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September 27, 2013, 12:43:35 AM
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   proof >>


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107030524   planes111   11:15   0.00000556   2.00000   <49.50   97.09   -0.00000556
107030450   planes111   11:14   0.00000556   2.00000   <49.50   94.66   -0.00000556
107030283   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   63.04   -0.00000111
107030230   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   94.34   -0.00000111
107030175   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   68.34   -0.00000111
107030136   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   80.5   -0.00000111
107030092   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   87.13   -0.00000111
107030052   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   59.1   -0.00000111
107030013   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   86.98   -0.00000111
107029967   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   85.28   -0.00000111
107029928   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   75.19   -0.00000111
107029885   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   86.32   -0.00000111

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Not sure it proves anything, but Zaih seems to like it.




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107928172   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   87.63   -0.00000111
107928141   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   52.67   -0.00000111
107928098   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   69.71   -0.00000111
107928064   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   60.73   -0.00000111
107928029   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   57.07   -0.00000111
107927993   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   66.17   -0.00000111
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107927918   planes111   20:36   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   51.11   -0.00000111
107927774   planes111   20:36   0.00000033   2.00000   <49.50   88.3   -0.00000033
107927740   planes111   20:36   0.00000033   2.00000   <49.50   53.31   -0.00000033
107927702   planes111   20:35   0.00000033   2.00000   <49.50   77.51   -0.00000033
107927618   planes111   20:35   0.00000001   2.00000   <49.50   92.17   -0.00000001

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September 27, 2013, 12:56:53 AM
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   proof >>


planes111   11:15   0.00000556   2.00000   <49.50   99.19   -0.00000556
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107029885   planes111   11:14   0.00000111   2.00000   <49.50   86.32   -0.00000111

Marry me?

Not sure it proves anything, but Zaih seems to like it.




nigle please! >>


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I must be a complete newbie, because I have no idea dafuq we are all talking about here.

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September 27, 2013, 01:12:49 AM
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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it.

do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!!  Cool

Online gambling is legal.


Link? or in your opinion




To be fair, it's ambiguous in its current state. There are no federal laws directly against online gambling. States have worked to make it legal and some have passed laws allowing people to gamble online like New Jersey. Other states like New York are currently looking to make online gambling legal. While other states allow some forms of online gambling like horse racing and lottery, they either fully reject or have nothing concrete for slots, blackjack and sports gambling. I'm sure if you asked a government official if online gambling was legal in their state they probably couldn't give you a straight answer.

It's a classic gray area, but our government is notorious for that.
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September 27, 2013, 02:52:03 AM
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Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?


Wow.


It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior?

If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do.

Take your bull elsewhere.



online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo  Cool weeeeee

In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it.

do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!!  Cool

Online gambling is legal.


Link? or in your opinion




To be fair, it's ambiguous in its current state. There are no federal laws directly against online gambling. States have worked to make it legal and some have passed laws allowing people to gamble online like New Jersey. Other states like New York are currently looking to make online gambling legal. While other states allow some forms of online gambling like horse racing and lottery, they either fully reject or have nothing concrete for slots, blackjack and sports gambling. I'm sure if you asked a government official if online gambling was legal in their state they probably couldn't give you a straight answer.

It's a classic gray area, but our government is notorious for that.


regardless the reason is fraud ~ these bitcoin "dice" games are scams imho!

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September 27, 2013, 06:33:07 AM
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if bitcoins is not offically recogonized as a currency no taxes is needed Tongue
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if bitcoins is not offically recogonized as a currency no taxes is needed Tongue


 i recognise them as money, Winklevoss twins etc~you can buy shit with them!


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September 27, 2013, 07:00:03 AM
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does governments?.... No therefore no taxes or regulations can be placed
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does governments?.... No therefore no taxes or regulations can be placed

my team do! Wink we band together will tax all dice games with simple math LOL

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I'm going to start offering bitcoin gaming licenses. These will be GPG signed, as well as printed so you can post it in your office, as well as graphically signed so you can post a picture on your website.

Anyone who has a bitcoin gaming license from me will fall under by jurisdiction and authority.

Now, I'm still thinking what the fees will be, but all who apply before 31 Dec 2013 will get their licenses for free, will be considered charter members of Dabs Bitcoin Gaming Commission, and will retain their free license for a period of 10 years.

All members who apply from 01 Jan 2014 onwards will have to pay a non-refundable application and processing fee of 1 BTC per annum, renewable every year.

First time applicants are not automatically accepted.

Certain rules and regulations will apply that all members must adhere to, but common sense will prevail, and will be similar to other internationally issued gaming licenses.

Ok, I'm going to think of more things later on, but that's it for now.

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I'm going to start offering bitcoin gaming licenses. These will be GPG signed, as well as printed so you can post it in your office, as well as graphically signed so you can post a picture on your website.

Anyone who has a bitcoin gaming license from me will fall under by jurisdiction and authority.

Now, I'm still thinking what the fees will be, but all who apply before 31 Dec 2013 will get their licenses for free, will be considered charter members of Dabs Bitcoin Gaming Commission, and will retain their free license for a period of 10 years.

All members who apply from 01 Jan 2014 onwards will have to pay a non-refundable application and processing fee of 1 BTC per annum, renewable every year.

First time applicants are not automatically accepted.

Certain rules and regulations will apply that all members must adhere to, but common sense will prevail, and will be similar to other internationally issued gaming licenses.

Ok, I'm going to think of more things later on, but that's it for now.


what authority do you have? LOL

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My own. What else do I need? I am decentralized.

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My own. What else do I need? I am decentralized.


why i'm "the man" because i say so!  Grin LOL = buy my chit...<^@u@^>...

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all the major sites are provably fair using the blockchain.
and as others have mentioned its legal in most countries

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all the major sites are provably fair using the blockchain.
and as others have mentioned its legal in most countries

finally read the OP in its entirety, i'm amazed why there are so many "yes men" when it comes to these fraudulent online gambling sites. I find it shocking they log ip addresses to track users and use this info to taylor the odds!  Roll Eyes

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The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already.

And you're advertising one of them in your signature.

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THIS IS P|2OOF OF EXACTLY WHAT I'M RANTING ABOUT!!!! WTF!!! Undecided Undecided====>

 



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The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already.

And you're advertising one of them in your signature.

bullshit! my guess is they are working with the authorities to target laundrymats!!!  Cool

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bullshit! my guess is they are working with the authorities to target laundrymats!!!  Cool

Your guess is as good as mine. Your proof however, is not proof.

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October 24, 2013, 12:12:27 PM
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bullshit! my guess is they are working with the authorities to target laundrymats!!!  Cool

Your guess is as good as mine. Your proof however, is not proof.


i'm convinced these trap game sites are on the take, I'd expect more community spirit out of you guys, i'm an idealist!  Roll Eyes

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October 25, 2013, 08:25:28 AM
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i'm convinced these trap game sites are on the take, I'd expect more community spirit out of you guys, i'm an idealist!  Roll Eyes
What convinces you? Because, I'm also an idealist and I'm all with the community and then some. But I also need to see verifiable proof, otherwise it's just all anecdotal or hearsay.

IANAL, but it's just not right to condemn an innocent man to death for a crime he did not commit. What if we're wrong? Proof is needed. That's the whole point of being provably fair.

These dice games are fair to players at least. Only investors could potentially have problems. The little article by some dude about injecting html or java partials just doesn't make sense even to me, although I'm usually a fail at understanding probabilities and math.

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