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July 20, 2011, 07:41:34 PM
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Refuse to use bitcoin on any version of windows.

Yes, keep telling people that and you'll surely win over the mainstream market!

Windows users are prevalent, which is a fact that has nothing to do with me.

then what were you trying to get by not using the bitcoin client on windows.

If you use an application that deals with money, on Windows, expect to get robbed.

I think that's what he's getting at, and I agree.
You and him are both WRONG. If you're running a genuine version of Windows 7, with all Windows updates installed and current, and a strong user password with some good anti virus (I recommend Norton or Kaspersky) you will be fine.

It's not Bitcoins fault that there are people on Windows Xp bundled with Avast thinking that they are safe...

Did anything in there imply it was Bitcoin's fault?  No.

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July 20, 2011, 11:03:09 PM
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Refuse to use bitcoin on any version of windows.

Yes, keep telling people that and you'll surely win over the mainstream market!

Windows users are prevalent, which is a fact that has nothing to do with me.

then what were you trying to get by not using the bitcoin client on windows.

If you use an application that deals with money, on Windows, expect to get robbed.

I think that's what he's getting at, and I agree.
You and him are both WRONG. If you're running a genuine version of Windows 7, with all Windows updates installed and current, and a strong user password with some good anti virus (I recommend Norton or Kaspersky) you will be fine.

It's not Bitcoins fault that there are people on Windows Xp bundled with Avast thinking that they are safe...

Did anything in there imply it was Bitcoin's fault?  No.
You're implying that anyone who's using Windows and Bitcoin together is somehow getting "robbed ".

"Windows 7's infection rates five times lower than Windows XP"

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=infection+rate+windows+7&pbx=1&oq=infection+rate+windows+7&aq=f&aqi=g-b1&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2529l7823l0l8626l24l17l0l0l0l0l385l4261l0.3.9.5l17&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=804c136e9e03bc4a&biw=1320&bih=706



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July 20, 2011, 11:21:12 PM
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Refuse to use bitcoin on any version of windows.

Yes, keep telling people that and you'll surely win over the mainstream market!

Windows users are prevalent, which is a fact that has nothing to do with me.

then what were you trying to get by not using the bitcoin client on windows.

If you use an application that deals with money, on Windows, expect to get robbed.

I think that's what he's getting at, and I agree.
You and him are both WRONG. If you're running a genuine version of Windows 7, with all Windows updates installed and current, and a strong user password with some good anti virus (I recommend Norton or Kaspersky) you will be fine.

It's not Bitcoins fault that there are people on Windows Xp bundled with Avast thinking that they are safe...

Did anything in there imply it was Bitcoin's fault?  No.
You're implying that anyone who's using Windows and Bitcoin together is somehow getting "robbed ".

"Windows 7's infection rates five times lower than Windows XP"

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=infection+rate+windows+7&pbx=1&oq=infection+rate+windows+7&aq=f&aqi=g-b1&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2529l7823l0l8626l24l17l0l0l0l0l385l4261l0.3.9.5l17&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=804c136e9e03bc4a&biw=1320&bih=706



First result: "Windows 7's malware infection rate climbs, XP's falls - Computerworld", well done

Also the sentence "Windows 7's infection rates five times lower than Windows XP" is just useless. If all XP computers are infected, thus 20% of 7 computers are infected, what a good stat!
And geek-trader was talking about all windows, not just 7

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July 20, 2011, 11:28:42 PM
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is it really that hard to understand that windows vista/7 is just a more secure piece of software compared to xp? with UAC, as long as you use it right, and don't let every program run, you should easily be able to stop most threats. on xp this simply did not exist and programs would run almost at will if they got any kind of foothold on the system. its pointless to throw stats out for infections because there are millions of different threats, and many types of threats are polymorphic and are never the same, although this still only counts as 1 threat and only defeats some types of security. again, you cant make stats, since its very difficult to even try to do the stats in the first place. the makers of malware make it this way, they will only try to infect 1 time per ip, they can try to detect VMs and sandboxing, and can detect attempts to monitor how botnets are working. malware is literally at the cutting edge of software design, you simply can not just throw stats out.

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July 20, 2011, 11:30:02 PM
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In case any project developers are reading this, I'll just interject my use case:

I run my main client on an always up and very low powered machine with no video hardware.  I run only bitcoind (and like the current interface just fine.)  When I wish to perform a transaction, I log on to this machine from wherever I am and from whatever platform I happen to be using.

Although my setup is reasonably well hardened, I happen to be pretty careful to not store more BTC than I need for immediate work in the wallet which is 'live'.  This is, in part, because I have tried to allow port 8333 traffic in in order to assist in 'pulling the wagon' and I do not fully understand nor track the bitcoin source tree.  My main BTC stash(es) are tucked away in other places.

I don't anticipate a high percentage of users operating in the manner I do, but I dearly hope that there remains an official low overhead and reasonably efficient client and basic UI.

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July 21, 2011, 06:03:13 PM
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1. the wallet file is still naked
2. directly use another wallet is impossible
3. and countless other shortcomings...

sigh.
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