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[Danydee]

Is this for everyone including new created accounts? I see that you have a variety of games in your website, are you planning to expand it more maybe using third party providers to have some live games and other table games so people would be more interested in your gambling site.

Yes, everyone can claim it. But also it limited for everyone to 1 claim per a 14 days period..
 
They yet introduced games from another providers but the main concept of the site is their provably fair games.
 
There is also a free 6/49 lotto that roll every 12 hours.

[wildan88]

Is this for everyone including new created accounts? I see that you have a variety of games in your website, are you planning to expand it more maybe using third party providers to have some live games and other table games so people would be more interested in your gambling site.

Yes, everyone can claim it. But also it limited for everyone to 1 claim per a 14 days period..
 
They yet introduced games from another providers but the main concept of the site is their provably fair games.
 
There is also a free 6/49 lotto that roll every 12 hours.

So those lotto are provably fair? I wasn't aware of that I thought it was also from other service that provides gambling games. I haven't tested out the website yet does anyone have any experience here I will consider testing it with few bitcoins I hope I would be able to win some, I will also try to use the 8bet give.

[Danydee]

So those lotto are provably fair?

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The 8Bet Lottery results are generated as follows:

1.  At the start of the game (before any tickets are sold) a server seed is randomly generated by the server.

2. This server seed is then hashed using SHA256 and the seed hash is then published on the game for all to see. Because this hash is public from the start of the game, the original random server seed can not be modified in any way.

3. Players then buy tickets for the game until the time of the draw.

4. At the time of the draw, ticket buys are closed and the game waits for the next block to be mined on the Bitcoin blockchain. When this happens, the game takes the block hash from this next block.

5. The server seed and the block hash are then joined together and this concatenated server seed + block hash is hashed using SHA256. This hash is then used as the RNG seed for the random number generator.

6. The lottery results (6 lottery numbers) are then randomly generated by the well-known Mersenne Twister random number generator.

Using this method, anyone can follow the process through,  even using their own code to confirm that the results were indeed fair. And use of the Bitcoin blockchain as part of the RNG seed ensures that not even those who have access to 8Bet source code or servers could influence the result in any way – a truly independent and fair result every time.

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[Saint-loup]

So those lotto are provably fair?

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8Bet’s provably fair model is based on the Bitcoin blockchain, and the entire process of drawing results is open and transparent, with open-source code that anyone can view and follow step by step to confirm that the results were entirely independent, random, and impossible to influence by any party.

The 8Bet Lottery results are generated as follows:

1.  At the start of the game (before any tickets are sold) a server seed is randomly generated by the server.

2. This server seed is then hashed using SHA256 and the seed hash is then published on the game for all to see. Because this hash is public from the start of the game, the original random server seed can not be modified in any way.

3. Players then buy tickets for the game until the time of the draw.

4. At the time of the draw, ticket buys are closed and the game waits for the next block to be mined on the Bitcoin blockchain. When this happens, the game takes the block hash from this next block.

5. The server seed and the block hash are then joined together and this concatenated server seed + block hash is hashed using SHA256. This hash is then used as the RNG seed for the random number generator.

6. The lottery results (6 lottery numbers) are then randomly generated by the well-known Mersenne Twister random number generator.

Using this method, anyone can follow the process through,  even using their own code to confirm that the results were indeed fair. And use of the Bitcoin blockchain as part of the RNG seed ensures that not even those who have access to 8Bet source code or servers could influence the result in any way – a truly independent and fair result every time.

Thank you but does anyone know how we could check that the winning numbers are the real ones generated by the RNG?
It would be more provably fair to take directly those 6 numbers from the SHA256 hash. Everybody would be able to check it easily then.

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[Danydee]

Looks, good, fast registration, instatnt withdrawal without delays.

 But as Saint-loup stated, they claim that all the games issued by them are provably fair, but they does not provide any means of verification, what is should be mandatory for the transparency !  

[Chikito]

Thank you but does anyone know how we could check that the winning numbers are the real ones generated by the RNG?
It would be more provably fair to take directly those 6 numbers from the SHA256 hash. Everybody would be able to check it easily then.

Maybe impossible, that seems to be a company secret for how they randomize the random number generator. but for the probably fair, should be open for everyone who wants to know.


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[Saint-loup]

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 But as Saint-loup stated, they claim that all the games issued by them are provably fair, but they does not provide any means of verification, what is should be mandatory for the transparency !  

Moreover they claim to have an "open-source code" but I haven't been able to find any link toward this code anywhere.   Does anyone know where this open-source code is available please?
Again I don't understand why a RNG is darkly used to draw the numbers, it defeats the purpose of being a real provably fair game.

8Bet’s provably fair model is based on the Bitcoin blockchain, and the entire process of drawing results is open and transparent, with open-source code that anyone can view and follow step by step to confirm that the results were entirely independent, random, and impossible to influence by any party.

[Danydee]

Moreover they claim to have an "open-source code" but I haven't been able to find any link toward this code anywhere.   Does anyone know where this open-source code is available please?
Again I don't understand why a RNG is darkly used to draw the numbers, it defeats the purpose of being a real provably fair game.

8Bet’s provably fair model is based on the Bitcoin blockchain, and the entire process of drawing results is open and transparent, with open-source code that anyone can view and follow step by step to confirm that the results were entirely independent, random, and impossible to influence by any party.

 The "Mersenne Twister" algorithm is supposed generate numbers by déduction from the Seed (Server + Block hash) here, but as you said there's no either mention of which version or variation of the algorithm is used !

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