinded by the perceived easy profit to see the damage you are doing. Too busy running your drugs and protecting your territory to realize that drug running is illegal as well as a target for other drug pushers.

And guess what - surprise surprise, when one gang sees easy money being made by another gang, what do you think will happen? How long did you think the ‘party’ would last?

You all have targets on your heads. Don’t be so blinded that you can’t see that fact. You think you are anonymous. Well there are other Anonymous people out there that will take you down. In whatever form that will eventually take. Best to take your stolen money and run now.

GOOD v evil. YOU evil scum will LOSE.

Just my humble thoughts  Smiley

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How much did you lose?

It has been interesting and amusing reading of late with all the allegations and ddos attacks occurring at present in relation to bitcoin casinos.

People has been complaining and making allegations against bitcoin casinos for scamming and cheating and being unfair for ages and always get shot down with ‘where’s your proof’, ‘you’re just a sore loser’, ‘it’s gambling, of course you will lose’ etc etc.

Now these same casinos are the ones making allegations of unfair and unethical behavior of others. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. Just because a man can rape a woman, doesn’t mean he should. Just because an adult can abuse a child, doesn’t mean they should. Just because you can set up a bitcoin casino, doesn’t mean you should.

WHAT THE FCUK guys?? Do you really think you are an ethical, fair, and esteemed person or member of the bitcoin community?

Get your head out of the clouds you greedy and evil people.

Ask yourself these questions:
1.   Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling;
2.   Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits;
3.   Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities;
4.   Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and
5.   If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive?

Has any of the above even ever entered your small brains? Gambling in society is strictly and heavily regulated. It is as such for very specific reasons. If you want to operate in an unregulated environment, accept that you will be shot down at any opportunity that others get. Stop all your whining and crying about it you pathetic scum.

All you see is dollar signs. You don’t care one bit about the damage gambling does to people, their families, and society at large. Is making an easy profit the only part you care to take in all of this.

You guys are the new wild wild west, dog eat dog. So what the fcuk are you all complaining about? You are running illegal businesses. You are taking advantage of people. You are allowing people to use your service when they shouldn’t.

You are just gang leaders, and your ‘investors’ the gang members. You are all too blinded by the perceived easy profit to see the damage you are doing. Too busy running your drugs and protecting your territory to realize that drug running is illegal as well as a target for other drug pushers.

And guess what - surprise surprise, when one gang sees easy money being made by another gang, what do you think will happen? How long did you think the ‘party’ would last?

You all have targets on your heads. Don’t be so blinded that you can’t see that fact. You think you are anonymous. Well there are other Anonymous people out there that will take you down. In whatever form that will eventually take. Best to take your stolen money and run now.

GOOD v evil. YOU evil scum will LOSE.

Just my humble thoughts  Smiley





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September 26, 2013, 04:58:24 PM
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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it.

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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it.

do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!!  Cool

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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it.

do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!!  Cool

Online gambling is legal.
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September 26, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
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Ask yourself these questions:
1.   Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling;


It would have been nice if you asked in a more professional manner, but I'll respond to your questions.

1. No. Should a paint salesman provide instructions on how not to eat paint?


The ability of a person to make a wager on a future event is not unethical. Many find it fun. The stigma attached to gambling is generally related to puritan religious nonsense, which posits that some activities are "vices" and are wrong. If you hold that opinion, don't hang out in the gambling sub-forum. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing.

This is really unethical, the compulsive gambling is a problem for many people and should be ways to autoban of a site, is the first rule to follow when you have a gambling license.
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September 26, 2013, 10:15:54 PM
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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it.

do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!!  Cool

Online gambling is legal.


Link? or in your opinion


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September 26, 2013, 11:59:58 PM
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